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  1. halflifecrysis's Avatar
    I can't get Chace anymore. My friends use Snapchat and everyone is bonkers with Pokmon. No apps?
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    07-13-2016 07:10 PM
  2. xandros9's Avatar
    Windows 10 Mobile has what it has, and it doesn't have what it doesn't. Those included.
    07-13-2016 07:40 PM
  3. RumoredNow's Avatar
    This thread has been moved to an appropriate forum...

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    07-13-2016 09:32 PM
  4. onysi's Avatar
    will never leave windows phones but if theres a crazy thing going on like this, I have my cheap android phone. and then just use ur windows phone as a hotspot. u can also use those cheap ipod touch. the best part is; the android phone for me dies first due to GPS, camera augmentation, and animation of the game, that I am able to still have my phone full on charge. Hotspot doesn't drain my windows phone battery.
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    07-15-2016 02:17 AM
  5. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Monster hunter: World invasion is much cooler. It's a similar style to pokemon Go just without the pokemon part :P

    I never really understood the whole pokemon phenomenon. Even back when I was young in elementary and people were using chips to play pokemon. That intellectual property has sure survived the test of time.
    07-15-2016 08:31 AM
  6. mtf1380's Avatar
    I just found a game app: Sniper 3D Assassin: Shoot to Kill, and I think it's as good a quality app as I have ever seen on a phone.. KUDOS to the developer (It may turn me into a gamer.. LOL)
    07-15-2016 08:50 AM
  7. Witness's Avatar
    I can't get Chace anymore. My friends use Snapchat and everyone is bonkers with Pokmon. No apps?
    I'm pretty sure Chase will be back, much like how Wells Fargo and AMEX came back - hopefully. As for Snapchat, I really just don't get it. I have an iPhone, but no desire to even install it. Isn't it really just a wacky messaging app where you can also take photos with effects/filters? Then there's Pokemon... I'm carrying around the iPhone just because of that.
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    07-15-2016 01:14 PM
  8. thron's Avatar
    I'm relieved Pokemon isn't in the Windows Store, else I'd be visually assaulted with it everytime I open the store. Right now, it's one of the few safe places on the web from that dopey thing.
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    07-15-2016 06:01 PM
  9. xandros9's Avatar
    I'm relieved Pokemon isn't in the Windows Store, else I'd be visually assaulted with it everytime I open the store. Right now, it's one of the few safe places on the web from that dopey thing.
    You open the Store enough and care enough that a single image in a 2x1" scrolling banner visually assaults you?
    07-15-2016 06:19 PM
  10. thron's Avatar
    I do, actually. I have my apps set not to auto-update. I periodically check the store to see if there's any updates.
    07-15-2016 07:39 PM
  11. xandros9's Avatar
    I do, actually. I have my apps set not to auto-update. I periodically check the store to see if there's any updates.
    Yea, I do that too but I just have to head on over to the DL's and Updates tab though. I don't care for Plants vs. Zombies or Cloud Raiders so I just move on.
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    07-15-2016 08:13 PM
  12. Eddie Mendoza's Avatar
    yeah ive had over 10 friends leave the system over the last week because of lack of pokemon go - they even held off from snapchat but once pokemon go came out it was over
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    07-21-2016 01:22 PM
  13. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    MS store has over 350000 apps and because of less than 2 dozen apps people leave the platform?

    It will come to this I guess - have an OS that is frequently updated and optimised so it performs faster or go with an OS with a lot of apps but the OS slows down over time or go with an OS that is quite locked down and boring as many have said
    07-23-2016 06:27 AM
  14. TgeekB's Avatar
    A lot of apps are just fads (very popular ones) that come and go. I would rather have ones I use every day and for the long haul.
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    07-23-2016 07:17 AM
  15. Kimmo Toivanen's Avatar
    MS store has over 350000 apps and because of less than 2 dozen apps people leave the platform?
    If one of those 2 dozen apps is the one that user needs, then yes ;)

    Pokmon Go is burning me as well...
    07-23-2016 02:50 PM
  16. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    If one of those 2 dozen apps is the one that user needs, then yes ;)

    Pokmon Go is burning me as well...
    and you would move to another platform for that app and then realise you have to change a lot of habits to fit into the new ecosystem
    07-23-2016 02:57 PM
  17. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I'm relieved Pokemon isn't in the Windows Store, else I'd be visually assaulted with it everytime I open the store. Right now, it's one of the few safe places on the web from that dopey thing.
    So you basically want your favourite OS to die and become a business only venture because you don't want popular apps/games? Cool sounds logical.
    07-23-2016 03:16 PM
  18. TgeekB's Avatar
    and you would move to another platform for that app and then realise you have to change a lot of habits to fit into the new ecosystem
    Some people like to chase the latest fad or app. I think people need to decide what they really need and then pick the ecosystem that best fits those needs. That way you may miss a fad or two but will have the solid foundation you need.
    07-23-2016 03:17 PM
  19. thron's Avatar
    So you basically want your favourite OS to die and become a business only venture because you don't want popular apps/games? Cool sounds logical.
    If the OS dies over a fad game, apps are the least of Windows Phones' problems.
    One single app won't make or break Windows Mobile.
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    07-23-2016 04:36 PM
  20. Krystianpants's Avatar
    If the OS dies over a fad game, apps are the least of Windows Phones' problems.
    One single app won't make or break Windows Mobile.
    There are many people moving over to android as a result if you follow reddit.

    That's the whole point about being on a good ecosystem. Knowing that if something trendy comes out you can be a part of it. Even if the popularity fades, it's that time that you enjoyed it that matters.

