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  1. kappatau808's Avatar
    i agree with the other guy. battery life on the s6 is kinda crap. in know i have been using galaxy s6 and have already replaced once and about to replace it again. it does get laggy sometimes. sometimes apps crash most of the time its google play crashing. i don;t know if it's the phone itself or the app im using that has issues but sometimes lets say for example im using amazon app, i search for something i find it and open in and stuck loading. i have to close the app or go flight mode to get it working right.over 90% battery 9am, just listening to music and answering calls,by 12 noon? 65%-70%.thats with all the bloatware uninstalled or frozen. wifi calling off, gps off, screen brightness low.my Oneplus one had better battery life used the exact same way still over 85% by noon

    well that and like what happend with iphone, after i phone 4 i got bored and went to android via samsung and oneplus one but i am just a little broed with android now
    12-02-2015 11:45 PM
  2. tgp's Avatar
    Currently being used as my daily driver. My iPhone 6s Plus and Lumia 950XL are currently sitting in my dresser drawer. It's the best of all, especially when paired with Project Fi.
    The Nexus 6P is ugly in my opinion, but judging by reviews I've seen, it is generally heralded as the phone of the year. I decided to keep my Nexus 6 another year rather than upgrade to the 6P, but now I'm almost 2nd guessing my decision!

    I just signed up for Project Fi again. I have a couple international trips in the next 6 weeks, and Fi seemed to be the best solution for me. I bought a Nexus 5X for it. That's a great phone for its price! I ended up getting it at B&H at the Black Friday price of $299.
    12-02-2015 11:47 PM
  3. kappatau808's Avatar
    i used to use mint. now i use prism, i just like it better. and looks like windows has it in the store
    12-03-2015 12:20 AM
  4. killakiloz's Avatar
    If Facebook is horrible on iOS, I think the version on Windows Phone deserves to be killed. From what you posted, seems like the root of the problem is that you are not used to iOS. Or perhaps you refused to relearn a new OS.

    I have switched over to iP6s+ since October and I never look back to Windows phone. I don't fancy "live" tiles at all because to me, those are simply shortcuts in squares. I don't wait for the tiles to flip for updated information and most of the time, they are not even updated. Should I need latest information, I will simply launch the apps anyways.

    Since on iOS, I have so much apps choices, besides regional banking apps and snapchat. Even Instagram are the latest on iOS unlike the forever BETA tag on windows phone. Furthermore, iOS users receive regular updates for their apps. Missing apps on windows phone is only tip of the ice berg. Keeping the apps polished and updated is also another major issue with the platform.
    Agree to disagree, but user experience with iOS is not my problem. I've had an ipad mini 2 for some random games/facetime for family for about a year now. My problems are with terrible touch id, stale OS with limited functions and options. Maybe your app needs are different, but 6tag, my RBC app, FB, twitter, and some news apps are all I need. To each their own
    12-03-2015 12:40 AM
  5. Robinator's Avatar
    The way to fix the app gap? MS should pay the devs for their apps, and encourage people to pay for apps so that a culture is created like the Apple iOS culture where people make apps and actually get a monetary return. Personally I am quite happy with the apps in Windows Phone and believe more will come with time, but who cares about 99% of the cr-apps out there anyways -- most are junk on all platforms.
    12-03-2015 12:58 AM
  6. Domestoboto92x's Avatar
    I'd say the only real pain point I have with my Windows experience (8X and Lumia 1320) compared to my Android (Galaxy Note 3) is with the games - Games on Windows PhoMo (especially Indie dev games) are either crap or lagging seriously behind Android. Otherwise, it's mostly comparable between Android and Windows for what I need, except for the lack of any Snapchat app, otherwise the developers here really did quite a number in filling the gaps.

    - Rudy Huyn's apps - 6Sec (Vine,) 6Tag (Instagram,) and 6Tin (Tinder) are significantly better than the official Android counterparts.
    - An actually usable third party Tumblr app (I mean, Android doesn't need one, but it's mandatory here.)
    - Most official apps are functional - Flipboard, Jawbone's UP just landed, Fitbit, Quizup, Viber and the like.

