10-27-2016 12:38 PM
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  1. mmcpher's Avatar
    How old is the straw you are drinking through? Even if you were on Android or iOS but a couple of iterations back, everyone eventually tires of throwing more resources into backwards compatability in perpetuity. Still, Microsoft likes to punch itself in the face, so I suppose loyal customers should expect similar treatment. I could understand decisions like this to cut off and move on, if there were a reasonable degree of certainty that the move on, new direction would be followed to somewhere productive. All of this culling, the old line of phones, the layoffs, the poor abandoned Band, it just gives you a sense of the company as lurching and thrashing around rather than guided by a uniforming vision,
    10-25-2016 06:59 PM
  2. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The final straw... For Windows Phone 8.1? Because Windows 10 Mobile has been out officially for a year. It's expected that they'd stop supporting apps for an outdated operating system. The Skype team is focused on Windows 10 Mobile, not Windows Phone 8.1, or 7, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
    I'm getting that strange sensation you didn't read the article. Not only is WP8/8.1 being s**t-canned, so is Windows 10 Mobile for any device not on the AU. There are some devices that will never go beyond 1511. Particularly those that don't have access to Insider builds. That's just plain wrong.
    10-25-2016 07:35 PM
  3. fatclue_98's Avatar
    How old is the straw you are drinking through? Even if you were on Android or iOS but a couple of iterations back, everyone eventually tires of throwing more resources into backwards compatability in perpetuity. Still, Microsoft likes to punch itself in the face, so I suppose loyal customers should expect similar treatment. I could understand decisions like this to cut off and move on, if there were a reasonable degree of certainty that the move on, new direction would be followed to somewhere productive. All of this culling, the old line of phones, the layoffs, the poor abandoned Band, it just gives you a sense of the company as lurching and thrashing around rather than guided by a uniforming vision,

    See post #27, it applies to you too.
    10-25-2016 07:36 PM
  4. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    I'm getting that strange sensation you didn't read the article. Not only is WP8/8.1 being s**t-canned, so is Windows 10 Mobile for any device not on the AU. There are some devices that will never go beyond 1511. Particularly those that don't have access to Insider builds. That's just plain wrong.
    Your Spidey sensations are incorrect. I did read the article. Which is a first for me with MSPowerUser, because their "journalism" is a kin to my attempts to cook.

    Which models aren't upgradable past 1511? I assure you that market share is less than .4% of the .4% market share that is the total of Windows Phone/Mobile users.

    Seriously, the number is negligible. And yeah, getting burned on a purchase sucks. It happened to me with the Zune, the Surface 2, and now the Band 2. But guess what? It's really not personal. Business is business. Microsoft is doing what's best for the future of Windows 10 and Windows 10 Mobile. And if you're a fan of the platform, that should be good news.
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    10-25-2016 08:10 PM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    Your Spidey sensations are incorrect. I did read the article. Which is a first for me with MSPowerUser, because their "journalism" is a kin to my attempts to cook.

    Which models aren't upgradable past 1511? I assure you that market share is less than .4% of the .4% market share that is the total of Windows Phone/Mobile users.

    Seriously, the number is negligible. And yeah, getting burned on a purchase sucks. It happened to me with the Zune, the Surface 2, and now the Band 2. But guess what? It's really not personal. Business is business. Microsoft is doing what's best for the future of Windows 10 and Windows 10 Mobile. And if you're a fan of the platform, that should be good news.
    The many phones that have been hacked, coship moly x1, acer jade primo, blu win HD LTE. There are a few.

    Sent from mTalk
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    10-25-2016 09:05 PM
  6. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Which models aren't upgradable past 1511?
    Some of the very phones on sale at the Microsoft Store like the Acer Liquid series, Blu Win HD LTE, AT&T Lumia 640 and many more in Europe (Funker) and Asia (Coship, Vaio).
    libra89 and nwildcat like this.
    10-25-2016 11:17 PM
  7. Player Piano's Avatar
    The many phones that have been hacked, coship moly x1, acer jade primo, blu win HD LTE. There are a few.

