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  1. OrdinaryPhil's Avatar
    Yes.

    The design of the Lumia 830 and 930 are among the greatest phone designs... ever. There are no compromises. The physical device is every bit as important to me as the OS running on it. The Lumia 830 came within a hair's breadth of being the absolute perfect phone. The only thing that really bugged was the display being LCD and not AMOLED. If the screen had been AMOLED it would be absolute perfect device.

    The 930 was also close to perfect, but had a few misses as well. The CPU choice was poor and the phone tended to get warm in your hand - not as been as the Google Nexus devices, or the iPhones - but it got a little toasty and that speaks to poor engineering (both from Qualcomm and Nokia/MS). Apart from that, the styling was spot on. The rounded aluminum edges made a very attractive device, and it had a good weight to it - not heavy, but not a featherweight like the iPhones and Galaxies that eschew features and quality for the sake of shedding a few fractions of an ounce.

    The real reason I love my Lumia is that it just works. It does what I ask, when I ask, and I never have to fiddle with the damn thing. I've owned various android devives, and I've suffered through the iPhone experience - and both systems are nothing short of infuriating when it comes to doing simple tasks. I've owned the 930 since it debuted and it has never missed a beat. It syncs with my car flawlessly, has higher quality audio than any of its competitors, has a wonderful camera for capturing details when I need it, and the OS is stable as can be. I've never had to reset for anything other than a major OS update.

    Android and iOS can play the 'app-gap' card 'till they run out of breath - but the reality of the situation is that most people don't download more than a small handful of apps. I myself have almost none. I can think of litterally ONE app that is missing from WP that I actually care about, and it's the most unimportant thing in my world. It's a silly game. If asked to suffer through lesser devices, and less stable operating systems just so I can play a silly game that feeds my personal info back to some server - I'd be a fool to chase it.

    WP is the more elegant choice - it's for users who are not so insecure that they have to keep up with the Jones's. I don't feel the need to compete with how many apps (security risks) I can fill my device with. If you're a teenage girl in highschool who wears her jeans in such a way that the Abercrombie tag is visible - so you can 'fit in' - the iPhone is probably essential. If you're an intelligent adult with nothing to prove - Windows Phone is the only reasonable answer.
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    09-09-2015 07:50 AM
  2. MarkAllett's Avatar
    wow...one word, compared to a whole sentence without any proper grammar.
    Sure, but it was one word in a sentence of thirteen, it was still wrong and it featured in every post you made. Glad to see it fixed :-)
    Pieter Wolff likes this.
    09-09-2015 07:53 AM
  3. bsharpy's Avatar
    Just got a 1520. I plan on doing some universal development for Win10 so I got it to test on. Have been a long time Android user and the simple UI of 8.1 is a nice escape from the ever increasingly convoluted NIX style UI of Android. So far I really like the phone. The apps seem to be growing for the platform and I think with the Win 10 and the universal app api Microsoft is going to be the way to go in the future. Smart phones have gotten boring. Android is stagnating with a limited ability to expand its horizons beyond a phone or toy tablet and IOS with its typical Apple communism will be limited by its own proprietary nature. With Win 10 and its universal approach it has at least a foreseeable expandable future that Android and IOS at this point do not.
    09-09-2015 08:13 AM
  4. dougmor2000's Avatar
    No, my company's support for the platform is waning and as much as I like Windows phones, many custom apps that are created for my business are only for iOS and Android. They are going to be dropping support for Windows phonw.
    09-09-2015 08:34 AM
  5. Belushi Schweeft's Avatar
    My humble opinion, for what it's worth:

    The app gap/app envy is something consumers are fully aware of before they even look at a WP. They reviews might be wrong (I read a review for the 640XL that listed "No Crossy Road" as a reason not to buy one...even though Crossy Road is on WP) and that's a shame but many of the big hitters are not on WP and the arrival of Windows 10 has yet to bring those devs to the platform. If the latest figures are true and Windows 10 is now on 85 million machines, that's a whole lot of people Snapchat could connect with easily...but they haven't yet, like many.

    I think I'm lucky - I jumped over to WP from the iPhone when WP7 dropped and Apple's App Store was a mess and full of rubbish. I have got used to the platform's app availability and I rarely feel I'm missing out on much, plus I have a camera that is the envy of everyone who has seen a photo I have taken (Lumia 930). However...I would definitely make use of a NowTV app, or a BTSport App, or Skyplus, or one for my Bank...among others. As a former 1520 owner I am looking at the 950XL as the phone most likely to be my next, but if I'm going to stick with the platform I need to KNOW that something is being done to get not just the big names but the niche names onto WP too. We've heard much about the platform MS is building to help devs convert apps quickly; great...but if they don't, then what? MS need to do it for them as the smartphone war is all but over for the next few years at least and MS need 15% of the global market at least to be considered a genuine player.

