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  1. X-topher's Avatar
    we no longer have LinkedIn contact integration.
    yes you do linkedin settings sync contacts
    12-09-2015 03:16 PM
  2. garak0410's Avatar
    It certainly looks like an app that Microsoft should be targeting to get on the universal program...
    To be honest, ALL of the Amazon apps on Windows 10 (Universal) need updating...Audible isn't too bad though.
    12-09-2015 03:17 PM
  3. X-topher's Avatar
    For me Sky go & BT sport app will be missed, I thought I could just use edge in full webbie mode but mobile edge doesn't have Silverlight or flash player support...
    12-09-2015 03:27 PM
  4. saulgould13's Avatar
    Man! Remember those flip phone days how did we get by?? Hahaha
    12-09-2015 04:28 PM
  5. MikeLip's Avatar
    You'll get used to it :D it's okay to use anything that just works. I have the same problem, trying to stay with WM10, but what will be my next phone OS for me is really questionable. Hopefully Windows improves till then, I'm pretty positive though.

    And yes I think there is some sort of glance screen.
    No you don't get used to it. I have two Windows phones - Icon and 715. Great phones. I miss the apps. Especially a reliably working version of Kindle. Amazon hasn't updated it in YEARS, and it still mis-loads books half the time. Again, for YEARs. I could deal with most of the rest except for that. And the lack of Amazon Music. And of course I do have the Icon, so I know what it is to be burned by buying a flagship WP on Verizon.
    12-09-2015 07:16 PM
  6. garak0410's Avatar
    No you don't get used to it. I have two Windows phones - Icon and 715. Great phones. I miss the apps. Especially a reliably working version of Kindle. Amazon hasn't updated it in YEARS, and it still mis-loads books half the time. Again, for YEARs. I could deal with most of the rest except for that. And the lack of Amazon Music. And of course I do have the Icon, so I know what it is to be burned by buying a flagship WP on Verizon.
    Yes, as mentioned earlier, if only for the Amazon apps...they all can stand for a good update on Windows Phone...and yes, I do like Amazon Echo and the Alexa app is needed.
    12-09-2015 07:54 PM
  7. jhoff80's Avatar
    yes you do linkedin settings sync contacts
    Not in 10, it doesn't.
    xandros9 likes this.
    12-09-2015 08:44 PM
  8. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    No you don't get used to it. I have two Windows phones - Icon and 715. Great phones. I miss the apps. Especially a reliably working version of Kindle. Amazon hasn't updated it in YEARS, and it still mis-loads books half the time. Again, for YEARs. I could deal with most of the rest except for that. And the lack of Amazon Music. And of course I do have the Icon, so I know what it is to be burned by buying a flagship WP on Verizon.
    You do get used to it. Many of us aren't wrapped up in our phones and needing an app to do every little thing.

    When I don't have an app on windows, I look for alternates ans usually find them.
    Jeff Merritt1 likes this.
    12-09-2015 09:25 PM
  9. cracgor's Avatar
    You do get used to it. Many of us aren't wrapped up in our phones and needing an app to do every little thing.

