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  1. justforsabbath's Avatar
    I think Windows Mobile 10 really has what it takes to be a great number 3 OS. I feel Microsoft is going wrong with its entire approach towards mobile strategy. Instead of looking to take on iOS and Android, they need to create a good healthy space for themselves. This can be done if they release fewer niche phones(Could be the Surface phones) and create an eco-system around them by creating exclusive apps that are unique to WM10. Hardware wise too they need to create something unique and I feel Camera department is where their expertise lies.

    W10M OS experience is great so far, you almost have all the essential apps required though not the latest updated one's but usable apps. The new Outlook email experience is great and gives you experience similar to Gmail. Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, Clients for Hangouts, Dropbox, Evernote, Office, Whatsapp, Uber, YouTube alternatives all are easily available. Soon expect new Facebook app to hit the Windows Store. Besides that, if MS can convince Google to release their Apps for W10M I see them create a good space for themselves in the Mobile industry.
    Last edited by justforsabbath; 04-25-2016 at 08:24 AM.
    04-25-2016 08:02 AM
  2. SFabio's Avatar
    AS what is going on by now, It wont die, just give ppl some time to release that they need what they have been using before smartphones, which is a PC, then when they can't do more and reach the top of other solution limits (IOS and Android) then they will sure move to Windows Phone, i can see smart ppl around me has started to make the step

    At the end, the majority of ppl using MS OS.
    04-25-2016 08:11 AM
  3. Jean Claude Lopez's Avatar
    For all intents and purposes WP is dead for the average punter. Maybe just maybe the corporate world will pick up WP and MS can end up with a miniscule market share but that is the best case scenario.
    Love my WP but lets face it, way to little, way to late. WP is a dead man walking.
    HD DVD died a quick death when it was in a far healthier state than WP currently is.
    Not exatly the same. HD DVD was a media format that died because it wasn't picked by major manufacturers such as Sony Playstation and Netlfix video rentals, etc. It's not the same. WP is a platform on its own, such as if I buy it, doesn't depend any other manufacturer to survive.
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    04-25-2016 08:31 AM
  4. cmucodemonkey's Avatar
    I think Windows Mobile 10 really has what it takes to be a great number 3 OS. I feel Microsoft is going wrong with its entire approach towards mobile strategy. Instead of looking to take on iOS and Android, they need to create a good healthy space for themselves. This can be done if they release fewer niche phones(Could be the Surface phones) and create an eco-system around them by creating exclusive apps that are unique to WM10. Hardware wise too they need to create something unique and I feel Camera department is where their expertise lies.

    W10M OS experience is great so far, you almost have all the essential apps required though not the latest updated one's but usable apps. The new Outlook email experience is great and gives you experience similar to Gmail. Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, Clients for Hangouts, Dropbox, Evernote, Office, Whatsapp, Uber, YouTube alternatives all are easily available. Soon expect new Facebook app to hit the Windows Store. Besides that, if MS can convince Google to release their Apps for W10M I see them create a good space for themselves in the Mobile industry.
    All the essential apps? "Essential" is a very subjective word. For example several large banks do not have mobile banking apps in the Windows Store yet and whenever you ask them about it their response is "Well, umm, yeah... its not something we are looking to do anytime soon..."
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    04-25-2016 08:38 AM
  5. Queen Kong1's Avatar
    It's not Microsoft they are updating , but more the Developers and Apps, like Snapchat!... For some people, they use a phone just to text/calls..Other it's Apps... these Apps are updated with new features like face book live, Hell if the official Facebook was released, that alone would help since it's prob the number one App. One thing i know, I'm sticking with my Lumia i have, and Android and not budging for 3 months, if nothing changed in Apps the Lumia goes in the draw and the Android comes out f/time since i don't like IOS Apple... So for me it's between Lumia or Android right now.. I am liking some of the new WP 10 features though like Messaging everywhere..
    Last edited by Queen Kong1; 04-25-2016 at 09:45 AM.
    04-25-2016 09:05 AM
  6. Sensonic's Avatar
    In other words.. now we play the "waiting game"
    My waiting game is almost over

    Last week I received an e-mail from Microsoft stating that they want to reduce my OneDrive cloud space capacity from 30Gb to 5 Gb.
    I've had Developer's account and been using Windows Phones since 2006 (staring from HTC TyTn II). Now it seems that there are no new exciting Windows phones with unbelievable specs coming up/out anymore and thus the future of the whole Windows Phone is looking very dark indeed.