    I have no doubts about the hardware and I've never had any grumbles about build quality, look and feel or any of the aesthetics; the guy next to me in my office saw a video clip on my phone and acknowledged that the display was amazing and the photos were unbelievable. However, when it comes to the "have you tried the ------------- app out yet" there's a good chance I have to say "no, it's not available yet."

    I like Windows 10, I hope that the phone version impresses as much but more than anything I hope that MS stops talking about apps coming to the platform and gets them, even if it has to do the donkey work itself; maybe create a new subsidiary whose sole purpose is to convert and licence apps that are missing from the platform, but take control of the situation. It may well be that in a year's time there are 250 million Windows 10 users and suddenly developers are flocking over, but yet again MS will be on the backfoot on launch day, admitting to journalists that, as with WP8 and WP8.1, the phone is great but the apps are not there to tempt Android users over.

    I'm undecided, where I was previously without doubt. I love using WP and I love my phone still being a top performer well over a year after its release, but if I can't use what my peers are using I'm at a disadvantage and that Samsung S6 does look pretty damned good. I fear that, yet again, MS will drop the ball on WP10 release day and tell us "we're still working with xxxxxxx to close the app gap" (which they've been saying for several years now) when they should be lining up the big app devs to launch the phone with a guarantee - "the top 100 downloaded apps of 2015 are on WP10 from launch day". That's what should happen and that would end the debate as to whether or not MS is in any way serious about WP or just throwing the dice once last time and hoping it'll work this time, which is not the way to treat an old or a new paying customer. I've been loyal...I don't think it's wrong to want that loyalty to be rewarded in some way.
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    09-09-2015 08:42 AM
  6. JasonSCarter's Avatar
    As much as I love the OS, I gave gotten burned by update blues from 2 out of the 3 phones I have owned. Flagship Lumia 900, obsolete few months after launch. Now, with my 830, ATT is holding back an update Microsoft promised at launch of the device. Its a pain. 920 was a solid phone though. I just cant see myself sticking with it sadly. And I am a Microsoft fan boy. There are still apps I want that I can't get, and the core Microsoft apps are now available on the other platforms.
    09-09-2015 08:47 AM
  7. Richard Toft's Avatar
    Definitely, Lumia 820 was a brilliant phone, Lumia 930 excellent, currently running windows 10 and I can't wait for continuum in fact I may buy another phone before my contract is out to get continuum.
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    09-09-2015 08:57 AM
  8. jomarr's Avatar
    Before I switched from iOS to WP I KNOW there is an App Gap. That's not my problem. My problem is those apps that Microsoft should be actually doing well are either being discontinued or are half assed garbage.

    This wasn't the situation in WP8/8.1.

    News, GREAT.
    Weather, GREAT.
    Food & Drink, discontinued, was a great app
    Health & Fitness, discontinued, was a great app --- I use this daily. DAILY.
    Groove, one of the worst apps I've ever used

    The problem here is not the app gap but the MS Apps that are beautiful now going away or the apps that were once usable are now completely non functional. I didn't care about the app gap but because of Groove I am missing the iOS player/Shuttle on Android/Music+Videos.

    Sucks because if only Microsoft fixes the app I would probably still stay. I've been waiting for a year and a half for a decent music player and all I got was basically toned down versions of M+V. Music + Videos was one of the apps that made me switch from iOS to WP. It's so gorgeous.

    I'm still a fan but I hope Microsoft is giving more attention to their mobile platform. I know W10 Desktop is their priority but it's a month before they announce their flagships and there are hundreds of bugs still waiting to be fixed in W10M. C'mon MS, I gave hundreds of feedback (50% for Groove).

    I'm fleeing to iOS (for a year, getting the 6s) but keeping my L1520 in case Microsoft was hit by a rock on the head.

    And to end my comment, here's Tyra summing up my emotions:
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    09-09-2015 09:05 AM
  9. HerrBag's Avatar
    Laura has the right of it.. I'm a remodeling contractor and get paid by check.. Being able to use the bank's app on my phone WAS great (BOA on Lumia 900)

    It and many other things have been sunsetted (I'm assuming) by MS to encourage upward migration. Its only served to enrage me and fuel me with a terrible resolve to move to Android
    09-09-2015 09:15 AM
  10. iamakii's Avatar
    Before I switched from iOS to WP I KNOW there is an App Gap. That's not my problem. My problem is those apps that Microsoft should be actually doing well are either being discontinued or are half assed garbage.

    This wasn't the situation in WP8/8.1.

