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  1. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Ok. So I am attempting to reply to a specific post, but for some reason the browser (Edge) or the site is just bumping me to the bottom.
    This is standard no matter what browser you use. Your post will be inserted in chronological order no matter where you click Reply.

    What you want is either the Quote button or left click - drag the cursor to highlight a portion and select Quote from the pop up.
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    01-25-2016 09:13 PM
  2. ajayden's Avatar
    It seems Nadella's philosophy of Mobile First Cloud First was not limited to Windows phones and OneDrive. As a strategy, I think it's great. "If you can't beat them, join them". There's nothing wrong with that, all companies are in it for profit. In this case, MS is unfortunately overlooking the needs of its first party customer base, or so it seems. Microsoft should now choose the customer base they really want to serve, and focus on that instead of trying to make everyone happy. Even Apple put its own productivity suite on the side to give priority to MS on iOS (and also OSX?), coz they know they are in the hardware business, and are focusing on exactly that.
    You answered the question perfectly. Yes, Apple is in the hardware business and Microsoft have always been in software & services business. So, it is perfectly alright for Microsoft to develop software or services for every platform possible.

    Also, they make tons of money from software and services. I feel it is perfect strategy to make tons of money from other OS / platforms.
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    01-25-2016 10:01 PM
  3. pericle's Avatar
    You answered the question perfectly. Yes, Apple is in the hardware business and Microsoft have always been in software & services business. So, it is perfectly alright for Microsoft to develop software or services for every platform possible.

    Also, they make tons of money from software and services. I feel it is perfect strategy to make tons of money from other OS / platforms.
    Okay, but what happens to Windows Mobile? I doubt it has ever made any money for MS and unlikely to do so in the future as well. Almost everything that used to be available only on Windows Phone is now available across all platforms. Sure MS will make a lot of money by putting their services across all platforms, but how is Windows Mobile going to survive without anything to differentiate it from the competition?
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    01-25-2016 11:59 PM
  4. Loco5150's Avatar
    Yes I agree 100%. Using Nokia was a way to use a current vehicle to get Windows Phones into users' hands. The question is, will they stay after trying it? A lot of them probably weren't even really aware of what they were getting into.

    I don't think that Nokia's Windows Phone "experiment" did Nokia's name any favors. I guess it remains to be seen to what extent it was affected, if Nokia does in fact release an Android phone.
    They might not been aware when they bought it, they though "oh the new Nokia Lumia" and got it. But they for sure knew it was that Windows Phone by the time they got rid of it. So many questions and a lot of talk why cant I get that or do this. Speaking from my experience what Ive seen around me and heard first hand.

    The craziest thing to me is that this topic is exactly the same as there was around WP7, then again around WP8. Exactly the same. There would have been no need to start this topic, someone could have just bump one of those and all previous comments would have been basically valid and issues the still same. After WP was launched I think 2010? In 5+ years and these resources that they spent this platform, it should have been already way more polished. Poor management is the cause of it. Well and lack of vision also of course.
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    01-26-2016 02:23 AM
  5. Joachim T's Avatar
    They sadly already gave up. I wanted a Lumia 950 or XL, but even Microsoft Austria was not able to give one to us for testing. I guess they did not want to, since it has now leaked that all development will be stopped for ARM based Windows. Original in Russian mobile-review dot com/articles/2016/armchair-analytics-59.shtml, Translation in German winfuture dot de/news,90746.html Most "leaks" of this website proofed to be true afterwards.

    Conclusion: wait for End of 2016 and get a x86 Surface Phone. The actual Lumias will go the way of Windows RT...dead on arrival :(
    01-26-2016 04:01 AM
  6. t0shibasz's Avatar
    My personal opinion is that they need to make some small changes within the UI in order to close the "difference in experience gap" with other OS's. Also that change is needed within app design guidelines, i.e app experience to be almost same between 3 platforms.