    Google Drive still provides 15Gb of free cloud space capacity for free and there are great Android phones coming up (such as Zopo Speed 8) with reasonable prices so I think I'm gonna purchase that one and leave Windows Phone for good.

    That's a really tough and painful decision for me but like I said, Microsoft want to reduce my OneDrive cloud space capacity and there won't be any new "out of this world" Windows Phones coming up in the near future, so IMO the OS is dying very slowly

    If I remember correctly, Windows does have a patent for dual booting phones, i.e. Android and Windows on the same phone so that's what they should do ASAP! A phone like dual SIM cards but with dual OS. Then the purchasers could use Windows @ their work and Android @ their free time. Sounds reasonable?
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    04-25-2016 09:27 AM
  7. Queen Kong1's Avatar
    My waiting game is almost over

    Last week I received an e-mail from Microsoft stating that they want to reduce my OneDrive cloud space capacity from 30Gb to 5 Gb.
    I've had Developer's account and been using Windows Phones since 2006 (staring from HTC TyTn II). Now it seems that there are no new exciting Windows phones with unbelievable specs coming up/out anymore and thus the future of the whole Windows Phone is looking very dark indeed.

    Google Drive still provides 15Gb of free cloud space capacity for free and there are great Android phones coming up (such as Zopo Speed 8) with reasonable prices so I think I'm gonna purchase that one and leave Windows Phone for good.

    That's a really tough and painful decision for me but like I said, Microsoft want to reduce my OneDrive cloud space capacity and there won't be any new "out of this world" Windows Phones coming up in the near future, so IMO the OS is dying very slowly

    If I remember correctly, Windows does have a patent for dual booting phones, i.e. Android and Windows on the same phone so that's what they should do ASAP! A phone like dual SIM cards but with dual OS. Then the purchasers could use Windows @ their work and Android @ their free time. Sounds reasonable?
    Wasn't there a time limit to secure the GB though?, or you lose it. Id imagine a lot of people got caught out like that, I remember clicking the link just in time to keep the GB. The storage is very important with windows phone as i like Photo's backed up, so i can see how that wouldn't be such a good move by Msoft.
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    04-25-2016 09:53 AM
  8. ZoneofJhay's Avatar
    The irony though is that Microsoft is one of the most active in-terms of working on their software be it the desktop, mobile and tablet section. Yeah sure the hardware area for the mobile is on hiatus but its hard to say that MS is giving up on it when its software is just as actively being develop and improve like its desktop and tablet counterpart being that they are all united. Personally, I haven't own a Windows Phone(only desktops, laptops and a tablet) but I have a lot of hopes for Windows Mobile and will be picking one up as a secondary phone when things get rolling again for the mobile division.
    libra89, ven07 and ClixT like this.
    04-25-2016 10:15 AM
  9. kaktus1389's Avatar
    Just saying that today I got updates for all of the MS apps (Outlook Mail and Calendar, Office, Weather, Sports...). I'm on Insider fast ring, build .14328. It doesn't seem to be dying really with all of the updates of these
    04-25-2016 10:38 AM
  10. deezus's Avatar
    For me for now yes, it is dead. I held on for almost 6 years. Part of what killed it is MS themselves. I have had 2 phones for a long time for business, both used to be WP. I had to have SquareUp, so last year I went to an IPhone for work. I bought the 950 sight unseen. Had nothing but hardware issues with it. The only thing that ws keeping me clinging to WM was the camera, which almost all flagships have caught up to or surpassed. The other was Zune software. For some unknown reason, instead of keeping Zune and all its features and just rebrand it, just cannot understand it and have never been given any reason why. Not only did their "New" music software totally screw up my music collection, see windows 8 forced cloud matching service, they broke something that was already fixed. So after my second 950 had a screen wont respond issue, ATT is sending me an S6 no charge for which im very grateful. IMO, if the rumored Surface phone doesn't run android apps it will be DOA as a phone. Its really sad about zune, now I'm gonna have to figure out a new Music service, I was thinking of Spotify premium and Amazon for purchases. Oh yea, one more thing, Groove music still wont let me DL some songs I own on playlists to my IPhone!!! Garbage....
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    04-25-2016 10:43 AM
  11. dodi779's Avatar
    of course this is the reaction of most people, but then again if you give it some time, relax and make some clear thoughts of the happennings, you have to see all the things they try to get us satisfied. More precise I believe we are talking about the app gap, numerous attempts have been made by MS to sort the problem out. the only thing most people are interested in, is to see the end results RIGHT NOW. unfortunetely it is not happening, and we are still left out of the game.