    I'd say the apps discrepancy problem for me is not as bad as the blogosphere has perpetuated.
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    12-03-2015 01:25 AM
  7. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    The way to fix the app gap? MS should pay the devs for their apps, and encourage people to pay for apps so that a culture is created like the Apple iOS culture where people make apps and actually get a monetary return. Personally I am quite happy with the apps in Windows Phone and believe more will come with time, but who cares about 99% of the cr-apps out there anyways -- most are junk on all platforms.
    Microsoft already tried paying developers for apps. It didn't work. The developers never bothered to update the apps. That's why Instagram has been in beta since its release.

    Many of the apps people want are things like banking apps and store apps. Nobody would pay for a banking app, when their bank already charges enough fees to use it. Nobody would pay for a Starbucks app when they pay for their coffee already.
    Visa Declined and xandros9 like this.
    12-03-2015 01:29 AM
  8. Shan Ali Khan's Avatar
    well after being a loyal customer and lover for Microsoft. App gap is getting me
    My regional banks apps are on ios and android.
    Local shopping store apps are on both.
    Even the learning website i use have app only for ios and android i cant read and watch videos unlike other mates.

    I really love Microsoft, i will be using MS apps in IOS , after shifting but i think i have to leave MS now after using Windows Phone since version 6.

    Also looking forward to get macbook instead of windows 10 laptop which i am already using , as i only use for development. It will be complete set of Apple and MS in my laptop and Phone.
    00_MACKIE_00 likes this.
    12-03-2015 05:05 AM
  9. gnrthx's Avatar
    I was in the same boat as OP. The app gap just simply got into me and it's been a year and a half. I honestly love WP, the wireless charging, live tiles and the camera (good god that camera with HAAC is just a beast during music festivals and in low light). However, my app needs weren't present at the time, and still is today. The only phone that is worthy of my money is if it has a good camera and the Lumias will always be in my top list, however I have settled to an LG G4, and it has made me forget my woes with WP. I hope to come back soon though, the L950 looks great.
    12-03-2015 10:54 AM
  10. metalchick719's Avatar
    Certain apps are definitely must-have for me, and none of those is Snapchat - I could care less about that type of app. It's nice having a banking app (and no, I don't use Chase or one of the more well-known biggies). I've been on an iPhone 6s since late September and love it, but I'll admit that I miss using Windows Phone, especially my Lumia 925. I also want to say that I prefer Windows Phone's WordFlow keyboard about 100% over the native iOS and SwiftKey keyboards I use on my iPhone combined. It's no contest!!

    I wasn't a fan of the Project Astoria idea, but if certain apps make their way to Windows Phone, I'll probably go back at some point. I'm not really interested in the 950 or 950 XL, though. I have glimpsed the 830 unlocked on eBay recently because it would be difficult going back to a screen smaller than the iPhone 6s' 4.7-inch at this point...
    12-03-2015 11:06 AM
  11. ShaneRay's Avatar
    I had hopes-- not high hopes, but hopes-- for the Universal Apps platform. That, combined with Android and/or iOS support in some fashion had a chance to improve things a great deal.

    It's a little early to make the final judgement, but I don't see the UA platform succeeding now. Despite some increase, I see very little interest from developers and even less interest from consumers. MS might reach their goal of 1 billion Win10 installs, but if the vast majority of users of those installs are uninterested in the store apps, then game over. And that's what I see happening.

    Now, reports are coming in that MS killed the Android apps on mobile as they thought it would hurt their UA platform. A platform that hasn't proved itself yet and doesn't appear will find success. I'm one who thought Android apps were a good idea if only because it was time for a Hail-marry play. There's still iOS apps, but developers still need to do the work to port them and provide support. If things go the way I see them going, I don't believe developers will have much incentive for doing that.

    Anyway...it's early and a lot of speculation here on my part, at least, but I do find myself considering a jump to Android or iOS in the near future. I just don't see things improving with the ecosystem...certainly not in the short-term.
    12-03-2015 11:32 AM
  12. mprice86's Avatar
    Having been a user since WP7 I'm definitely starting to feel like I'm 'done' with Windows Phone/Mobile. Windows 10, although buggy, is a lovely OS on my 640XL. But. The app situation is pretty dire.

