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  1. jobinthomas's Avatar
    seriously? that's what ATMs are for? Gee I didn't know that. The whole point of the apps are for mobile check deposit. I will never understand this level of Microsoft defending. Sheesh.
    jhoff80 likes this.
    12-01-2015 01:48 PM
  2. Spicymikey's Avatar
    How is the app gap getting worse? It's actually getting better but at a slow rate. If it was getting worse we wouldn't be seeing all these new apps coming over. Even something simple like ibasket for ios coming over shows it's getting better. It's not fixed no doubt but don't get the getting worse part. Definitely will take time. Hope continuum gets people interested it seems the one thing reviewers can agree is cool about the 950.
    Sorry my friend. It's gotten MUCH worse in the last 12 months. It's not even debatable. I've lost at least 3 or 4 important apps this year which really make my life easier (i.e. banking apps, etc.). I want to think we've hit bottom now that Win10 is out on a phone, but I wouldn't bet on it quite yet.
    rmeigs and Clinton_O like this.
    12-01-2015 01:55 PM
  3. douggrif's Avatar
    Ever heard of transferring funds among accounts? I manage my money and the bank apps make that easy. I haven't written a check in over two years as paying bills and personal checks on line is great. Every time someone sends me a personal check guess how I deposit it? Any more questions?
    Clinton_O likes this.
    12-01-2015 01:55 PM
  4. feereless's Avatar
    I guess im just not one of those people who NEEDS an app for everything... I'm not buried in my phone 24/7. i have the apps i want/need. but i can understand the frustration in people who need apps. besides, who writes checks anymore
    12-01-2015 02:03 PM
  5. douggrif's Avatar
    I also am interested in being able to make WiFi calls via my Lumia 950XL as I do not have AT&T cellular service at my rural address.
    12-01-2015 02:22 PM
  6. asikis's Avatar
    I guess im just not one of those people who NEEDS an app for everything... I'm not buried in my phone 24/7. i have the apps i want/need. but i can understand the frustration in people who need apps. besides, who writes checks anymore
    I am also on the same side as you. I do not even use Facebook on phone, to be honest. BUT I expect at least the MSFT apps to work on par, if not better, on WP than iOS/Android. And the last month I have seen numerous MSFT apps being much better on iOS (UI of app, features etc) like Office apps, One Note, Skype, One Drive to name some.
    I can live if i do not have the latest games or apps but the gap of these MSFT apps from their iOS/Android cousins are so obvious. And this make you wonder if it is worth spend your money on a device and ecosystem that even its own maker, MSFT, seems not to have on respect.
    And for the shake of clarity I am am WP user since 2012 without using anything else except WP (710, 800,900, 1020, 930, 925, 625, 830).

    I also own an iPad and yes there is a huge app gap between the two ecosystems. And I am ok with this although sometimes I would like some apps also on WP (SkyGuide, Classic Music 1 and 2, Air Video Server). But seeing all this inconsistency with the MSFT own apps is really so sad....
    12-01-2015 02:35 PM
  7. LIEBER's Avatar
    I'm about to roll back to WM...
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    After my first traditional Nokia phone in 2003, I bought an HTC with WM 6 or so. Next, iPhone 3S (3G?), iPhone 4s, then Lumia 920, and now Samsung Note 3. None of them have been perfect.
    * iPhone: good apps, don't like iOS upgrade policy (deleted songs, bricked iPad 2, etc), lacks file system, how to turn off Siri?
    * Android: many apps, in general not good quality, hate the push to install various apps (Samsung, Android, etc), poor battery life ( last 6 months: perhaps 4 hours of intense web browsing), etc.
    * WP 8: good Office/Outlook/mail client. Few apps, but most of what I needed. Lumia 920: solid build quality, heavy. My first Lumia: spent half of the first 6 months back and forth between myself and the workshop. After I finally got a new one, the experience was much better. Battery life? Some 4 hours with 4G, 8hr with 3G.
    12-01-2015 02:35 PM
  8. Sarveshwar's Avatar
    The apps that gets developed for Windows Mobile are of lower quality than the Android or iOS. Just having an app for namesake is not enough.
    anon(6078578) likes this.
    12-01-2015 03:00 PM
  9. Spectrum90's Avatar
    W10M is superior to iOS and Android. It has all the apps I need and the OS is better.
    12-01-2015 03:19 PM
  10. NeilPeart's Avatar
    It happens, man. I recently got the iPhone 6S Plus from my employer (had the 5S prior from them) and the app variety and quality are drastically different. I have the Nexus 7 2013 32GB running Android 6 Marshmallow and that also reveals that the apps are still better in the Apple ecosystem overall. I still have my HTC Trophy with Windows Phone 7.8, HTC 8x & Lumia 928 running WP 8.1 and Lumia Icon running 10 for personal use. I still prefer the WP GUI to Android and iOS (though not to webOS - my favorite mobile OS), but the apps are important - the quality of those apps is as important as the "app gap" to me. When Verizon implements the $20 fee onto my unlimited data account I may just drop the account and use my work-provided iPhone full time.
    rmeigs likes this.
    12-01-2015 03:21 PM
  11. JasonSCarter's Avatar
    Been a MS fanboy for years, and I will love Microsoft. I work with Microsoft products, but it's really starting to be pain for me with no banking apps. I am covering my moms estate, and I have to cash checks constantly, I would love to be able to do mobile deposits from my phone instead of having to drive across town to the ATM. I talked my wife into a Windows Phone for the camera, and while she loves the camera, the lack of Pinterest and other key apps she enjoyed on Android, I have to listen to her complain. 3rd party sometimes are better, but not everyone knows to look for those. It has to get better for me to stay. I was had the 950 in my cart a few times when it was on pre-order, but I just never could pull the trigger because I am hesitant on spending that much money on a phone that may not work for me anymore.
    12-01-2015 03:33 PM
  12. Joe Acerbic's Avatar
    If only Microsoft would at least fix the gaps in their own apps... I very much wanted to buy a 950 XL but I'm a heavy OneNote user and I was just too appalled at seeing the state of the OneNote version on it. It's the worst, most crippled of all. How is that even possible: how hard can it be to at least have the same features in it as in the Android version? Or is the Office team actively sabotaging Windows Phone?
    12-01-2015 03:45 PM
  13. ciscog33k's Avatar
    Ya. It's depressing. I want MS to make progress in Mobile because I prefer the OS and like the idea of universal apps, but when it came time to replacing my 920, I grit my teeth and went with a 6S Plus. The difference in app quality/features is massive and was one of the things that swayed me when I borrowed my wife's iPhone for a week. WP still doesn't have a good fingerprint reader and by all accounts, windows hello on the phone is a bit of a pain to use because you have to pull phone up to your face. With the iPhone I just press the home button, which I have to do anyway, and it's unlocked.