    When I don't have an app on windows, I look for alternates ans usually find them.
    Wow! Just got used to it!
    12-09-2015 10:40 PM
  10. Jean Claude Lopez's Avatar
    There's a "huge" gap for you, but not for everyone. It has everything I need. But complaining about it won't change it. Microsoft can't force companies to make apps for WP. If it doesn't meet your needs, then go where it does. It still cracks me up that people act like their lives will come to an end if they don't have all of the apps that they "need". Seven years ago most of this didn't exist and yet somehow we survived without it. First world problems.
    Yes. Some people think it feels good the apps "are there" on iOS or Android. When it comes down to it, there's only about 10 apps that I constantly use, and the rest is for entertainment . My ten apps: Dropbox, Evernote, Note, Outlook, Music Player, Pocket Casts, Rhapsody, Netflix, LastPass, Facebook and Twitter. Let me check one last time: yep, all in WP. The rest is just gravy. And to make an even stronger point: if a company does not care enough about a segment of the users, that it would warrant an app for Windows Phone, it means Hasta La Vista Baby. I'm not sticking to a company that doesn't go the extra mile for my business. That means, Snapchat, take a hike.
    12-09-2015 10:54 PM
  11. Jeff Merritt1's Avatar
    Yes. Some people think it feels good the apps "are there" on iOS or Android. When it comes down to it, there's only about 10 apps that I constantly use, and the rest is for entertainment . My ten apps: Dropbox, Evernote, Note, Outlook, Music Player, Pocket Casts, Rhapsody, Netflix, LastPass, Facebook and Twitter. Let me check one last time: yep, all in WP. The rest is just gravy. And to make an even stronger point: if a company does not care enough about a segment of the users, that it would warrant an app for Windows Phone, it means Hasta La Vista Baby. I'm not sticking to a company that doesn't go the extra mile for my business. That means, Snapchat, take a hike.
    I can't really switch banks on a whim, I will admit losing Chase stung...however...the mobile site does nearly exactly the same stuff. Aside from taking a picture of a check for deposit...which I used, never. So I'm okay there. As I said earlier I am quite content with my 950, I had two weeks to return it, this is week three...guess I'm keeping it. Phones are a ridiculous status symbol to begin with, (people were vexing over the non-high-end look the 950's have...I think they look great personally) and I guess apps fall into that realm of status...as weird as that seems. So that instantly makes Win10 Mobile phones...low rent? I honestly have never used Snapchat (I'm 41) and I never will. I could care less. They won't develop an app for Win10 Mobile because he's mad at MS? LMAO. I'd rather be in the minority with a good quality base, than a majority with no major direction or understanding.
    Jean Claude Lopez likes this.
    12-10-2015 02:49 AM
  12. Magikal's Avatar
    It's not a real "app gap" situation here. The classic app gap situation is Symbian right now for example. Our "app gap" is slightly different - you have the basic apps available on other platforms (Viber, Messenger, Whatsapp, browsers & etcs), but you don't get the same basic functionality available in their android/ios counterparts.
    For example, Messenger. WP version is absolute crap. No screen rotation, buggy, sluggish, loading all the time, out of sync. Every new version changes nothing.
    Facebook - the same ...., different name. You get a week old *updates* (or maybe I should call them outdates) on your news feed and that never gets fixed.

    What about the ecosystem itself? Well there's been huge improvement compared to Windows 8, but overall we have had to wait for months to get a simple update. Some people've been waiting for a year to get the Denim update.
    And something very specific for the country I live in - Bulgaria. We have 2 different keyboard sets, the official one BDS (Bulgarian standart, developed back in the 50s with the typewriter machines & etc) and Phonetic (developed by some internet junkies when the IT era started). Back in Windows Phone 7, 7.5 and 7.8 we didn't even had a bulgarian keyboard, no matter how many requests have been made. Starting with Windows 8 they have added the PHONETIC one, which stays to that day, but didn't add the official BDS one. There's been thousands (literally) requests for adding the official BDS layout, both MS Bulgaria and Lumia Bulgaria, and they just don't respond. It's still not available on Windows 10 586.29.
    And it's just a keyboard layout for Christ' sake! 20 minutes of work for an experienced developer. These things are about to drive me out of Windows mobile.
    12-10-2015 02:59 AM
  13. Ten Four's Avatar
    And it's just a keyboard layout for Christ' sake! 20 minutes of work for an experienced developer. These things are about to drive me out of Windows mobile.
    Another example of how it isn't the mainstream apps that are the big problem, but the lack of specialized niche apps that directly impact you.
    12-10-2015 08:57 AM
  14. Daniel Frankovitch's Avatar
    I have, months ago. They have not responded. You can't seriously think that makes a difference though? I do it because I need to let them know that WP users are out there, but I'm not stupid enough to think that my email makes a difference in whether they create an app or not. Only market share and/or Microsoft can do that.

    Are people missing the point here? This isn't about this one app. It's about the situation overall. This is just one tiny example. I personally could list dozens more, as I'm sure could others.
    I love how people assume you haven't done anything at all before coming to the point where leaving WP makes more sense than staying.
    WP is in serious trouble, but so many of the fanboys see shrinking market share and the increasing lack or apps, or dev dropping the WP version of some app as a benefit of the WP platform.