    News, GREAT.
    Weather, GREAT.
    Food & Drink, discontinued, was a great app
    Health & Fitness, discontinued, was a great app --- I use this daily. DAILY.
    Groove, one of the worst apps I've ever used

    The problem here is not the app gap but the MS Apps that are beautiful now going away or the apps that were once usable are now completely non functional. I didn't care about the app gap but because of Groove I am missing the iOS player/Shuttle on Android/Music+Videos.

    Sucks because if only Microsoft fixes the app I would probably still stay. I've been waiting for a year and a half for a decent music player and all I got was basically toned down versions of M+V. Music + Videos was one of the apps that made me switch from iOS to WP. It's so gorgeous.

    I'm still a fan but I hope Microsoft is giving more attention to their mobile platform. I know W10 Desktop is their priority but it's a month before they announce their flagships and there are hundreds of bugs still waiting to be fixed in W10M. C'mon MS, I gave hundreds of feedback (50% for Groove).

    I'm fleeing to iOS (for a year, getting the 6s) but keeping my L1520 in case Microsoft was hit by a rock on the head.

    And to end my comment, here's Tyra summing up my emotions:
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/att...d=111929&stc=1
    Exactly my thoughts. It was fun at first. WP7 looked really different, cool, has its own personality. But look at how zombified WP10 is. And the app gap. Or the apps disintegrating and lagging behind competitors. I had enough. Five years was good enough.
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    09-09-2015 09:27 AM
  11. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    There isn't anything else that fits the bill in android world either in the sub 200 bracket.. Snapdragon 800 or better? No wonder hardware manufacturers are bleeding lol. Everyone wants Ferrari specs on Fiat money...sheesh!
    A G2 is as low as 180 USD, G3 is like 250 USD, Fire Phone is 140 USD, the HTC One M8 was pretty cheap as well but I don't pay attention to that... And of course the Xperia Z Ultra was a big bust that has hit 200 USD price point a couple of times.

    I realize that these are old model Androids but there is no old model Windows Phone that has really hit these price points. All the while, Microsoft is churning out "high end" devices that look like their last year's model along with last year's specs like the 930.
    09-09-2015 09:58 AM
  12. MrPhilicorda's Avatar
    I've been using (and defending) Windows Phone since WP7 days but now I'm closer than ever switching. This is partly because of the app situation, but also because I think MS is going into the wrong direction with the hardware. I got into Nokia because they were waaaay ahead of the competition with their camera tech. The designs of the phones was great too. Now? None of those things apply. The Lumia 950 looks cheap with its boring and unimaginative plastic shell and the camera is no better than the competition.

    I've been looking at some of the new Xperias for instance and they tick a lot of my boxes. Only thing holding me off is I'm not sure how compatible Android is with W10 PC's, Onedrive and such.
    09-09-2015 10:00 AM
  13. Pivotgeeks's Avatar
    Yes.. Hope app situation get better..
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    09-09-2015 10:08 AM
  14. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    As a phone, I'm very happy with my Lumia 640. I was annoyed though when they discontinued the Health & Fitness app! I just needed the step counter and this one did the job admirably. The replacement Health app doesn't seem to show it in realtime which is highly annoying. I have to sync it first for it to show the count. I can only assume this is part of Microsoft's attempt to push users towards their Band? I have not need of apps with feature creep, yet it seems it's apps that do simple things that are the hardest to find, unless someone can recommend a good step counter app, as all the ones I see in the app store have poor reviews and often only show metric at that.
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    09-09-2015 10:22 AM
  15. z33dev33l's Avatar
    In a heartbeat. I've got a Droid Turbo and a note 5 at the moment and I'm dying for either of the new Microsoft branded phones to hit Verizon.
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    09-09-2015 10:24 AM
  16. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    I've been looking at some of the new Xperias for instance and they tick a lot of my boxes. Only thing holding me off is I'm not sure how compatible Android is with W10 PC's, Onedrive and such.
    I also have an LG Optimus F3 on which I use Onedrive to backup my photos via Wifi. Works very well. I find Onedrive is much simpler to use than Google drive, plus of course it's cross platform.
    09-09-2015 10:25 AM
  17. WereRat's Avatar
    For me, after two years with a 925 and the wife using 521 and 635, I would say: let's see, but probably. W10 phones aren't out yet, so I really have no basis to decide for the future.

    Cortana is great (US version); I don't give a rat's 6 about the latest mobile game; and the important stuff (phone, camera, mail, work email, Office, Lync (aka Skype for Business)) for the phone as a tool are top-notch, so I've been happy with the WP phones to date.
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    09-09-2015 10:29 AM
  18. tedj101's Avatar
    I've been using (and defending) Windows Phone since WP7 days but now I'm closer than ever switching. This is partly because of the app situation, but also because I think MS is going into the wrong direction with the hardware. I got into Nokia because they were waaaay ahead of the competition with their camera tech. The designs of the phones was great too. Now? None of those things apply. The Lumia 950 looks cheap with its boring and unimaginative plastic shell and the camera is no better than the competition.