    For example I think they should add dock icons (I think dock icons is like start menu for the desktops), they should make grid app drawer cause I really done see any rational benefit of that long list. I like the the Live Tiles approach but I think that, smallest tiles should be replaced with original app icons with their original colors (that way they will be not boring).

    About the app design, my personal example is Telegram messenger. There is totally unnecessary design within the app on W mobile and iOS. (where W Desktop is more similar to the iOS)

    Also we must stop defending W mobile with the excuse that it is in early stages. W mobile is fighting for market share with Android 6.0 and iOS 9 and everything that comes out has to be on pair with functionalities and polished design to match that versions of the competitors. (sorry about the bad english)
    01-26-2016 04:04 AM
  7. ajayden's Avatar
    Okay, but what happens to Windows Mobile? I doubt it has ever made any money for MS and unlikely to do so in the future as well. Almost everything that used to be available only on Windows Phone is now available across all platforms. Sure MS will make a lot of money by putting their services across all platforms, but how is Windows Mobile going to survive without anything to differentiate it from the competition?
    LOL. MS has survived without windows mobile for this long and it will do so in the future too.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    01-26-2016 05:29 AM
  8. pericle's Avatar
    LOL. MS has survived without windows mobile for this long and it will do so in the future too.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    Where in my post did I say Microsoft is not going to survive? We all know Microsoft is going to be fine for many years to come. We are talking about whether Windows Mobile will still be around a few years from now or whether Microsoft has given up on Windows Mobile, which is what the OP was asking.
    01-26-2016 05:42 AM
  9. ajayden's Avatar
    but how is Windows Mobile going to survive without anything to differentiate it from the competition?
    I was replying to this.
    01-26-2016 07:48 AM
  10. satish006's Avatar
    Yes. Off course Microsoft giving up these days. Last 2 years was damn bad for WP users. In India every WP phone user faces problems because of their not clear cut concept on apps/game..i mean every where we WP user found problems like we can't send pdf through Bluetooth, can't have app like snap chat and many more like very needy applock..but they don't care too much about user..they have to make an event in Indian fast IT network cities and have to attract huge developers for future goal.

    Today because of their weak app support they are behind of Android and ios not because Nokia was sale out...
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    01-26-2016 08:10 AM
  11. wamone's Avatar
    It seems like they are. Even Joe Belfiore is using an iPhone. They should scrap Windows Phone and focus on tablet/desktop!
    01-26-2016 11:17 AM
  12. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    It seems like they are. Even Joe Belfiore is using an iPhone. They should scrap Windows Phone and focus on tablet/desktop!
    Source? Belfiore is on sabbatical, so I'm not sure how anyone would know what he's using or why it would matter. He's clearly not involved in current decisions.
    01-26-2016 11:45 AM
  13. pericle's Avatar
    Source? Belfiore is on sabbatical, so I'm not sure how anyone would know what he's using or why it would matter. He's clearly not involved in current decisions.
    Check the link below.

