03-22-2017 10:24 PM
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  1. Faisal Islam2's Avatar
    When we talk about windows mobile failure, first thing comes to our mind is lack of apps! its not only lack of apps but also some reporters & tech bloggers responsible, they are so expert in bullying, they talk negative, write negative about windows mobile platform! All their negative reviews, comments force people to stay away from windows mobile! Even Microsoft afraid to do brave thing with its mobile platform! Microsoft do less marketing because of those tech reporters & bloggers who secretly licking android & iPhones ***
    02-07-2017 02:03 PM
  2. Rosebank's Avatar
    Even Microsoft afraid to do brave thing with its mobile platform! ***
    So its All your fault then?
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    02-07-2017 02:10 PM
  3. Faisal Islam2's Avatar
    No its not! This tech bloggers reporters negative reviews impact on developers mind and developers lose their interest for developing apps for windows mobile! Basically negative marketing responsible for windows mobile failure
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    02-07-2017 02:12 PM
  4. theefman's Avatar
    Doubtful a review would have had the kind of impact you suggest.
    02-07-2017 02:46 PM
  5. Guytronic's Avatar
    Microsoft do less marketing because of those tech reporters & bloggers who secretly licking android & iPhones
    Well tech-bloggers simply use what works for them.

    Failure usually is generated from within.
    Microsoft has had more than their share of forgotten failures so I think the company is used to bad decisions just going away.

    What I see is a foggy roadmap teamed with over confidence believing that many should follow blindly.
    Same deal could lead to a steep decline for iOS eventually.
    02-07-2017 04:20 PM
  6. xandros9's Avatar
    At one point I would've agreed, but Microsoft's own failings make it so I don't think it matters what kind of press they got.
    Guytronic, mark233, a5cent and 9 others like this.
    02-07-2017 04:55 PM
  7. TgeekB's Avatar
    This is the same excuse Blackberry users make. Blame tech bloggers. What happened happened. Now its time to look forward.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    02-07-2017 07:50 PM
  8. etphoto's Avatar
    This topic has come up many times before and I haven't changed my opinion. I think a very low number of mobile users read tech blogs. Therefor they influence a small num er of people looking for cell phones. I've always felt most people buy a cellphone based on what their friends use.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    02-07-2017 08:42 PM
  9. Faisal Islam2's Avatar
    Microsoft did some mistakes over the years which laid them down in mobile market
    02-08-2017 12:33 AM
  10. Rosebank's Avatar
    No its not! This tech bloggers reporters negative reviews impact on developers mind and developers lose their interest for developing apps for windows mobile! Basically negative marketing responsible for windows mobile failure
    I was just trying to be sarcastic, no offence. :-P
    Player Piano and Shamshi-Adad like this.
    02-08-2017 06:40 AM
  11. J Dubbs's Avatar
    The reason Windows phone isn't getting any app support is because their market share is non-existent, plain and simple. It's a waste of a developer's money creating an app for Windows phones.
    We wouldn't throw our money away, why should we expect them to?

    Windows phones are my favorite...But I can't control what Microsoft does with them. So I have to buy what works for me from the available phones on the market just like you guys do, and that happens to not be a Windows phone anymore. Life goes on ๐Ÿ˜ž
    02-08-2017 08:33 AM
  12. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    I think there is a little confirmation bias going on here in that when things start to head south there is a tendency to blame the critics rather than where the fault actually lies.
    02-08-2017 11:28 AM
  13. Chemy JMHT's Avatar
    Well, we all should know Samsung paid a lot of tech reviewers to do excellent Note7 reviews, Internet was full of that at one point,also the phone did great (until the bomb situation) but nobody would known if the phone was or not great, it's part of Microsoft to support all the tech reviewers they can.

    I know some which speak very good of the WIN10M but there hand are tied because MS is not releasing a campaign and is not strong fighter in the marketing war.

    So, there is not only one to blame.

