What if the upcoming Lumia 950/xl is not the flagship?

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Looking at the leaked renders and photos of the Lumia 950 and 950xl I'm wondering, what if this is not the flagship phone that everyone is expecting?
I seem to remember that Nadella said they would concentrate on three areas for phones: budget/entry level, Business and Enthusiasts.

what if the 950 is the phone for business?

I think that people are thinking about business phones as mid range, but I think that what Microsoft might mean is durable, reliable and easy to repair/maintain etc. but not necessarily cheaper or less feature packed than the 'flagship'. Kind of like the Dell Latitude 5000 series or 6 series, or even their Precision Mobile Workstations. Those have objectively boring designs, and don't look premium, but have high specs and last a long time, exactly what a company is looking for.

this would explain the design of the Lumia 950/xl looking medium range, but having flagship specs.

more importantly, it would let us still hope for a different phone that looks stunning and will convince everyone to change to W10 Mobile
 

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A guy I know who works for Microsoft says these ARM based 950/950XL phones are good, but they're just "pacifier devices".. Just phones to get the OS (Win10 mobile) out the door. He says the real flagship phones are coming in January-February (Intel based).
 

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That's an interesting concept. It's pretty wide spread based off the recent comments and discussions from the WP community that most of us already own a previous flagship more premium looking than what Microsoft is offering us this fall. Well at least based off the renders and leaks which could actually be doing the real things a disservice. I just really hope we didn't have to wait close to two years(because many of the former flagships were exclusive) for that.

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I don't think business phones would be sporting cameras like that. I think the 950 and 950 XL's aesthetics may have reduced to wishful thinking.

What isn't wishful thinking is that there will probably be some kind of Intel-based Surface phone at some point, but who knows if it'll be flagship-class.

Also, those hoping for a new, less ugly phone may still have hope in the Lumia 840 (850?). The 830 certainly didn't disappoint in that regard, though of course that design came under Nokia's auspices.
 

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Looking at the leaked renders and photos of the Lumia 950 and 950xl I'm wondering, what if this is not the flagship phone that everyone is expecting?
I seem to remember that Nadella said they would concentrate on three areas for phones: budget/entry level, Business and Enthusiasts.

what if the 950 is the phone for business?

I think that people are thinking about business phones as mid range, but I think that what Microsoft might mean is durable, reliable and easy to repair/maintain etc. but not necessarily cheaper or less feature packed than the 'flagship'. Kind of like the Dell Latitude 5000 series or 6 series, or even their Precision Mobile Workstations. Those have objectively boring designs, and don't look premium, but have high specs and last a long time, exactly what a company is looking for.

this would explain the design of the Lumia 950/xl looking medium range, but having flagship specs.

more importantly, it would let us still hope for a different phone that looks stunning and will convince everyone to change to W10 Mobile


The most best explanation I have read so far....and that make sense. So the crier will cry some more cause they are still on the waiting list...LOL
 

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A guy I know who works for Microsoft says these ARM based 950/950XL phones are good, but they're just "pacifier devices".. Just phones to get the OS (Win10 mobile) out the door. He says the real flagship phones are coming in January-February (Intel based).

That too make sense
 

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If Nadella is really focusing on those three areas, I would think that the rumored Surface phone would be for business. But then again it would appeal to enthusiasts too. The 950 leaks just don't look 'business' to me.
 

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It's not that case. An x86-based Intel phone would be more business-aimed than consumer. These are running general flagship hardware. I don't know how you can think they're not the flagships, unless you think a magic Surface Phone shows up in the fall, or that Microsoft's is ACTUALLY stupid enough to take 2 years to release its first high-end phone.
 

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A guy I know who works for Microsoft says these ARM based 950/950XL phones are good, but they're just "pacifier devices".. Just phones to get the OS (Win10 mobile) out the door. He says the real flagship phones are coming in January-February (Intel based).
I want to believe this so bad. Please be right.
 

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I have a Lumia 1520 that I bought last Feb due to the rather strong feeling I had that it would still be quite some time before we saw an actual Flagship phone from MS. I love the 1520 and the finished product (Windows 8.1) that is the OS. I have a great music experience with a combination of the old Music Hub tile and xbox music. The camera is terrific. I am a golf pro and the "Moments" app to show individual frames of the video's that I take is invaluable when I am giving lessons.
I am not a fan so far of the mobile version of Windows 10 and their lack (Again!!) of a decent music app that had the features that the last version of the OS had. Doesn't have to have more features, just not less.
I feel like the comment about the coming flagships not being anything but a stopgap measure is probably very accurate, it is after all MS first attempt at a quality high end phone and it will be rife with problems. Afterall look how long they have been trying to get something as simple as a native music app done. Ask Apple how important they feel music is to the mobile experience, considering that it was the iPod that basically gave birth to the iPhone.
 

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I don't care if it's a flagship, I just hope it isn't the only flagship. I want a bonafide replacement for my 1520, and no, a 5.7" is not a replacement for the 1520.
 

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