    With WP there's all these little inconveniences (in addition to app gap) that you just don't have to deal with on iOS. I think Cortana will end up smarter than Siri, but without a good 3rd party ecosystem, so what? With Siri, right now, I can open my doors, control lights and hvac etc. I don't have to say things like "Siri, insteon turn on lights" because it's all integrated so well in homekit. It's such a cool feature. MS is still way behind on a lot of fronts where mobile is concerned. With Cortana, I'm still stuck at a gimped alpha version. Many people in other countries still don't have it at all. =/

    I'm missing live tiles a bit, and deep app pinning, but overall, I feel like i'm much better off with ios at this juncture.
    12-01-2015 03:51 PM
  14. waybig's Avatar
    How is the 6p? That's what I'm thinking of switching to.
    Not sure yet, still in processing at Google.
    12-01-2015 04:08 PM
  15. wisedesi's Avatar
    I thought costco mobile website also works well. I am less in to app for shopping sites, don't want to install every app in the world on my phone just to access them. Just use browser and done with it. But agree there is app gap and it is going to get bigger as more and more only develop for iOS and Android.

    Let me tell you other thing, more and more quality apps will only go on iOS not on andoid because android is too much fragmented and usually less revenue for purchasing apps. So, If I am someone moving away from WP, than iOS is the place not android.
    12-01-2015 05:09 PM
  16. Changaizee's Avatar
    you never know, maybe GOOGLE is paying them not port the apps, i mean look at google, MSFT apps are available on play store, yet google has not made youtube and gmail app on windows store, there has to be a story behind. LOL
    12-01-2015 05:13 PM
  17. cracgor's Avatar
    It is a simple story. 80% of mobile users are on android. 3% of mobile users are on windows. Same reason no one developed for blackberry.
    12-01-2015 05:20 PM
  18. wisedesi's Avatar
    The app gap doesn't bother me one bit. I support companies that support Windows Mobile, and I leave companies that don't. I just got the new 950 with AT&T and it's fantastic. I use Wells Fargo for banking, I threw my DropCam in the trash and picked up a Homeboy security camera system. I'm fully committed to Windows 10 and Windows 10 Mobile, and I go out of my way to support companies that provide apps for these platforms. Don't have an app for Windows 10 Mobile? I just move on.
    I am with you but it is getting hard to recommand others. My kids and family are using WP also and not one really complains as most of the apps we use are there. Get rid of BOA and moved to Ally and it is much better but still. I would not recommand WP to any one. I will keep using it until it folds.
    12-01-2015 05:20 PM
  19. wisedesi's Avatar
    Agree with you, I was POed when BofA pulled their app, my solution changed the bank. Now I am with Ally and boy I am glad I did cause getting way more interest ;)
    12-01-2015 05:28 PM
  20. feereless's Avatar

    Let me tell you other thing, more and more quality apps will only go on iOS not on andoid because android is too much fragmented and usually less revenue for purchasing apps. So, If I am someone moving away from WP, than iOS is the place not android.
    not to mention that android is ridden with viruses as much as syphilis is rampant in a strip club...
    12-01-2015 05:38 PM
  21. saulgould13's Avatar
    Folks what's the bigger picture MS is attempting to paint? Look deeper.
    12-01-2015 05:43 PM
  22. wisedesi's Avatar
    I am riding WP boat, not buying 950xl (1520 just works great) and might look to surface phone when MSFT release it.
    I hope Microsoft understands and release unlocked version of phone which works on all carries so, we don't have to buy international version which comes up in Chinese language.
    12-01-2015 05:54 PM
  23. Jack Neill's Avatar
    Is it really better to juggle two different phones than to just pin the Chase's mobile site as a tile on your 640? I don't get it......
    The mobile website sucks. So, yes it is better to juggle phones.
    12-01-2015 06:44 PM
  24. LuxuryTouringZone's Avatar
    "App gap finally got me :("

    I did not read much replies due to the length of this thread, but anyone buying a Windows Phone or Blackberry 10 phone should be aware that they don't have as much apps as Android and iOS due to lack of developer interest. Windows Phone does seem to be actually trying though, and is slowly improving.
    12-01-2015 06:53 PM
  25. Nabkawe5's Avatar
    I'm sorry you've done that, I love the Galaxy S6 and it's a good phone but it has the worst battery ever.
    12-01-2015 07:04 PM
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