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  1. jeffoffline's Avatar
    Go "all in" with any platform - if you use Windows then use OneDrive, Outlook.com etc. If you go Android, use Google's services.
    Any attempt to mix and match just ends in a compromise somewhere.
    Migrating from one to the other is straightforward.
    couldn't disagree more... I'm not a fan of googles services and gradually switched to Microsoft services while on Android. I personally felt Microsoft services on Android offered me a superior experience to Google's. Everything is Beta with Google and I always felt they're more interested in having a minimal interface vs one that is functional. Obviously that's something that will vary from person to person but if someone is switching to Android I'd highly recommend giving MS on Android a try first.
    Joshwin likes this.
    10-27-2015 12:25 AM
  2. hotphil's Avatar
    I just found that things like Google Cards not showing Outlook appointments, Contacts not having pictures (Outlook.com still doesn't support that) and various other limitations of trying MS services on another platform were annoying.
    10-27-2015 12:59 AM
  3. jeffoffline's Avatar
    Ahh... well obviously we have different use situations... I can see why you made the switch. But i still think Windows users moving to Google should at least give MS services a try first. Certainly can't hurt to give it a whirl for a few days.
    10-27-2015 01:12 AM
  4. ads13's Avatar
    I'll choose Android or iPhone
    10-27-2015 06:03 AM
  5. sheldon cohn's Avatar
    I have 3 Windows phones now, but compared to Iphone and Android there are well below the
    capabilities of the other phones. I almost feel I would have to carry 2 phones, since the Windows
    phones can't do what other phones do. I been commenting the Windows phones have to be
    able to support the same apps as the other phones. If they can't do those apps they should
    cost a lot less. The people can talk, text , check email, and browse the web with Windows phones,
    but can't get TV apps, security apps, some bank apps, and grocery store apps..
    10-27-2015 09:39 AM
  6. garak0410's Avatar
    The best option in this case might be to use the Gmail app instead of Outlook. I know; for a Microsoft fan it can be a nauseating thought... But the Gmail app natively supports Exchange, and from what I can tell it's quite feature complete. I'm not an Exchange power user however, so someone who uses it deeper than I do might find some things missing.
    SO, you are suggesting I uninstall Outlook and use the gmail app with my Outlook.com and Exchange accounts? Will it then sync my Outlook contacts without the need to export Outlook into Gmail and then use Gmail?
    10-27-2015 10:03 AM
  7. Compiux's Avatar
    In all honesty... I still don't know.
    I like the OS. I really enjoy the UI and the navigation! Do not mistake my statement, I feel iOS and Android are fine and I would adapt to any of them... but I am used to windows UI and is not that I am used... I really really like it.
    So, having said that... what I don;t like (on my Lumia 1020) is how some apps are sluggish. It infuriates me because my mom's android has a lower predecessor and 1/3 of my phone's RAM and it runs every app quite nicely.
    The "Loading..." screen is the major culprit. If they manage to optimize the performance of the OS and the developers clean their code... then yes, I will stay. Otherwise I will (with a heavy heart) say goodbye and move to Android... iPhone is overpriced and does not have midrange phones and while I dislike google with the strength of a thousand suns, at least I have a choice of devices.

    I hope things turn for the best. :P
    10-27-2015 05:05 PM
  8. tgp's Avatar
    SO, you are suggesting I uninstall Outlook and use the gmail app with my Outlook.com and Exchange accounts? Will it then sync my Outlook contacts without the need to export Outlook into Gmail and then use Gmail?
    Yes to all your questions. The only downside to this is that you are using Google's app instead of Microsoft's, but then this only matters if you are a Microsoft purist! I believe that if you ignore this fact, you will not see any downsides. Try it. It will take you about 30 seconds to set it up and see if it works.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    10-27-2015 10:01 PM
  9. Penny_1's Avatar
    SO, you are suggesting I uninstall Outlook and use the gmail app with my Outlook.com and Exchange accounts? Will it then sync my Outlook contacts without the need to export Outlook into Gmail and then use Gmail?
    So if you want to still continue using Outlook AND sync your contacts, what I've found is that you need to sync your email accounts though the default "email" application first. Doing that will allow you to sync your contacts, calendar, everything with the phone. Then you can set up Outlook as well with the accounts you want. After you do this, you will obviously have like 2-3 different email apps setup to handle your email, which is rather inefficient. If you open up the built-in email app now, go to Settings, and click on your Outlook account, you should have the option to choose what to sync (email, calendar, tasks, and contacts). I believe this is where the setting was btw, it could have actually been in the main system settings under Accounts. Uncheck email from there because you don't care to sync that with the default email application.