    Between the fanboy water carriers and MS mismanagement, I fear WP is being allowed to die. It doesn't matter how good it is.
    MikeSo likes this.
    12-10-2015 10:43 AM
  15. Daniel Frankovitch's Avatar
    I could deal with the lack of apps, (many I had before the developers dropped them for WP) if we had a decent flagship on all carriers.
    I could keep using my 2013 WP device if the apps I needed were still on the platform.

    But to have such a significant lack of apps, combined with a 'flagship' device effectively limited to a single carrier (more precisely the tech is the limiter here, but by MS choose to limit it), I cannot see how people that can with away from WP don't.

    Loving the platform doesn't mean sticking with it regardless of the health of the platform. The lack of mainstream apps is not a benefit of the WP platform. Releasing a beta device with a beta OS is not how you demonstrate to the market that you are serious about WP and its future.

    I'm starting to believe that MS couldn't sell water to people dying of thirst.
    12-10-2015 10:54 AM
  16. MikeSo's Avatar
    Yes. Some people think it feels good the apps "are there" on iOS or Android. When it comes down to it, there's only about 10 apps that I constantly use, and the rest is for entertainment . My ten apps: Dropbox, Evernote, Note, Outlook, Music Player, Pocket Casts, Rhapsody, Netflix, LastPass, Facebook and Twitter. Let me check one last time: yep, all in WP. The rest is just gravy. And to make an even stronger point: if a company does not care enough about a segment of the users, that it would warrant an app for Windows Phone, it means Hasta La Vista Baby. I'm not sticking to a company that doesn't go the extra mile for my business. That means, Snapchat, take a hike.
    To me, it's not that it "feels good" that the apps are there on Android, it's that at this point it's getting harder and harder to justify buying a new W10M phone that from the outset is crippled compared to competitors. I did it with Lumia 900, but hoped things would get better app wise. I did it with the Lumia Icon, and hoped that the situation would get better. I just can't make myself do the same with the 950, until I SEE that the situation is better. Like you, I got by. I chose companies that had WP apps. I emailed every developer and every company that didn't. I used apps or mobile websites with fewer features. But I'm tired of always saying "no, I can't do that, I have a Windows Phone", in exchange for the rarer and rarer times when I can say something that my phone can do that others can't (pretty much never now).

    I've done my part long enough. Now I'll let Microsoft do their part and I'll happily return full time when they get W10M together. I think they will eventually.
    theefman likes this.
    12-10-2015 11:00 AM
  17. Daniel Frankovitch's Avatar
    And as an example of MS ruining the image of WP due to the complete lack of real effort my MS to bring more quality dev into WP.

    My 12 year old carries a Lumia 435 and an unactivated iPhone4s. The only reason she carries the two is because she sets up the 435 as a wifi hotspot so she can use the same apps as all of her friends on her circa 2013 iPhone via wifi.

    Dismiss it all you want, but when a new WP device that has the more capable hardware is being demoted to hotspot in favor of a nearly 3 year old iPhone, because the iPhone has app support; MS is failing.

    Just because people on a WP forum do not care about apps, doesn't mean they matter in the big picture. 3% of any market is basically nonexistent for hardware and software companies.

    To pretend otherwise is delusional.
    theefman likes this.
    12-10-2015 11:04 AM
  18. 920Walker's Avatar
    And as an example of MS ruining the image of WP due to the complete lack of real effort my MS to bring more quality dev into WP.

    My 12 year old carries a Lumia 435 and an unactivated iPhone4s. The only reason she carries the two is because she sets up the 435 as a wifi hotspot so she can use the same apps as all of her friends on her circa 2013 iPhone via wifi.

    Dismiss it all you want, but when a new WP device that has the more capable hardware is being demoted to hotspot in favor of a nearly 3 year old iPhone, because the iPhone has app support; MS is failing.

    Just because people on a WP forum do not care about apps, doesn't mean they matter in the big picture. 3% of any market is basically nonexistent for hardware and software companies.

    To pretend otherwise is delusional.
    why not activate the 4s?
    12-10-2015 12:10 PM
  19. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    For all those who have switched from Windows Phone to Android, is there anyone that can speak to an App that will duplicate how Cortana works hands-free and will automatically come in over my car speakers via Bluetooth to announce I have a text and who it's from, and if I want to read or ignore it? Including the functionality to reply and dictate back everything I said for approval before sending?