    http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/26/10...re-iphone-user

    Of course it doesn't really matter what he uses, though it does look bad on Windows Phone when even the people in charge of developing Windows Phone don't use it.
    xandros9 and Lord Method Man like this.
    01-26-2016 11:50 AM
  14. 511pf's Avatar
    That's just iVerge trolling Microsoft. Vlad, Nilay and Tom Warren are the chief trolls. That site's Microsoft and Apple coverage are both a complete joke. Shame too, because the rest of the site is actually pretty good.
    01-26-2016 11:59 AM
  15. pericle's Avatar
    That's just iVerge trolling Microsoft. Vlad, Nilay and Tom Warren are the chief trolls. That site's Microsoft and Apple coverage are both a complete joke. Shame too, because the rest of the site is actually pretty good.
    It's reported in many news outlets. It's not the Verge's fault that Joe Belfiore uses an iPhone. They are just reporting what happened.
    01-26-2016 12:03 PM
  16. Migi2015's Avatar
    When even Joe B is using an iPhone that tells you right there where the mobile war is. It's over, Apple won.
    01-26-2016 12:42 PM
  17. Migi2015's Avatar
    That's just iVerge trolling Microsoft. Vlad, Nilay and Tom Warren are the chief trolls. That site's Microsoft and Apple coverage are both a complete joke. Shame too, because the rest of the site is actually pretty good.
    Imagine if Johnny Ive was caught using a Lumia 950, The Verge would report that too. Of course we'd have to be living in an alternate universe for that to happen....
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    01-26-2016 12:43 PM
  18. sameersaab's Avatar
    Hiring Nadella was the worst move for Microsoft technologies and innovation. The guy thinks from a purely business angle, so has been making better apps and services for iphone and android, and leaving the phone in the dust. He has no faith or enthusiasm in phone or even xbox, rather takes the time to integrate iphone with everyhting. I heard the keyboard is better on iphone too! Microsoft should have produced a CEO from within the company that actually liked what they were doing.
    Jason Rosenthal likes this.
    01-26-2016 02:31 PM
  19. mattypaul's Avatar
    If anyone wants to add issues/instabilities/irregularities that you've experienced on a non-insider build of Windows 10 Mobile then you might as well add them here in the comments to help highlight these issues and our discontentment: answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mobiledevices/forum/mdlumia-mdw10phone/when-will-all-these-problems-with-windows-10/d7d820f1-9819-47a2-b425-bdfbe7033fde
    01-26-2016 04:53 PM
  20. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Hiring Nadella was the worst move...
    Microsoft should have produced a CEO from within the company...
    According to my Bing-Fu, Nadella has been with Microsoft since 1992.
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    01-26-2016 10:12 PM
  21. Migi2015's Avatar
    Honestly. why would anyone even consider buy a Windows Phone at this point unless all they care about is the camera?

    Even MS brings their best apps to iPhone first.
    01-28-2016 12:27 AM
  22. ajayden's Avatar
    Honestly. why would anyone even consider buy a Windows Phone at this point unless all they care about is the camera?

    Even MS brings their best apps to iPhone first.
    Because original mother is better than surrogate mother. Hope you understand what I am talking about.
    01-28-2016 01:37 AM
  23. pericle's Avatar
    Because original mother is better than surrogate mother. Hope you understand what I am talking about.
    That literally makes no sense whatsoever.
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    01-28-2016 01:44 AM
  24. rk23's Avatar
    Personally I want to see Microsoft's mobile platform grow and get more developer support. I have been with windows phone/mobile since the beginning (HTC Trophy 7 with WP7). However I am over the cr_p from Microsoft and their promises of "features coming in the near future" attitude. This has been a common theme with them since the beginning. WP 8.1 was great, but it started to get boring and the app problem still persisted. Win10 mobile was meant to be the saving grace for Microsoft, the "final" reboot of their mobile/phone OS that will continue to improve with time. However after using it for 1 month, i realized that its just not exciting for me. It wasn't just the bugs, but the inconsistencies in the GUI such as the weird and inconsistent menu buttons to the Edge browser that didn't render websites properly.

    I have made the switch to Android and I am very happy. I personally don't think i will be returning to Microsoft simply because i gave them 5 years of my life, money and support only to receive very little in return from them. I am over the frustrations, the inconsistencies and the failed promises. I dont think that is fair. Combined with that fact that Microsoft provide better software services to the Android and iOS platforms, I just do not see any good or valid reason as to why I should continue to stay with Windows mobile anymore.
    escobar and Timbre70 like this.
    01-28-2016 02:45 AM
  25. noobchief's Avatar
    I've been using Windows phone since I got my Focus when it first came out. I love the UI and the phones. I have a 950XL now. They keep pushing things to other platforms and seem unconcerned about issues in there own platform. I'm still unable to get the .36 update. Wordflow doesn't work in edge. Continual reboots. Etc.
    Will the frustration ever end?
    No
    01-28-2016 05:57 AM
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