    Just got my Note 5 yesterday and was setting all this up. I really like the customizability (already have new default messaging, keyboard, and email applications as well as a custom theme), but the setup was nowhere near as easy as WP or iOS. Plus I hate how much bloatware is on this, and the fact that you have so many different apps serving the same purpose and vying for your data. And Android keeps warning you at every step just how much access everything has to your info. Kind of disconcerting, maybe I would rather have that happen in the background and trust Google to only hand out as much data as necessary.
    Scienceguy Labs likes this.
    10-29-2015 12:44 PM
  10. garak0410's Avatar
    So if you want to still continue using Outlook AND sync your contacts, what I've found is that you need to sync your email accounts though the default "email" application first. Doing that will allow you to sync your contacts, calendar, everything with the phone. Then you can set up Outlook as well with the accounts you want. After you do this, you will obviously have like 2-3 different email apps setup to handle your email, which is rather inefficient. If you open up the built-in email app now, go to Settings, and click on your Outlook account, you should have the option to choose what to sync (email, calendar, tasks, and contacts). I believe this is where the setting was btw, it could have actually been in the main system settings under Accounts. Uncheck email from there because you don't care to sync that with the default email application.

    Just got my Note 5 yesterday and was setting all this up. I really like the customizability (already have new default messaging, keyboard, and email applications as well as a custom theme), but the setup was nowhere near as easy as WP or iOS. Plus I hate how much bloatware is on this, and the fact that you have so many different apps serving the same purpose and vying for your data. And Android keeps warning you at every step just how much access everything has to your info. Kind of disconcerting, maybe I would rather have that happen in the background and trust Google to only hand out as much data as necessary.
    Glad you got your NOTE 5...will PM you with your thoughts.

    Right now, I have Outlook as my mail, calendar and contacts client. It syncs email and calendar very well. Contacts...if I enter a contact on Outlook.com website, I will see it on my phone and can see it for SMS. If I enter a contact on my phone, it only saves to GOOGLE/GMAIL. Under the outlook tab, it is is greyed out. Now, mind you, I do not sync in the MAIL APP. Side note, I also do not sync GMAIL in the GMAIL app as I forward it to my Outlook.com account anyway.
    10-29-2015 02:08 PM
  11. bmetelsky's Avatar
    Ordered my Note 5 from AT&T today. It looks like I'll be spending some significant time over at Android Central this weekend, trying to get a head start on learning what I can about the new device.
    10-29-2015 10:47 PM
  12. barondebxl's Avatar
    After trying windows 10...ABSOLUTELY and I own a note 5 by the way, a true beast
    10-30-2015 07:15 AM
  13. garak0410's Avatar
    After trying windows 10...ABSOLUTELY and I own a note 5 by the way, a true beast
    Loving my Note 5 but still thinking of going back to Windows 10...I think if I weren't on Verizon, I wouldn't feel so left behind...
    10-30-2015 09:16 AM
  14. her3814's Avatar
    My brother got 2 years ago a Lumia 620, by that moment I was looking forward Windows Phone 8, and using Android on a Sony Ericsson. When I first tried that phone, I just couldn't fall in love more.. So, last year by september bought a shiny, not so powerful, Lumia 630 which since August used Windows 10 Mobile. 3 days ago got a Microsoft Lumia 640 and I'm in love with the camera .. I don't really care about apps, so it's not "the big problem" for me.. Now i'm installing Windows 10 Mobile on my 640 after 3 days of messing with stock firmware.. But my "geeky me" couldn't stand Windows Phone 8.1 and just jumped into Windows 10 Mobile to see how it works in this phone
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    11-16-2015 12:48 AM
  15. Zeem Frostmaw's Avatar
    I'm certainly starting to question it with how unpolished Windows 10 Mobile appears to be. But at the same time, I'm not sure I'd get /that/ much better of an experience on Android or iOS, even with the extra app support.
    11-24-2015 08:25 PM
  16. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    One year and a half with the "flagship 930" and besides the very good camera, and beautiful amoled screen, the gift of a bluetooth speaker and a 20 voucher I really think my choice of living without google did not really pay off. WP 8.1 and 10 is a constant beta. My bank does not have a WP app. Neither my semi prof photo camera manufacturer. Of course they do have it for iOS and Android. WM10 is a copy of iOS the buttons the styles the fly-out of the tiles aso. Cortana's stupid regional settings are infuriating. British Cortana sounds like a female Hawkins simulator combined with a depressed BBC presenter. The list is very long and mostly boring. Now my question to you all, who had either of the flagship models would you go and spend another 4-500 or equivalent in any currency on a new Microsoft Mobile? Please put your hand on your heart and be honest. I will start by saying NO.
    Today we know that only 1/5 will buy another Microsoft Mobile and 4/5 will go for android/ios. I.e. 4 out of five Windows phones that you see out there will not be replaced.