    Sent from mTalk
    Can it really be true that the Jade Primo is no longer being supported?
    10-25-2016 11:19 PM
  8. Player Piano's Avatar
    Some of the very phones on sale at the Microsoft Store like the Acer Liquid series, Blu Win HD LTE, AT&T Lumia 640 and many more in Europe (Funker) and Asia (Coship, Vaio).
    Don't forget the T-Mobile Lumia 640 too.
    libra89 and fatclue_98 like this.
    10-25-2016 11:21 PM
  9. Skamath's Avatar
    You mean they were not already planning on another complete rewrite?!?!
    They might be for all you know. The device development might be in "space age" and all it takes is a chip in the head... and there goes MS all over again with its insider / outsider builds. They might even say that people with certain chips are not supported and EOL will be 3 years for some :D
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    10-26-2016 12:39 AM
  10. libra89's Avatar
    Can it really be true that the Jade Primo is no longer being supported?
    I think it is supported still but unfortunately, no way to get past the AU at all on it :(
    10-26-2016 06:15 AM
  11. Skamath's Avatar
    fatclue you thought that it might be the final straw,....This link might be. The last point in it might be it.
    10-26-2016 03:34 PM
  12. cracgor's Avatar
    Your Spidey sensations are incorrect. I did read the article. Which is a first for me with MSPowerUser, because their "journalism" is a kin to my attempts to cook.

    Which models aren't upgradable past 1511? I assure you that market share is less than .4% of the .4% market share that is the total of Windows Phone/Mobile users.

    Seriously, the number is negligible. And yeah, getting burned on a purchase sucks. It happened to me with the Zune, the Surface 2, and now the Band 2. But guess what? It's really not personal. Business is business. Microsoft is doing what's best for the future of Windows 10 and Windows 10 Mobile. And if you're a fan of the platform, that should be good news.
    People barely accept changing plugs because they aren't backward compatible. The fact is that even if backward compatibility is tough for a company, you can't sell a device and then drop support for a basic feature a year later and expect high user retention.

    I have read multiple people write, "as long as my core OS experience stays the same, I don't care about apps." Now the core OS isn't even supported on devices. Like you buy your $650 Acer Jade Primo and now you don't get Skype anymore.

    I lost my last straw awhile ago in mobile. The never finished service model is going to be my final straw with the regular OS.
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    10-26-2016 05:47 PM
  13. werner6769's Avatar
    People barely accept changing plugs because they aren't backward compatible. The fact is that even if backward compatibility is tough for a company, you can't sell a device and then drop support for a basic feature a year later and expect high user retention.

    I have read multiple people write, "as long as my core OS experience stays the same, I don't care about apps." Now the core OS isn't even supported on devices. Like you buy your $650 Acer Jade Primo and now you don't get Skype anymore.

    I lost my last straw awhile ago in mobile. The never finished service model is going to be my final straw with the regular OS.
    How is it that the Acer Jade Primo is not supported? Did it not come with Windows 10m out of the box?
    10-26-2016 07:18 PM
  14. libra89's Avatar
    How is it that the Acer Jade Primo is not supported? Did it not come with Windows 10m out of the box?
    It does, but it hasn't been updated past AU, which some apps, including Skype have stopped supporting for.
    10-26-2016 07:36 PM
  15. werner6769's Avatar
    I hope I'm right in assuming such a new device will get the AU in the next few months. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
    10-26-2016 08:40 PM
  16. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    It does, but it hasn't been updated past AU, which some apps, including Skype have stopped supporting for.
    AU, I assume you are on about version 1607 right? I thought Skype supported this version still?
    10-26-2016 08:41 PM
  17. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    It does, but it hasn't been updated past AU, which some apps, including Skype have stopped supporting for.
    You say it hasn't been updated past AU? or do you mean 1511?
    10-26-2016 08:43 PM
  18. libra89's Avatar
    You say it hasn't been updated past AU? or do you mean 1511?
    Yep, AU. Windows Central has mentioned this recently, and there are some threads in that forum about this. I don't remember the exact number of the August update :/ I do know that it isn't alone in not being updated.
    10-26-2016 08:45 PM
  19. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    Yep, AU. Windows Central has mentioned this recently, and there are some threads in that forum about this. I don't remember the exact number of the August update :/ I do know that it isn't alone in not being updated.
    I wonder if this may be the reason it's going for 199 in the UK now ie they may be looking to discontinue it as even for a promotion that's a steep drop.
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    10-26-2016 08:53 PM
  20. werner6769's Avatar
    Just noticed that Skype is back in the store for wp8. I did a search for it just to be sure it was gone on my Huawei w1. It is Version 2.27.0.20 updated 2016-10-19. A mistake maybe, or are they backtracking?
    10-27-2016 12:20 AM
  21. xandros9's Avatar
    Just noticed that Skype is back in the store for wp8. I did a search for it just to be sure it was gone on my Huawei w1. It is Version 2.27.0.20 updated 2016-10-19. A mistake maybe, or are they backtracking?
    It's time will come.
    10-27-2016 12:38 PM
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