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  1. swanlee's Avatar
    I don't care if it is dead or not as long as MS continues to support it. And if Win 10 and beyond push on multiple devices is really their long term goal then their will always be a windows type phone.

    I cannot deal with IOS or Android. The OS's are completely useless grids of icons. I cannot believe in 2016 people find it acceptable that their mobile OS's don't do Jack S* except launch apps and in the IOS case is barely customizable. I'll Give android some props for having a few Live tile Win 8 style Shell launchers but Vanilla Android is crap.

    Their is much more movement in the mobile space to OS integrations instead of having an app for each feature and I could not see myself move from the informative and useful live tile interface to static outdated row of icons.

    So as long as MS keeps making a mobile OS based on windows I will want one even if their are only 5 Windows phones owners still around.
    kaktus1389, negative1ne and wmuser like this.
    04-26-2016 01:20 PM
  2. swanlee's Avatar
    I hate to break it to you but windows phone as a competing platform is dead and any hope for a 3rd os is as well. Its apps my friend, have you seen the Google play and ios app stores? I bet even Amazon has a better app store.
    The world is moving away from separate apps for each function, and I'm glad it is silly to open separate apps for each little thing you want to do.
    CherokeeTX, anthonyng and wmuser like this.
    04-26-2016 01:24 PM
  3. cracgor's Avatar
    I cannot deal with IOS or Android. The OS's are completely useless grids of row of icons. Their is much more movement in the mobile space to OS integrations instead of having an app for each feature and I could not see myself move from the informative and useful live tile interface to static outdated row of icons.
    Even Microsoft is moving away from integrating things into the OS toward an appcentric model. The biggest example is the move away from the People Hub (where all of my twitter, facebook, messaging, and skype feeds/messages were rolled into one fantastic place) to separate apps for all of them. I think it is driven by the app companies and I can't blame them for wanting to keep a unified experience across their own apps and ensuring their add revenues flow normally.

    Also Windows Mobile continues to move toward square static icons with numbers next to them just like the other OSes.



    The heart of what used to be Windows phone is kind of dead to me.
    Jason Rosenthal likes this.
    04-26-2016 01:38 PM
  4. Leonel Funes's Avatar
    04-26-2016 03:41 PM
  5. kaktus1389's Avatar
    Lol you beat me to it, I was just about to post the link but then figured you already posted it. Thanks
    Leonel Funes and ven07 like this.
    04-26-2016 03:44 PM
  6. Leonel Funes's Avatar
    Lol you beat me to it, I was just about to post the link but then figured you already posted it. Thanks
    I was on the site, saw the article and the discussion under it! Next time it's your turn
    ven07 likes this.
    04-26-2016 03:49 PM
  7. ckeledjian's Avatar
    Continuum is not simply a gimmick. Most people will rarely use it, until all Windows PCs accept phone connections, and even then I don't expect it to be a killer feature. The reason Continuum is important in Windows Mobile is to support the idea of UWP apps. When the same app code adapts from a 5 inch screen with touch to a 20 inch screen with mouse and the same app runs on a PC, then that's significant because all the new generation Windows apps will be UWP and therefore run in Windows Mobile, Xbox and HoloLens, making the Windows ecosystem the most complete, versatile, cohesive and integrated. Microsoft needs to focus 120% into making UWP apps easy to create and get profits from, and this will make any Windows 10 device the most powerful tool to have.
    04-26-2016 04:22 PM
  8. Vmartinez39's Avatar
    I actually considered switching to Windows Phone when 8.1 first released. Actually I still loved it when Nokia was still making the phones. Not anymore.
    04-26-2016 04:47 PM
  9. RumoredNow's Avatar
    No, it's an official build, installed on L1520. When this or other problems happen I turn the phone off and on and it's usable again. Before I could think that WP8.1 isn't popular, but at least it works well for me, now that is not true either. Unpopular and buggy, what a treat.
    Did you ever do a Reset after upgrade? I did and I'm not having issues on my 1520 such as you mention...
    ven07 and aximtreo like this.
    04-26-2016 07:38 PM
  10. Shel Dyck's Avatar
    it's just pining for the fjords
    RumoredNow and aximtreo like this.
    04-26-2016 08:48 PM
  11. ShashankDogra's Avatar
    Its clear, that Microsoft is Taking advantage of the Fans and the "Insider" Beta testing to the fullest. They are Sort of making some money out of the fans who are volunteering and testing in Beta in the most number use case scenarios possible. And We can see and observe with the latest builds how that game is coming along.