    Ericsson: Only 20% of Windows Phone users stay with WP when they switch phones | The Verge
    11-25-2015 02:47 AM
  17. Flavio76's Avatar
    So if you want to still continue using Outlook AND sync your contacts, what I've found is that you need to sync your email accounts though the default "email" application first. Doing that will allow you to sync your contacts, calendar, everything with the phone. Then you can set up Outlook as well with the accounts you want. After you do this, you will obviously have like 2-3 different email apps setup to handle your email, which is rather inefficient. If you open up the built-in email app now, go to Settings, and click on your Outlook account, you should have the option to choose what to sync (email, calendar, tasks, and contacts). I believe this is where the setting was btw, it could have actually been in the main system settings under Accounts. Uncheck email from there because you don't care to sync that with the default email application.

    Just got my Note 5 yesterday and was setting all this up. I really like the customizability (already have new default messaging, keyboard, and email applications as well as a custom theme), but the setup was nowhere near as easy as WP or iOS. Plus I hate how much bloatware is on this, and the fact that you have so many different apps serving the same purpose and vying for your data. And Android keeps warning you at every step just how much access everything has to your info. Kind of disconcerting, maybe I would rather have that happen in the background and trust Google to only hand out as much data as necessary.
    Our you can buy the app Nine, that do all for you, contacts calendar email flawless sync folders etc etc etc unbeatable app try it
    12-04-2015 06:32 PM
  18. Flavio76's Avatar
    Glad you got your NOTE 5...will PM you with your thoughts.

    Right now, I have Outlook as my mail, calendar and contacts client. It syncs email and calendar very well. Contacts...if I enter a contact on Outlook.com website, I will see it on my phone and can see it for SMS. If I enter a contact on my phone, it only saves to GOOGLE/GMAIL. Under the outlook tab, it is is greyed out. Now, mind you, I do not sync in the MAIL APP. Side note, I also do not sync GMAIL in the GMAIL app as I forward it to my Outlook.com account anyway.
    Look for the app called nine.
    Sorry for double post folks, i tried to PM but can t do it on Wphone app...
    anyways if you try you will thank me. It also saves contacts in outlook, calendars etc...
    12-04-2015 06:36 PM
  19. Mike Bourbon's Avatar
    See, people keep saying stuff like this, without doing some more digging about it.
    Apple can thrive with laptops and desktops at single digit share, these days it's in the low teens btw, since it serves the >$1000 per unit, end of the market. Their margins on each product sold, as a hardware manufacturer are the envy of all other hardware manufacturers.
    Windows phones on the other hand, have a single digit worldwide share, at the lowest end of the phone market, with devices in the <$100 range, with next to zero margin, and Microsoft probably *loses* money on every device sold.

    See the difference?
    It's not in the teens. It's 6.9% - OSX is 6.9% of all the desktop/laptop OS's hitting the web. 91.39% of them are Windows. Source is netmarketshare. Furthermore, next tme you go to the hospital, take a look at the machines various machines they use. Most are not online, but stand alone machines running Windows. As are the one mechanics use and some in the manufacturing sector - none of them count towards the total number. Otherwise you would probably see OSX below 3%.

    Beyond that, MS is selling software, their cost is the developer hours it takes to write and maintain the O/S over it's lifespan. Times that by the billions of licenses it has out there. It's profit margin is probably higher than Apples when it comes to Desktop and Laptops because it's not actually making or selling them.
    Last edited by Mike Bourbon; 12-05-2015 at 12:36 AM.
    12-04-2015 08:06 PM
  20. editguy's Avatar
    I'll be with Windows Mobile as long as it exists. I can't stand the iOS or Android..
    libra89 and Tom Snyder like this.
    12-04-2015 08:26 PM
  21. Saqlain Zia's Avatar
    I must admit no i don't buy another lumia
    12-12-2015 09:07 AM
  22. Joshwin's Avatar
    WP all the way. I don't even have a second thought about it. What is more important is the OS. apps are getting better already, and in few years apps in all platforms are going to be very similar, what would set them apart will be the OS. and W10M will be in the frontline(with continuum and universal apps).I feel at home when I use WP as it has same UI language as my PC. I sort of feel insecure when I use an android phone. IOS is better but feel that isn't worth the huge money.
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    12-12-2015 10:22 AM
  23. Jim Bob4's Avatar
    Yes, if they came out with a replacement for the Lumia 1020
    12-12-2015 10:27 AM
  24. kwajr's Avatar
    Yes, if they came out with a replacement for the Lumia 1020
    The 950 is better
    12-12-2015 10:28 AM
  25. windobuddies625's Avatar
    Yes if they release Win10m officially soon
    12-12-2015 10:31 AM
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