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  1. Chong Han's Avatar
    The Apps gap really is the problem for me. The apps inside the store almost stuck on WP8.1 version and the developer of the apps does not update it. For example the facebook, Wechat, Line, even they got updated, but still the apps quality, functionality and UI still cannot beat with other OS like in android and IOS. Please dun push apps quantity, but push the quality of WIN10 M quality. I will try to stay in W10M now and waiting something miracle from MS (IOS apps port to W10M).
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    12-01-2015 06:59 PM
  2. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Ever heard of transferring funds among accounts? I manage my money and the bank apps make that easy. I haven't written a check in over two years as paying bills and personal checks on line is great. Every time someone sends me a personal check guess how I deposit it? Any more questions?
    I use my banking app which supports Windows phone and does a damn good job. :)
    12-01-2015 07:14 PM
  3. chmun77's Avatar
    I'm about to roll back to WM...
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    After my first traditional Nokia phone in 2003, I bought an HTC with WM 6 or so. Next, iPhone 3S (3G?), iPhone 4s, then Lumia 920, and now Samsung Note 3. None of them have been perfect.
    * iPhone: good apps, don't like iOS upgrade policy (deleted songs, bricked iPad 2, etc), lacks file system, how to turn off Siri?
    * Android: many apps, in general not good quality, hate the push to install various apps (Samsung, Android, etc), poor battery life ( last 6 months: perhaps 4 hours of intense web browsing), etc.
    * WP 8: good Office/Outlook/mail client. Few apps, but most of what I needed. Lumia 920: solid build quality, heavy. My first Lumia: spent half of the first 6 months back and forth between myself and the workshop. After I finally got a new one, the experience was much better. Battery life? Some 4 hours with 4G, 8hr with 3G.
    There is an option in Setting for that.

    Personally, I find my daily needs are much better after switching to iOS. Like you, I have already most of the apps I needed when I was with Windows Phone. However, after switching over to iOS, there are even much more apps choices and official ones as compared to the ones on Windows store. Is like a totally new experiences for me. Furthermore, apps are much more polished as well on iOS.
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    12-01-2015 08:20 PM
  4. chmun77's Avatar
    W10M is superior to iOS and Android. It has all the apps I need and the OS is better.
    I used to have the same thoughts as well, until I got myself a new iPhone. I can find even much more choices other than "those I need". And even the apps supports are so much better and devs are much more responsive with feedback. Is like a whole different world. No more worries about lacking of apps and no more Resuming and Reloading nonsense.
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    12-01-2015 08:24 PM
  5. badcat's Avatar
    Well, I resisted as long as I could, but the flash on my Nokia 928 died and I needed a new phone as the phone did not perform well with W10m and was hanging on W8.1m randomly. I seriously thought of switching from Verizon to AT&T to get the 950 (which would have cost me more per month and required a phone payoff on another line), but ultimately, the app gap got me. I have lost Chase and Mint and had no availability of quicken, bayweb, Honeywell home control and many others on Windows Mobile. Plus, all of my favorite Microsoft apps are now available on Android including Cortana. So I had to bite the bullet and get the Samsung S6. :(. I hate giving up live tiles and glance, but ultimately the app gap swayed me. I really hope that this is fixed sometime in the future so I can come back.
    Well I hear you, for sure. I don't think I will buy another Windows Phone. I had a chance to go back to Android when I switched back to Verizon and I didn't. Now I regret it. I love WP for the most part but even as an avowed non-power user the lack of apps is starting to become a real source of frustration for me. I've had an 822, an 830 and now I'm using a 735. All great and reliable phones. I will probably look for something equivalent to the 735 hardware wise. I don't need (or want) a ginormous flagship with a six in screen. Good luck with the S6.
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    12-01-2015 08:30 PM
  6. Roddie Toney's Avatar
    If you use Twitter on PC it acts same way. My apps update regularly so that has not been a problem.
    12-01-2015 09:03 PM
  7. cracgor's Avatar
    There is an option in Setting for that.