    Although popular new apps not coming to the platform is nothing new, it does get annoying seeing a new story about something that just came out, but isn't available. It isn't just the lack of new apps that contributes to the 'gap' (more like chasm in this case) as much as it is the lack of updates for existing apps. Instagram not being updated for so long is a disgrace, Facebook and Twitter are way behind their iOS/Android counterparts, there are STILL no Google apps (yes, I know why). None of the issues are going to be solved over night, and it's all very well for people to say 'give it time, things will get better', but a lot of people here have been waiting for 3+ years for things to get better.

    I'll be sad to give up WM and my 640XL when I find an acceptable Android device, but I have a feeling that catching up on 3 years worth of apps will make up for it.
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    12-03-2015 11:56 AM
  13. thetruth1960's Avatar
    We've had 3 L920 in our house for 3 years. In all this time I've seen MS mobile strategy keep going downhill. Yes, the app gap is getting bigger. Someone said that the gap is not getting bigger because those apps someone mentioned never existed before in WP/WM. That true. But they also didn't exist in Android/iOS. More and more apps are being developed for those platforms and are not for WP. So, yes the gap is getting bigger.

    I'm not ready to give up on MS windows strategy yet. But I don't have much confidence either.

    Today, via UPS, I will be getting two brand new Windows phones. No, they are not the premium phones (950/XL) There is no way I can justify paying that kind of money for this declining platform. I'm getting 2 640s that I purchased for $40 last week. That's the best I can do.

    Notice that I'm only getting two 640's even though we have 3 920s. The reason is my son is now in college and he's getting an Android for Christmas. That's the only thing that makes sense. Here is an example of a convenient app. He can put his cloths in the washer and/or dryer and if he has an iOS or Android phone, he would get a message when the cycle is done. Thats another example of the gap getting bigger. 5 years ago when Windows Phone came out that app didnt exist for the other platforms. Now, it does. So thats one more app missing.
    cracgor, MikeSo, mprice86 and 3 others like this.
    12-03-2015 12:06 PM
  14. dbdayton's Avatar
    Since getting the 950XL and how buggy the W10 mobile system has been, I've been more aware of the app gap. It got worse with W10, not better. Many apps that worked in W8 are now gone from W10. Before, there were a few missing, but they didn't effect my life in any way.

    Losing MLB's At Bat to me is the straw that might break my will to stick with this OS. I do prefer Windows OS over Android or Iphone, but the app gap is not getting better its' getting worse, and I don't see any of the solutions that Windows putting out, gaining any traction at all, besides giving fanboys hope, which looks to me to be misplaced hope.
    12-03-2015 12:51 PM
  15. thetruth1960's Avatar
    Since getting the 950XL and how buggy the W10 mobile system has been, I've been more aware of the app gap. It got worse with W10, not better. Many apps that worked in W8 are now gone from W10. Before, there were a few missing, but they didn't effect my life in any way.

    Losing MLB's At Bat to me is the straw that might break my will to stick with this OS. I do prefer Windows OS over Android or Iphone, but the app gap is not getting better its' getting worse, and I don't see any of the solutions that Windows putting out, gaining any traction at all, besides giving fanboys hope, which looks to me to be misplaced hope.
    I could be considered a fan boy for sure. But even me, I couldn't see spending the kind of money on the 950/XL that MS is asking. If those had been around $300/$350 they would had been a decent buy for a fan boy like me. Not that I don't think the phones, hardware wise, are worth the price MS is asking for. The problem is that the platform cannot, and should not command these prices.

    I'll be getting a Surface Book or a Surface Pro 4 this month. I'm waiting for the i7 16GB Surface Pro 4 before I make the decision. The reason I bring this up is that I think those devices can command a premium price and I'm willing to pay for it. I just can't see paying premium prices for the declining platform WM10 is.
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    12-03-2015 01:08 PM
  16. laserfloyd's Avatar
    WM10 wasn't ready and isn't ready. I'm honestly surprised it got released. This is seemingly one of the lower points of the last few years for MS in the mobile area. They need to get serious in that arena. I'm holding out for what Panos is going to deliver. He's done a bang up job with Surface. Windows Mobile needs him. I love my WP so I'm gonna hold out as long as I can.
    12-03-2015 01:19 PM
  17. Devan Hammack's Avatar
    WM10 wasn't ready and isn't ready. I'm honestly surprised it got released. This is seemingly one of the lower points of the last few years for MS in the mobile area. They need to get serious in that arena. I'm holding out for what Panos is going to deliver. He's done a bang up job with Surface. Windows Mobile needs him. I love my WP so I'm gonna hold out as long as I can.
    Seriously? Wasn't done, isn't done?
    Give me a break.. I've been using it for months now and, while it was rough until about mid or late October, its definitely "done" enough to be released.
    For daily use, its got very few glitches. Its quick, and (after a week with the 950XL) the battery seems to be doing very well. I got to 8pm last night with 51% left.. and its hooked up to my MS Band 2 all day.
    There are a few things that can be sped up or streamlined, but its the best OS out there.