    I believe one of these attempts will finally make it through, and at some point and time we will be an equal competitor for Apple and Android.

    BTW, MS made the android apps running on WP, but apperaently this was never used officialy, but in reality the apps are running in develop mode with one small change in the settings - plus you can only install apps from PC connected to your mobile.

    another example of their efforts is Xamarin - one developer tool for android, ios and win -, and I believe we could name a lot of more positive things, but fact is... we still got no apps.

    my problem is, i love the interface too much, I can see a lot going on within MS to make us happy, and I can only hope that we'll really make it sooner than later. I'm not leaving behind what I love the most about this phone - live tiles :D

    good luck with any other os, maybe you get back to MS stuff when things are running
    04-25-2016 11:09 AM
  12. cracgor's Avatar
    the only thing most people are interested in, is to see the end results RIGHT NOW. unfortunetely it is not happening, and we are still left out of the game.
    Above regarding ending the app gap.

    The only problem for me with this patience argument is that windows mobile is 16 years old and I personally have been waiting for the app gap to close for 6 years which is not impatient.

    For me it wasn't the app gap that caused my dissatisfaction. It really was my need of a new phone now (broken phone had to be replaced) and a bad experience with w10m and the 950xl. It was hard to see things get much worse and then to wait for things to improve with no way to know if that meant waiting weeks or years.
    04-25-2016 11:28 AM
  13. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Do you mind posting a printscreen? :)

    I need some ideas to improve mine
    I don't have a current one posted. Keep in mind that screenshots never look as good as when you're looking on a 1440x2560 amoled screen. Below is a link to a thread here, keep in mind these are from different versions of phones. But it shows how much customization can be done.

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...ckgrounds.html

    Here's one that an MS employee did.

    image3.jpg

    Another one by same person

    image2.jpg

    And a few from a reddit thread in one shot

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    Here's mine. It's sort of plain for what I usually do. But at this moment i want everything on my start screen and don't want to bother going to all apps.

    I had a better one before this but had to start all over after a reset. And now that I'm on redstone due to the possibility of requiring resets I haven't put as much effort in hehe.

    2016-25-4-11-48-28.jpg
    Last edited by Krystianpants; 04-25-2016 at 11:52 AM.
    04-25-2016 11:37 AM
  14. Sensonic's Avatar
    Wasn't there a time limit to secure the GB though?, or you lose it. Id imagine a lot of people got caught out like that, I remember clicking the link just in time to keep the GB. The storage is very important with windows phone as i like Photo's backed up, so i can see how that wouldn't be such a good move by Msoft.
    Nope, I didn't receive any email about it. Or how should've I known about it? Thru grapevine???
    04-25-2016 12:25 PM
  15. cracgor's Avatar
    Nope, I didn't receive any email about it. Or how should've I known about it? Thru grapevine???
    Exactly. The only place I saw it was on windows central. No email notice...nothing.
    04-25-2016 12:38 PM
  16. spinr0k's Avatar
    If Verizon has any say in it... Yes. Just try buying one at a local Verizon store, the one they have on display is hidden against the back wall out of sight.

    I am holding onto my Icon for as long as I can, I am not holding my breath for w10 making it to Verizon anytime soon.
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    04-25-2016 01:03 PM
  17. LLAmos's Avatar
    I switched, resultantly, from BB10 (the Passport) after my sixth device. I was ready to just tolerate it.

    And I love it. I didn't realize how much more I could do when my phone and laptop were all "talking to one another."

    Tag a website in Edge on my laptop and there it is on my phone. Be typing away on my laptop, listening to music with my headphones on and a call or text comes in? An on-screen notice pops up and I can reply to the text on my laptop without digging out my phone. No more Documents to Go--just compatible versions of the software I need to make my world go.