    Personally, I find my daily needs are much better after switching to iOS. Like you, I have already most of the apps I needed when I was with Windows Phone. However, after switching over to iOS, there are even much more apps choices and official ones as compared to the ones on Windows store. Is like a totally new experiences for me. Furthermore, apps are much more polished as well on iOS.
    This is really the point. Being in windows phone for years, I don't know what I am missing. And yes, I know some of what I'm missing, but nowhere near the truth.
    12-01-2015 09:09 PM
  8. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    Consider starting an online petition to Snapchat? Maybe it will get some press.
    I am curious why this guy won't let WP make an app for it. He might have a hate on for MS, but he's being a jerk to a bunch of people who have nothing to do with his beef. I could understand if he didn't want to absorb the costs.
    But seriously, what's his issue?
    12-01-2015 10:30 PM
  9. Julius Velasco's Avatar
    I know what you mean... I used to be in IOS then Droid then IOS again then Windows Mobile. There is a lot of quality apps in IOS compare the Droid and Windows Mobile specially for games.
    12-01-2015 10:49 PM
  10. SPS828's Avatar
    I'm 65% sure there was a petition earlier in the year that they ignored that got thousands of signings (change.org I think?). I heard Snapchat was doing terrible in 2014 (something like $128M loss $3M profit) so it would be a good thing for investors and consumers to expand their audience but a mind-numbingly stupid decision to not do this out of spite.
    12-01-2015 11:24 PM
  11. Pete's Avatar
    I am curious why this guy won't let WP make an app for it. He might have a hate on for MS, but he's being a jerk to a bunch of people who have nothing to do with his beef. I could understand if he didn't want to absorb the costs.
    But seriously, what's his issue?
    It's simple, he's holding out to get bought by Microsoft for a huge price (remember Minecraft?)

    Unfortunately, it seems unlikely that Microsoft will simply buy up these app companies when those buyouts make no economic sense (Minecraft is a total cash-cow).
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    12-02-2015 01:05 AM
  12. TechAbstract's Avatar
    outlook on windows 10 mobile is much better than the iOS counterpart. The calendar and the ability to pin folders makes it much better. It's cleaner as well.
    Maybe, but I wouldn't surprised if the whole Office team uses iDevices at Microsoft lol. Windows Phone/mobile is last on their list.

    https://products.office.com/en-us/mobile/office
    Office 365 Admin App
    https://support.office.com/en-us/art...1-D3FC44584EC6
    12-02-2015 01:40 AM
  13. IccyAsd's Avatar
    After reading all the post here i see most user is missing 3rd party apps & banking apps, some of you guys even transfer money to another bank with WP apps (Good work at that :) )

    For banking app i think we can choose a much more drastic action to make them make the app for WP than us finding an alternative work around, if everyone here would closed bank account with a reason of no available app for my phone they would probably take a hit on that, especially some rich folks here or business owner with company bank.


    we gotta make them feel it, Just my 2 cent
    12-02-2015 02:39 AM
  14. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    After reading all the post here i see most user is missing 3rd party apps & banking apps, some of you guys even transfer money to another bank with WP apps (Good work at that :) )

    For banking app i think we can choose a much more drastic action to make them make the app for WP than us finding an alternative work around, if everyone here would closed bank account with a reason of no available app for my phone they would probably take a hit on that, especially some rich folks here or business owner with company bank.


    we gotta make them feel it, Just my 2 cent
    Sorry, but that just does not sound feasible. Many of us choose banks for their services and for their interest rates (high on savings, low on loans). It is much easier to change phones than change banks in many cases, especially if someone has a long term mortgage. Nobody has a cell phone contract for 30 years.
    12-02-2015 02:53 AM
  15. Zunjin's Avatar
    Windows mobile market share is 3%.
    It's all about the non existing sales in the US, which makes MSP look bad. But the world is much bigger than the small US of A!

    Let's take a look at the worlds biggest market, which is Europe, will we. Here in the (good) old world, Microsoft Phone is more or less on par with Apples iOS (for example: in Germany there is just a gap of 3% between MSP and IOs), in other countries like Italy, MS Phone even exceeded Apple and it's iOS. Also the market shares of both, Apple and MS are rising, while Android is losing ground (EU Top5: +1.7% MSP, +2.5% IOs, -3.3% Android, -0.8% others). There is enough money to make for MS and any App Developer.

    Also the Aussies seam to like MSP also, which has a market share of ~10%. Not to mention all those big developing markets, like India and Brazil, where MS market shares are growing slow but steady, while Apple can't take off.

    It doesn't seem like Microsoft having a problem with most of its world wide sales, but the US having a problem with Microsoft. Why is that?
    Last edited by Zunjin; 12-02-2015 at 03:43 AM.
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    12-02-2015 03:18 AM
  16. mnsiw's Avatar
    If only Microsoft would at least fix the gaps in their own apps... I very much wanted to buy a 950 XL but I'm a heavy OneNote user and I was just too appalled at seeing the state of the OneNote version on it. It's the worst, most crippled of all. How is that even possible: how hard can it be to at least have the same features in it as in the Android version? Or is the Office team actively sabotaging Windows Phone?
    Same for me, because of this I use OneNote on Droid or in browser, on WM it's too slow.
    12-02-2015 03:34 AM
  17. cracgor's Avatar
    It's all about the non existing sales in the US, which makes MSP look bad. But the world is much bigger than the small US of A!