    Take an app similar to snapchat called Egg. It's a more fun app. I got it on my iphone and though I don't use it much it's fun from time to time to make stupid vids and send them to friends and have friends send them to you. So yah I don't spend most of my time in that app, but that enjoyment is there no matter how long it lasts. You eat pizza you eventually finish it but it was enjoyable while eating it.
    07-23-2016 05:42 PM
  21. thron's Avatar
    Oh yeah, I've seen countless claims of people moving. But there were also people saying more of the same before Pokemon was released.
    Windows Phone was never an app-centric mobile operating system. It's no secret.

    I also seen people on Reddit say they "didn't know Microsoft made phones," too. (Outside of the windowsphone subreddit)

    The problem is much, much bigger than the app store.
    07-23-2016 06:13 PM
  22. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Oh yeah, I've seen countless claims of people moving. But there were also people saying more of the same before Pokemon was released.
    Windows Phone was never an app-centric mobile operating system. It's no secret.

    I also seen people on Reddit say they "didn't know Microsoft made phones," too. (Outside of the windowsphone subreddit)

    The problem is much, much bigger than the app store.
    You're missing the point. Apps are a huge factor. Did you read any reviews for the 950/950xl every single review would mention the app gap and would tell people not to buy because of that. That was one of the issues. A buggy OS didn't help either.

    Apps being released on windows phone is free advertisement as well. When an app is released it usually says "available on ios/android". Adding the "Windows mobile" already adds extra exposure. Blogs always write about "apps/games of the week". OS Availability is always mentioned and you never see windows mobile. No one really even notices though. It would stick out like a sore thumb if it was there. People would wonder what the heck is that?

    But yet when a game like pokemon doesn't make it to windows mobile, it's a big enough game that every blog has to take a swipe at windows mobile by mentioning it's not on there. They never mention it for other stuff but for this game it was on every tech blog.

    Advertising, more OEM involvement is also a big thing.

    This is also part of the reason why MS has said it won't focus on mobile till next year. They are trying to build an ecosystem first, perfect the OS and in the meantime design the hardware and draw more OEMs in. And only then can MS really focus on advertising and exposure. I think that with all those things in place MS could definitely increase its market share. Advertising alone accounts for a lot of user's choices. Add OEM advertising to that. And if the app gap problem isn't as big and we start seeing UWP pay off a year from now, then employees at these stores are less likely to get people away from Microsoft mobile.

    I think the problem with MS is that public miscommunication that makes people think that they are abandoning mobile This perception has a lot of people weary of investing in new phones. Even people who are fans. MS has always been the worst at communicating. Even saying something like "focusing on enterprise" gets people thinking they are abandoning consumer. But an enterprise phone still has to be a consumer phone just have extra features and integrate to full management solutions. The people using them for work are consumers. They need to be able to do everything a consumer phone would do but MORE. Enterprise is a great way to gain exposure. People who never knew what a windows phone was now get to try it out at work. Maybe even tell their friends about the cool features they discover. MS does look to be putting effort into more consumer apps, but the world is hearing something else due to bad wording. Hopefully with Satya's restructuring they may create a better system for communication between their PR and their internal teams.
    07-24-2016 09:02 AM
  23. cracgor's Avatar
    Some people like to chase the latest fad or app. I think people need to decide what they really need and then pick the ecosystem that best fits those needs. That way you may miss a fad or two but will have the solid foundation you need.
    I think everyone misses the point on social apps. My wife was running a summer camp. All of the kids got PokemonGo and would go out and play together. One of the kids had a Windows Phone and hated it because he couldn't play with the other kids. It is like getting the newest version of Madden Football or Mortal Kombat, then inviting your friends over and you have just one controller. No one wants to sit on the side line.

    Oh yeah, I've seen countless claims of people moving. But there were also people saying more of the same before Pokemon was released.
    Windows Phone was never an app-centric mobile operating system. It's no secret.

    I also seen people on Reddit say they "didn't know Microsoft made phones," too. (Outside of the windowsphone subreddit)

    The problem is much, much bigger than the app store.
    Windows Phone also used to be PeopleCentric, but what is it -centric to now? Cortana-centric?
    Last edited by xandros9; 07-24-2016 at 04:50 PM.
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    07-24-2016 10:39 AM
  24. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Windows Phone also used to be PeopleCentric, but what is it -centric to now? Cortana-centric?
    For me it always was and remains... Me-centric.

    The way the UI surfaces what I want out of a pocketable smart device is still what holds me here. I find the way it accomplishes things more efficient in bringing my information to me. Live Tiles are a huge plus. Notifications are working better than ever for me. The Start Screen has what I want on it and only what I want, at the informational level I choose.
    07-24-2016 01:26 PM
  25. cracgor's Avatar
    For me it always was and remains... Me-centric.

    The way the UI surfaces what I want out of a pocketable smart device is still what holds me here. I find the way it accomplishes things more efficient in bringing my information to me. Live Tiles are a huge plus. Notifications are working better than ever for me. The Start Screen has what I want on it and only what I want, at the informational level I choose.
    Ignoring the actual reasons it can't be this way, you prefer the current implementation over the original People Hub/Me Tile which linked all your social media posting and feeds into one location and allowed creating groups of people or just individual people tiles to follow? For me Notifications are still inferior to how they work on Android, though Microsoft is copying more from them. In the original situation, I remember thinking, "who needs notifications, live tiles show me all the same information as the notifications." Now I don't even think the live tiles work as well for this anymore, just because I have no way to clear the live tiles of useless information without opening the app.
    07-24-2016 03:33 PM
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