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  1. hack14u's Avatar
    But you can also pick one up for a hundred bucks or so US for the 640XL.
    Last edited by hack14u; 08-24-2016 at 08:01 PM.
    08-24-2016 07:46 PM
  2. jimmy s1's Avatar
    i agree, they should make rom's available for decent phones in the market, but that is not going to happen with 1% market share
    08-24-2016 11:52 PM
  3. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    its a low end phone but i am interested in this high end phone

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    I wonder how well the current Alcatel Fierce X windows Phone is doing saleswise? If it's not selling much or too many people are returning them, this would no doubt make Alcatel question their decision to release the Idol Pro 4.
    08-25-2016 09:13 AM
  4. 535dinesh's Avatar
    waiting for new Surface Phone... Hope all these rumours are true
    08-25-2016 09:25 AM
  5. RumoredNow's Avatar
    The side conversation about WhartonBrooks and Cerulean Mobile has been split off and moved: http://forums.windowscentral.com/cer...-out-blue.html
    libra89 and Laura Knotek like this.
    08-26-2016 02:58 PM
  6. WindowsPhoneFan's Avatar
    Microsoft bought Lumia and destroyed it! It is such a horrible shame, Nokia had the best designed phones, and Windows had the best UI....at least for a while!

    But I'm still hopeful they'll stop screwing up!
    08-27-2016 06:46 AM
  7. mgd 57's Avatar
    When in my local 02 store this week I was surprised to notice only 1 windows phone on display, the 650, (I think), the rep told me that only 11 Windows Phones sold this year in their store, 5 returned, all 950,s, so they have been officially withdrawn by them, he did say that Microsoft were bringing something out next year but didn't know what. If they do, they would need to raise the bar big time, if they want a flagship you build the best that's possible, not rocket science, I have the 950xl which while it's good, though very buggy, I prefer and use my Lumia 1520 which I find has an edge certainly camera wise and far superior build quality. The downfall for Microsoft was when they introduced bogof on the 950, that was the deathnell for them, anyone with half a brain at the head of the company knows that once you do that with your own products, your finished, quite literally all your doing is saying to the public, we've screwed up and we can't sell them, here you are!!! Crazy thing to do.
    I don't get Microsoft at all, but one thing I do know is, this could be the best platform out there, but as I've said so many times, with Microsoft at the helm it ain't going to work,, it will always be beta, they show no dedication to it's customer base at all, have a dreadful lack of understanding (in my opinion) of the current market and have a sticky plaster culture of sending out half baked updates, software, phones etc etc which in turn doesn't inspire confidence in them, or their products. No one to blame but themselves.
    All we can do is hold on and see who brings what to the table.
    RobertP1 likes this.
    08-27-2016 08:16 AM
  8. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    When in my local 02 store this week I was surprised to notice only 1 windows phone on display, the 650, (I think), the rep told me that only 11 Windows Phones sold this year in their store, 5 returned, all 950,s, so they have been officially withdrawn by them, he did say that Microsoft were bringing something out next year but didn't know what. If they do, they would need to raise the bar big time, if they want a flagship you build the best that's possible, not rocket science, I have the 950xl which while it's good, though very buggy, I prefer and use my Lumia 1520 which I find has an edge certainly camera wise and far superior build quality. The downfall for Microsoft was when they introduced bogof on the 950, that was the deathnell for them, anyone with half a brain at the head of the company knows that once you do that with your own products, your finished, quite literally all your doing is saying to the public, we've screwed up and we can't sell them, here you are!!! Crazy thing to do.
    I don't get Microsoft at all, but one thing I do know is, this could be the best platform out there, but as I've said so many times, with Microsoft at the helm it ain't going to work,, it will always be beta, they show no dedication to it's customer base at all, have a dreadful lack of understanding (in my opinion) of the current market and have a sticky plaster culture of sending out half baked updates, software, phones etc etc which in turn doesn't inspire confidence in them, or their products. No one to blame but themselves.
    All we can do is hold on and see who brings what to the table.
    I wonder if those who returned the 950s did so because they suddenly realized it didn't have the same app selection as the competition or they just didn't like the OS. Of course it could also be a combination of both.
    libra89 likes this.
    08-28-2016 10:12 PM
  9. Karl Vincent Alvarez's Avatar
    At least it's still within 2017 but damn... I hope they won't take THAT long (although I have no plans of replacing my Lumia 950 XL anytime soon, it's still a nice thing to see the W10M community reinvigorated)
    RumoredNow and RobertP1 like this.
    08-30-2016 08:34 AM
  10. Timbre70's Avatar
    Windows is Wait... Be patient.
    09-10-2016 02:01 AM
  11. Cabo Blue's Avatar
    "I wonder if those who returned the 950s did so because they suddenly realized it didn't have the same app selection as the competition or they just didn't like the OS. Of course it could also be a combination of both."

    I have a 1520 & a 640.
    My daily is 5SE.
    As I patiently waited for the apps to mirror at best what I experience on the
    IPhone I use, it never seemed to happen.
    On the consumer side of MS apps, this is a big thing to me.
    I am content with the performance of apps from the apple environment.
    I guess I put to much hope on the potential of MS apps catching up.

    I wonder if Gates & Allen could begin a development project aiming solely at creating an app environment they could provide to the company.
    libra89 likes this.
    09-11-2016 11:18 AM
  12. Guytronic's Avatar
    I wonder if Gates & Allen could begin a development project aiming solely at creating an app environment they could provide to the company.
    I doubt they even care frankly.

    Both those guys are out of it doing what they want these days.
    Gates and Allen have moved on I would say...
    libra89 likes this.
    09-11-2016 04:38 PM
  13. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    I doubt they even care frankly.

    Both those guys are out of it doing what they want these days.
    Gates and Allen have moved on I would say...
    Also what makes anyone think they would have any more success than the actual Microsoft itself?
    Guytronic likes this.
    09-11-2016 07:37 PM
  14. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    Perhaps they should make a hybrid Surface Phone with dual CPUs ie an ARM and an Intel one (If Intel had something suitable of course). That way, when used as a regular smartphone it's using ARM with it's power advantage, but when in continuum mode it becomes a full PC, in effect becoming a small Netbook. Each mode would have access to the app store so developers could still develop UWP apps that would work in both.
    kwright62 likes this.
    09-11-2016 10:30 PM
  15. etphoto's Avatar
    Probably already mentioned somewhere on WC but Mary Jo Foley of AllAbiutMicrosoftButIUseAndroid.com recently reported a leaked Oct Surface hardware announcement by MS. Some are speculating a Surface all in one device. Could include Surface Phone, idk

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    09-12-2016 09:33 AM
  16. RumoredNow's Avatar
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/mic...rface-aio.html

    Just sayn'.

    I don't expect Surface Phone until Spring 2017 to be honest.
    Guytronic and libra89 like this.
    09-12-2016 01:10 PM
  17. jfa1's Avatar
    The 650 is fairly new but its going to be the last Lumia. Its price has been dropped and its fairly cheap and a good looking phone.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    09-12-2016 02:46 PM
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