    The hands-free Bluetooth integration of Cortana is second to none-from what I've experienced & heard (so far) and seeing as I
    use my phone as a phone first and foremost, this is functionality I don't really see myself giving up over a few apps.

    I've searched hi & low but haven't found an Android solution that comes close yet. I've heard the Moto Assist / Moto Voice apps built into Moto phones can come close... is that true? But I've also heard they are getting rid of those apps with Android Marshmallow.

    If I could get this functionality on Android, I can see possibly switching over to gain access to the other apps I'd like to have in access to in Android. I'm currently using a Samsung ATIV SE as my daily driver (which I can update to WM10 via Insider thanks to some forum members hard work) and a Note 4 as a backup phablet device when I need to access the few apps not on WM yet.

    I'd prefer only having one device, but really hate to give up that hands-free Bluetooth phone functionality. Any and all info is truly appreciated!
    Last edited by PuckCowboy; 12-10-2015 at 03:06 PM.
    12-10-2015 12:34 PM
  20. TennisGuy45's Avatar
    So @PuckCowboy have you tried sayyyyyyyyyy the "Cortana" app for Android??????

    Its official now and might do what you want. This functionality is the absolute best thing about Windows Phone and when I have showed it to my iPhone friends they are very jealous.
    12-10-2015 03:32 PM
  21. MikeSo's Avatar
    I've searched hi & low but haven't found an Android solution that comes close yet. I've heard the Moto Assist / Moto Voice apps built into Moto phones can come close... is that true? But I've also heard they are getting rid of those apps with Android Marshmallow.
    Slightly off topic but: Moto Assist is still in Marshmallow, though some of the functionality has been removed since it's now in the OS. There's still both text-to-speech and speech-to-text for Driving Mode. Works pretty much like in Cortana, although Cortana provides a more "natural" interaction and the Moto voice is more robotic.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    12-10-2015 03:56 PM
  22. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    So @PuckCowboy have you tried sayyyyyyyyyy the "Cortana" app for Android??????

    Its official now and might do what you want. This functionality is the absolute best thing about Windows Phone and when I have showed it to my iPhone friends they are very jealous.
    Unfortunately, the Cortana Android app does not include this functionality, it is still fairly limited in that respect. I wasn't impressed with Cortana on Android since it's not integrated into the OS.

    I do agree that it's the best thing about Windows phone though. Hope all of that functionality is still there in WM10 (which I'll be testing on my phone soon.)
    12-10-2015 06:17 PM
  23. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    Slightly off topic but: Moto Assist is still in Marshmallow, though some of the functionality has been removed since it's now in the OS. There's still both text-to-speech and speech-to-text for Driving Mode. Works pretty much like in Cortana, although Cortana provides a more "natural" interaction and the Moto voice is more robotic.
    Not that far off topic at all, and I appreciate the info on it still being a part of Marshmallow. The Moto X Pure (or Droid Turbo 2) are two phones I've had my eye on for that reason alone. Do you own an Android Moto MikeSo? If so, I'd love to get your impressions of it and the OS (whichever is the most current version you are running.)
    12-10-2015 06:20 PM
  24. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Not that far off topic at all, and I appreciate the info on it still being a part of Marshmallow. The Moto X Pure (or Droid Turbo 2) are two phones I've had my eye on for that reason alone. Do you own an Android Moto MikeSo? If so, I'd love to get your impressions of it and the OS (whichever is the most current version you are running.)
    I have a Moto X Pure Edition. Do you have any other questions about it?
    12-10-2015 07:46 PM
  25. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    I have a Moto X Pure Edition. Do you have any other questions about it?
    Hey Laura, I do!

    1) What OS are you running on it and what network are you on?
    2) What Windows Phone did you come from & was it a tough transition?
    3) Do you use Moto Assist / Voice and how would you compare them to Cortana (assuming you used it on WP)
    4) Overall, how do you like the phone? Camera? Screen?
    5) Does it have Wireless Charging?

    Any and all info is truly appreciated!

    Thanks in advance!

    P.S. Feel free to PM me so as not to clutter up this thread with off-topic discussion.
    12-10-2015 07:50 PM
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