    There is a huge Gap that Microsoft has to bridge in order to compete with Android and iOS, and the Gap keeps increasing as they keep pushing new innovations as well.
    I Believe as a Company, and on Business stand point of view, it'll be unwise to Risk High budgets on Marketing on something unfinished, on something which is not a Game Changer. We all know, Its not a compelling reason yet for anyone to switch from an i Phone to a Lumia 950. It just isn't.
    Its this Gestation strategy of Windows Phone development right now, where its growing under incubation of constant testing and development. Its not rigorous and we know a Company like Microsoft who has such a huge product line, they won't just be dumb enough to dedicate all there time and resources to a Product line which hardly makes 2% of the market share worldwide.

    To sum it up, Windows 10 Mobile isn't dying, its just like a baby in a womb, getting healthier and bigger, fuller and adding more life to itself before it takes on the Real world. And then when we have an OS and Hardware combo, with enough developer support, then there is a point to dedicate marketing over the phone, then we need banners and posters all throughout the Subway station and 59th Columbus Circle New York, then We need to see the Microsoft logo on the Empire State building and a good demonstration of how marketing can be done, and outdone.
    04-26-2016 08:48 PM
  12. btbam91's Avatar
    yep
    04-26-2016 09:10 PM
  13. Prince Pusey's Avatar
    From the releases of the 950 and the xl, its been a down hill for them. They admit that mobile isn't their focus at the moment, and that moment has been nearly a year or more. I have become fed up with their bugs, and limited apps. I will be leaving sooner or later.... there isn't much hope cause all they have is promises....sigh R.I.P
    rudikent likes this.
    04-26-2016 10:04 PM
  14. ven07's Avatar
    From the releases of the 950 and the xl, its been a down hill for them. They admit that mobile isn't their focus at the moment, and that moment has been nearly a year or more. I have become fed up with their bugs, and limited apps. I will be leaving sooner or later.... there isn't much hope cause all they have is promises....sigh R.I.P
    Ehm ok
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    04-26-2016 10:09 PM
  15. TrueMetalGeek's Avatar
    Even Microsoft is moving away from integrating things into the OS toward an appcentric model. The biggest example is the move away from the People Hub (where all of my twitter, facebook, messaging, and skype feeds/messages were rolled into one fantastic place) to separate apps for all of them. I think it is driven by the app companies and I can't blame them for wanting to keep a unified experience across their own apps and ensuring their add revenues flow normally.

    Also Windows Mobile continues to move toward square static icons with numbers next to them just like the other OSes.

    https://ideasaldente.files.wordpress...ee-screens.png

    The heart of what used to be Windows phone is kind of dead to me.
    I don't think they are moving to "static" icons.
    Also I think it is up to the developer to utilize the live tiles.
    On one hand it sucks that Microsoft has to make the Facebook app since Facebook Inc does not make one but I do like how Microsoft made it possible to make a LIVE TILE for each group you pin to the desktop.


    Also, if that is your home screen layout... no wonder you get little live tile info. So many tiny sized icons and many are pushed into groupings.
    That will kill the live tile experience.

    BTW, I hope that is KING JAMES Bible on your home screen. :-)
    04-26-2016 10:57 PM
  16. RumoredNow's Avatar
    it's just pining for the fjords

    won-internet.jpg



    And now for something completely different...