    Any more, I can't take posts or articles seriously that start with a noun, a verb and "that tech is dead."

    Enough already.
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    04-25-2016 01:07 PM
  18. Martin Oscar Caballero Sartor's Avatar
    My guess is that MSFT is still trying to make it a viable mobile platform, but their goal is to use the mobile OS as a complement for XBOX and PC. like, "hey, you can run your apps on your phone too". I don't think they care about the mobile market but only as a way to pump adoption in the desktop and to sell XBOX consoles. Of course, if W10M and Windows phones ever become a massive hit they won't complain.

    Is Windows Mobile really dying? I think they don't expect to take the #1 spot but as long as profit numbers don't turn red they will keep the system alive. Pulling the plug on the mobile system (or MS's own mobile phones division) would hurt Windows 10 as a whole.
    04-25-2016 01:20 PM
  19. dbam987's Avatar
    I've been using a Lumia 735 every now and then and its a good, solid phone. What applications are people missing out on for the Windows Phone / Mobile platform? The only applications I'm waiting on now are the two banking applications I'd like to see. One of which is soon to roll out in the next month or two (Bank of America).
    04-25-2016 01:25 PM
  20. ArtificiallyYours's Avatar
    I switched, resultantly, from BB10 (the Passport) after my sixth device. I was ready to just tolerate it.

    And I love it. I didn't realize how much more I could do when my phone and laptop were all "talking to one another."

    Tag a website in Edge on my laptop and there it is on my phone. Be typing away on my laptop, listening to music with my headphones on and a call or text comes in? An on-screen notice pops up and I can reply to the text on my laptop without digging out my phone. No more Documents to Go--just compatible versions of the software I need to make my world go.

    Any more, I can't take posts or articles seriously that start with a noun, a verb and "that tech is dead."

    Enough already.
    I think Microsoft taking risks is a good thing for the company even if it yields controversy, at least Microsoft is willing to send out multiple test builds instead of letting one entire upgrade get pushed out the door without further acknowledgement months later, which is an issue I've noticed with bugged Android firmware on budget devices (Samsung Galaxy Centura, LG Optimus Dynamic II, etc.).
    04-25-2016 02:06 PM
  21. Sensonic's Avatar
    IMO it's a commercial suicide not to bring in new phone models within 0.5-1.0 years. People will go to Android or iPhone and forget the whole Windows Phone because it's not in publicity all the time. How to win back those "used to be a loyal Windows Phone customer" after Microsoft will activate their phone division again? They have sacked many Finnish employees who have been developing Windows Phone so doesn't look very promising though...
    04-25-2016 02:23 PM
  22. ven07's Avatar
    Nope, I didn't receive any email about it. Or how should've I known about it? Thru grapevine???
    Don't hijack the thread guys :p there was a different thread on this very same issue. Even if you did miss the first mail' I'm surprised you didn't get the second one offering 1TB with a 365 account for free (one year) (valid credit card needed)

    Maybe you could send them an email?
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    04-25-2016 02:52 PM
  23. luxnws's Avatar
    IMO it's a commercial suicide not to bring in new phone models within 0.5-1.0 years. People will go to Android or iPhone and forget the whole Windows Phone because it's not in publicity all the time. How to win back those "used to be a loyal Windows Phone customer" after Microsoft will activate their phone division again? They have sacked many Finnish employees who have been developing Windows Phone so doesn't look very promising though...
    The best case scenario for Microsoft is if Intel makes an x86 cpu for mobile which is just as powerful and energy efficient as ARM chips so we can run all existing Windows programs on a hand-held computer that happens to have a phone in it. It would run Windows 10 and the kludged W10M could be dumped.

    Too bad Intel isn't likely to make such a cpu or chipset within the next five years.
    04-25-2016 02:56 PM
  24. NaveenD's Avatar
    In my opinion, Yes.. Windows Mobile really dying. Don't get me wrong, I really love windows phone.. but buggy OS and app gap are the main reasons for this conclusion.
    04-25-2016 03:03 PM
  25. ven07's Avatar
    In my opinion, Yes.. Windows Mobile really dying. Don't get me wrong, I really love windows phone.. but buggy OS and app gap are the main reasons for this conclusion.
    Buggy OS? which build are you on? just wondering
    04-25-2016 03:36 PM
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