    Here's a pro tip: Get off the forums, or read forums for the other OS's. People are overwhelmingly negative on forums and it can really skew your thinking if you don't know that fact.
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    12-03-2015 01:33 PM
  18. cracgor's Avatar
    WM10 wasn't ready and isn't ready. I'm honestly surprised it got released. This is seemingly one of the lower points of the last few years for MS in the mobile area. They need to get serious in that arena. I'm holding out for what Panos is going to deliver. He's done a bang up job with Surface. Windows Mobile needs him. I love my WP so I'm gonna hold out as long as I can.
    I think Microsoft assumed windows phone fans would deal with the bugs and act as beta testers. The only other idea would be they don't care and want windows mobile to die. RIP WM10 Jan 2018!
    sarsau likes this.
    12-03-2015 01:33 PM
  19. thetruth1960's Avatar
    I think Microsoft assumed windows phone fans would deal with the bugs and act as beta testers. The only other idea would be they don't care and want windows mobile to die. RIP WM10 Jan 2018!
    2018? Are you giving it that long? LaserFloyd says he's waiting for what Panos delivers. I'm with him. That might be the last chance for WM. You need a real premium device that has the "WOW" factor instead of the "me too... maybe" factor the 950/XL have. And of course, what we're talking about here. The gap has to somehow start closing because if it doesn't, not even the WOW factor is going to matter.
    12-03-2015 01:43 PM
  20. cracgor's Avatar
    2018 was a joke about the end of life for wm10 just announced today. I think the app gap is probably insurmountable. I don't even know if making the 950/xl free would increase mobile share enough.
    12-03-2015 01:46 PM
  21. xandros9's Avatar
    2018 was a joke about the end of life for wm10 just announced today. I think the app gap is probably insurmountable. I don't even know if making the 950/xl free would increase mobile share enough.
    Its standard procedure. As 10 is updated, more recent 10 builds will have later EOL dates mind you.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    12-03-2015 02:26 PM
  22. SPS828's Avatar
    Microsoft needs to put emphasis on the indie developer. WM has a lot of potential in this space with the "new + rising" section and I think indie apps could get recognized more easily due to the smaller amount of apps. There are so many good iOS apps that I've seen that haven't gotten enough recognition because of how hard it is to find the app in the store.
    12-03-2015 04:04 PM
  23. MikeSo's Avatar
    I think W10M overall is a pleasure to use. Compared to Android it feels polished enough for release (can't speak to iOS). It no longer has the uniqueness of WP in navigation, but still feels great to use. It has bugs, but still works fine.

    That said, I just went ahead and ordered a Moto X Pure. I'm hoping that I won't hate it too much :) and that the universal apps thing catches on so threads like these won't be necessary say... two years from now.
    12-03-2015 05:08 PM
  24. Muessig's Avatar
    I think W10M overall is a pleasure to use. Compared to Android it feels polished enough for release (can't speak to iOS). It no longer has the uniqueness of WP in navigation, but still feels great to use. It has bugs, but still works fine.

    That said, I just went ahead and ordered a Moto X Pure. I'm hoping that I won't hate it too much :) and that the universal apps thing catches on so threads like these won't be necessary say... two years from now.

    Are you doing WM totally out using the moto as a backup?
    12-03-2015 05:11 PM
  25. MikeSo's Avatar
    Are you doing WM totally out using the moto as a backup?
    I already have a Moto E that I use as a backup in order to get some apps that aren't on WP. So now I'm going to go all out and use the X full time I figured. Not sure how that will go but worth a shot. Maybe I'll be happy to come back!
    12-03-2015 05:18 PM
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