    Let's take a look at the worlds biggest market, which is Europe, will we. Here in the (good) old world, Microsoft Phone is more or less on par with Apples iOS (for example: in Germany there is just a gap of 3% between MSP and IOs), in other countries like Italy, MS Phone even exceeded Apple and it's iOS. Also the market shares of both, Apple and MS are rising, while Android is losing ground (EU Top5: +1.7% MSP, +2.5% IOs, -3.3% Android, -0.8% others). There is enough money to make for MS and any App Developer.

    Also the Aussies seam to like MSP also, which has a market share of ~10%. Not to mention all those big developing markets, like India and Brazil, where MS market shares are growing slow but steady, while Apple can't take off.

    It doesn't seem like Microsoft having a problem with most of its world wide sales, but the US having a problem with Microsoft. Why is that?
    Because in the US, most people figure out a way to get an iPhone on contract or pay per month. In the rest of the world, people pay outright for their phones. Even so, I don't know if the developing world has the demand to push developers into action.
    12-02-2015 07:12 AM
  18. foxbat121's Avatar
    Arguably, world's biggest market is China, not Europe. I saw zero Windows Phone presence there. Most ppl use home grown Android phones even though none of the Google services, or even any Google domains, are accessible there.
    12-02-2015 07:28 AM
  19. M7H's Avatar
    It doesn't seem like Microsoft having a problem with most of its world wide sales, but the US having a problem with Microsoft. Why is that?
    Because in the US, people spend more money then they can afford, or even earn. Just get another credit card if you need money.....
    In Europe, there is this consumers protection, but if the same system would be applied in the US, people will start complaining about there privacy.
    (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
    12-02-2015 07:34 AM
  20. DoyoubiNoAme's Avatar
    As a long time windows phone user (since HTC 8x) I sometimes felt like app gap is getting me, but, mostly, I just like the idea of ascetic phone, which is a helpful tool and not the center of your world. For this reason I always was okay with lack of certain apps. But I came to somehow strange conclusion lately.
    Recently I sold my 930 and switched back to HTC 8X, while waiting for 950 sales start in my country. Along with 8x i got back my Nokia 1100. The cheapest phone possible. Because you cant put nanosim into 8x, but can somehow place it into 1100, lol, and im too lazy to switch nanosim to microsim, and back to nanosim when 950 arrives.
    Okay, so in this setup I found myself using HTC 8x only for Alarms and Camera. I literaly had no other application for it, despite it always being connected to wifi at home\work. So i started to question myself not "should i buy 950 or other android\ios smartphone?" but "Do I even need a smartphone?"
    I still will get myself 950, because of camera and, well, my love for MS devices and features, but not because I desperately need a good smartphone.
    12-02-2015 07:50 AM
  21. Alessandro Dut's Avatar
    The time it takes between the click and the picture does not produce blur, unless the person was standing still and started to run just before the flash.
    To reduce blur you have to manually control the shutter speed if you are taking picures of moving objects.

    Still what probably was happening is that she shakes her hand too much when pressing the camera button. (My wife does that and takes blurred pictures using my phone) One way to reduce this is to use the screen button which doenst require a hard press to take the picture.
    12-02-2015 07:53 AM
  22. Guillaume Anfroy's Avatar
    Hi,
    In my free time, I publish free application that are trying to feel the gaps of missing application in the windows store. Maybe we should list them and check which one are easy to publish on Windows ?
    12-02-2015 08:06 AM
  23. omagic82's Avatar
    No doubt the app gap is real and an issue, but the bigger issue I see killing Windows Mobile is apps that aren't update or that stop working.

    I justified my 950 purchase with its camera. It has an edge over iPhone and Android cameras and its a very real edge. I was at a Christmas Lights concert last night and by far the best pictures that were taken in the low light was with my phone. It wasn't even close. With or without flash, the 950 devices still take the lead in camera technology, no matter what the Verge says.
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    12-02-2015 08:09 AM
  24. hack14u's Avatar
    I too went to a LG G Flex 2, android as my daily driver. For me it's only 3 apps that I use a lot that aren't there - Wal-Mart (for the pharmacy), Publix (for the buy one get ones while I am in the store), and On Star (to remote start my car).
    12-02-2015 08:26 AM
  25. explosive0's Avatar
    As always, I say people need to find what works for them best and use it. I always keep the latest Windows Phone flagship handy for when I get the urge to use WP, but I can't use it as my daily driver for a few reasons, but here are just two:
    1. Airline and hotel apps: I travel every week for work. Living without some of these apps makes life a lot more difficult. It completely ruins my daily workflow.
    2. Home automation apps: I hate having to (and often forget) transferring my garage door opener from one car to the other. My garage door interfaces with my home alarm and lets me open the door from my app. When I'm using the iPhone, it's as easy as opening the app, authenticating with touch ID and clicking open. All of this can be done while driving. With WP, I have to pull in front of my garage, park, launch the webapp, login and navigate a few menus to do the same thing.
    cracgor likes this.
    12-02-2015 08:38 AM
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