    I've been looking at some of the new Xperias for instance and they tick a lot of my boxes. Only thing holding me off is I'm not sure how compatible Android is with W10 PC's, Onedrive and such.
    One drive works flawlessly on my Android phone.

    <TED>
    09-09-2015 10:47 AM
  19. Willelmus's Avatar
    I jumped on the WP bandwagon with the 920. The phone was such a beauty I just couldn't bear seeing it in someone else's hands without wanting it for my own. At that point the app gap didn't bother me that much ( it still doesn't). I was fully aware of it but the smoothness of the UI, the integration between hubs and other parts of the OS made up for it, and some.

    Then they took out facebook messaging integration, touting that something else was coming but I had to wait until yesterday to actually see it happen. I bought the 1520 after that. Partly because I was still in love with the OS, partly because the 930 was unavailable at that time in my region (US) and, well, it is a beauty after all (still prefer the 930 though).

    Windows 10 mobile has potential a lot of it. They're fixing their vision of having hamburger menus everywhere, the OS for such an early build is remarkably stable and the integration with the windows ecosystem is great (I own a PC, and an XBOXone too so).

    And to be honest, I've been waiting for a new flagship phone for a while now. But this. I can understand the design language, but to me, this is a let-down. In my opinion, the two phone leaked are in no way close the beauty and class of the 930, 1520, 920 or 820. Problem is, I don't think android phones look that good either. The S6 is ok but just ok, Sony's phones are meh and HTC is stuck with a boring design. I like HTC sense though.

    So there I am. I might get another WP if the leaked phones look better in real. But to be honest, my wallet is up for grabs. I'll probably head into a phone shop and buy whatever I find pretty.
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    09-09-2015 11:09 AM
  20. Mohammed Bugedwala's Avatar
    Definitely, being a part of an evolving ecosystem is an experience, and nothing can beat the minimalistic yet superior UI design. As far as the apps are concerned, I have my hopes with Windows 10. But yes, I will stick around.
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    09-09-2015 11:29 AM
  21. libra89's Avatar
    A G2 is as low as 180 USD, G3 is like 250 USD, Fire Phone is 140 USD, the HTC One M8 was pretty cheap as well but I don't pay attention to that... And of course the Xperia Z Ultra was a big bust that has hit 200 USD price point a couple of times.

    I realize that these are old model Androids but there is no old model Windows Phone that has really hit these price points. All the while, Microsoft is churning out "high end" devices that look like their last year's model along with last year's specs like the 930.
    Good luck finding a Fire Phone to buy, Amazon has killed it altogether. The rest of the list makes sense though.
    09-09-2015 11:36 AM
  22. rollindice's Avatar
    Sure would
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    09-09-2015 12:05 PM
  23. rit89's Avatar
    NO, Resently i sold out my Nokia lumia 730. n finally switch to android with Samsung j7..main reason is Microsoft is not interested in cell phone market. WP10 IS TOO LATE SIMILAR LIKE WIN 7 TO WIN8.. AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE MICROSOFT AS BRAND NAME...PEOPLE DON'T LOOK OS THEY JUST LOOK "NOKIA"..MICROSOFT REPLACING NOKIA'S NAME FROM DEVICES IS BIG IMPACT ON BUYERS MIND. NOKIA WAS GIVING OWN FEATURES LIKE DOUBLE TAP TO WAKE,GLANCE, HERE LENS,DRIVE,MAP,LUMIA CAMERA WITH STYLISH LOOK AND QUALITY SMARTPHONE.
    09-09-2015 12:24 PM
  24. EspHack's Avatar
    yes, why? its the only option for me, and I don't rely on my phone as my main computer anyway, as soon as it fails me I just throw it somewhere and sit on my desk, besides, I cant stand android's mess or iOS dumbness
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    09-09-2015 12:28 PM
  25. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    NO, Resently i sold out my Nokia lumia 730. n finally switch to android with Samsung j7..main reason is Microsoft is not interested in cell phone market. WP10 IS TOO LATE SIMILAR LIKE WIN 7 TO WIN8.. AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE MICROSOFT AS BRAND NAME...PEOPLE DON'T LOOK OS THEY JUST LOOK "NOKIA"..MICROSOFT REPLACING NOKIA'S NAME FROM DEVICES IS BIG IMPACT ON BUYERS MIND. NOKIA WAS GIVING OWN FEATURES LIKE DOUBLE TAP TO WAKE,GLANCE, HERE LENS,DRIVE,MAP,LUMIA CAMERA WITH STYLISH LOOK AND QUALITY SMARTPHONE.
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    09-09-2015 01:23 PM
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