    ven07 and aximtreo like this.
    04-26-2016 11:03 PM
  17. pechio's Avatar
    With my 928 I Was forced out of the ecosystem.
    04-26-2016 11:07 PM
  18. sf49ers's Avatar
    Its already dead by few years now, windows mobile 7 was the time for it to shine but it botched. Now there is no void left to be filled by other two OSes, its too little and too late for msft. it lost partners, developers, mindshare and the userbase. Let alone mobile now a days people(also developers) care little about windows desktop. Msft may even soon write off $7billion it paid to acquire Nokia.
    04-26-2016 11:53 PM
  19. Mike Semblance's Avatar
    We just bought Ten 950XL's at my job, with 20 Wireless display adapters, (one for work, one for home) We use remote desktops for any old fashioned x86 apps that we need. I could see someone saying Windows Phone is dying last year, but with Continuum, its a rebirth!
    04-27-2016 01:17 AM
  20. ven07's Avatar
    Its already dead by few years now, windows mobile 7 was the time for it to shine but it botched. Now there is no void left to be filled by other two OSes, its too little and too late for msft. it lost partners, developers, mindshare and the userbase. Let alone mobile now a days people(also developers) care little about windows desktop. Msft may even soon write off $7billion it paid to acquire Nokia.
    Dead by a few years, yet people still buy it? granted not many but they still do.. Dead by a few years but the platform is still here and didn't we receive an update for desktop as well as mobile? dead by a few years, but MS just committed to the Surface Phone and indicated that more phones by other OEM's are coming?

    Developers care less, but UWP apps are being released?

    Man if this what "dead by a few years" looks like, I'm stoked to see what alive "by a few years" would mean
    04-27-2016 01:22 AM
  21. Mindi B's Avatar
    To sum it up, Windows 10 Mobile isn't dying, its just like a baby in a womb, getting healthier and bigger, fuller and adding more life to itself before it takes on the Real world. And then when we have an OS and Hardware combo, with enough developer support, then there is a point to dedicate marketing over the phone, then we need banners and posters all throughout the Subway station and 59th Columbus Circle New York, then We need to see the Microsoft logo on the Empire State building and a good demonstration of how marketing can be done, and outdone.
    This has to be the biggest load of narrow minded in-denial fanboy garbage I've ever read on this forum. And there's a LOT on here.

    What you've written above proves clearly that you have absolutely NO IDEA what is going on in the mobile world as a whole, and why WP has failed, and why this thread and hundreds of others like it, continue to exist, be closed, and then be posted again and again and again.

    WP needs developer support and market interest (which go hand in hand) - plain and simple. No 5-part essays or mega-posts filled with ridiculous over-analysis and excuses. It is the simple reason why WP is now in free-fall.

    Right now, this platform continues to exist as a test bed - and you are all the subjects. Nothing more than that.
    Player Piano likes this.
    04-27-2016 01:59 AM
  22. Tsarli's Avatar
    Man if this what "dead by a few years" looks like, I'm stoked to see what alive "by a few years" would mean
    Blackberry.
    04-27-2016 02:02 AM
  23. jlabelle's Avatar
    I understand if you didn't comprehend my post. I do not really feel like reexplaining the same words.
    It seems YOU do not understand mine. Have a nice day.
    04-27-2016 02:13 AM
  24. jlabelle's Avatar
    is it really though? I've been using the 1520 for 2 days now and I can't stand looking at the 950XL's warmer/yellowish screen.. Before I didn't notice it since I was using the 1020, which has similar problems.
    Non sense. Lumia 950 has one of the more color accurate display of the entire mobile phone world in line with the Samsung S6 and S7 : Microsoft Lumia 950 Benchmarks

    And if it happens that you do not like accurate colors and want something more saturated or a different white balance or hue, just go in the settings and modify to your liking.
    You can change it in the Settings the color profile : choose Advanced and you can change 1/ white balance, 2/ hue, 3/ saturation.

    I do not know if Android are so flexible and iPhone obviously does not offer at all those kind of customization.
    04-27-2016 02:24 AM
  25. jlabelle's Avatar
    All the rest of the stuff still holds true.
    Again, that is not true. You do not NEED a mouse or a keyboard. The phone acts as a giant trackpad and when you click a field, the keyboard pop-up.
    • To show slideshow of your pictures to your family, you do not need a keyboard / mouse
    • To connect your phone to any W10 PC at friend / family's home which have already a keyboard / mouse, you do not need to carry them
    To display a movie from Netflix or YouTube at the hotel, you do not need a keyboard and mouse

    You do realize that all TV's dont have a Miracast built in - so you still need to plug in the Miracast adapter (like Microsoft diaplay adapter) to the TV or monitor ?
    Well, all modern TV that I am aware of (LG, Sony, Samsung, ...) have pretty much all Miracast built-in. This is a standard.
    If you do not see the interest of Miracast, ask yourself what is the appeal of the Apple TV. And then multiply by 2 the type of possibilities that Continuum offer.
    04-27-2016 02:32 AM
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