    Maybe it's related with the fact that MS is making a lot of products with almost no competition, like Windows, maybe a lot others and they don't care very much about marketing.
    02-08-2017 04:29 PM
  14. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    Even though Microsoft seem to effectively be done with Windows Phone devices (regardless of whether we simply call it Windows Phone or Windows 10 Mobile on a Phone) they're probably not going to be in a hurry to abandon Windows 10 Mobile. The reason I say this, is because I'm betting they're cautious that suddenly dropping it will poison the well for future products even if they're not phone based simply because they share the Windows Brand.
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    02-08-2017 05:35 PM
  15. Guytronic's Avatar
    I get the feeling that above it all Microsoft or at least the mobile division is wondering what will happen themselves.
    When I look at all this WM "this or that" discussion it reminds of a tattered flag flapping in the wind.
    02-08-2017 05:59 PM
  16. HM84's Avatar
    No its not! This tech bloggers reporters negative reviews impact on developers mind and developers lose their interest for developing apps for windows mobile! Basically negative marketing responsible for windows mobile failure
    It is unfair to "blame the media". When I go to sites that talk about phones (be they tech or just news) I skip the articles that say "Nougat" this or "Siri" that. I go straight to the articles that show me, say, how my live tiles can be better used. People just go straight to what they feel is more familiar.

    When iPhone ads first came out, they showed what the device can do. They showed full desktop mode browsing, or specific apps that did something you cared about back in the day, like Shazam. Those were 30-second product demos with a cute piano tune in the background. Straight to the point stuff.

    At the time, the only other smartphone ad was the Palm. All they showed, as far as I recall, was someone in a green field talking about how she can barely keep her life together without her Palm, without actually showing how the Palm keeps her life together. The only exposure I had to Android back then was that, supposedly, Droid does.

    A couple of years later when MS switched from the Enterprise oriented WM6.X to the more consumer aimed (and missed) WP7, they made their own set of ads. The one highlight I can remember is someone dropping his phone into a urinal because, apparently, he is spending too much time on the phone, and WP is going to alleviate that by helping you get to the point faster. Honey, you and I both know, you will never get to the point faster if you pulled your phone out while at the urinal.

    The only person who would like this type of "propaganda" is someone who is desperately looking for the names of alternatives to the iPhone. In the end, as far as the whole world is concerned, iPhone has the New York Times app, and then there is this thing with squares of different sizes all over.
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    02-09-2017 01:05 AM
  17. Rosebank's Avatar
    The reason I say this, is because I'm betting they're cautious that suddenly dropping it will poison the well for future products.
    Very good point, I have struggled to understand why they keep in running. This could very well be the answer. Drop it now and then what else will be dropped at a moments notice!?
    02-09-2017 09:44 AM
  18. williehutch03's Avatar
    I call it fake news!
    02-24-2017 01:14 PM
  19. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    Part of the blame can certainly be placed to biased reviews and the constant bashing that we have all read a thousand times on various tech sites. The same blame can be placed on carrier sales staff. They almost went out of their way to discourage anyone from buying a WP, and usually with blatant misinformation, ignorance, or bias.

    In the end, the biggest fault still lies with Microsoft.
    02-24-2017 02:30 PM
  20. Rosebank's Avatar
    I still cant understand why they could not have produced 1 more decent device superior to the 950, perhaps things were sliding downwards too fast by then and that stopped the future production, but what I have noticed in say the last 4 months that this state of limbo has driven the platform even further downwards, MS are using other Brands like Alcatel and HP to bridge the gap but by not bridging the gap themselves they have shot themselves in the foot, they should have and could have pushed out another device this year, even if it was not a Lumia but a MS phone, this would have injected some life and confidence into the platform. that's my view.
    02-24-2017 04:27 PM
  21. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I still cant understand why they could not have produced 1 more decent device superior to the 950, perhaps things were sliding downwards too fast by then and that stopped the future production, but what I have noticed in say the last 4 months that this state of limbo has driven the platform even further downwards, MS are using other Brands like Alcatel and HP to bridge the gap but by not bridging the gap themselves they have shot themselves in the foot, they should have and could have pushed out another device this year, even if it was not a Lumia but a MS phone, this would have injected some life and confidence into the platform. that's my view.
    I'd kinda like to agree with you but I don't think it would've made a dent in sales. Howeveeeeer, if Microsoft wasn't going to build anything they should've at the very least given Alcatel and HP the chance to license PureView and Glance. The devices are rock stars in their own right and I doubt Microsoft could've built anything substantially better but their imaging isn't up to Lumia standards. This alone is a reason die-hards stick with Windows Mobile.
    02-25-2017 05:58 PM
  22. nasznjoka's Avatar
    Well, we all should know Samsung paid a lot of tech reviewers to do excellent Note7 reviews, Internet was full of that at one point,also the phone did great (until the bomb situation) but nobody would known if the phone was or not great, it's part of Microsoft to support all the tech reviewers they can.

    I know some which speak very good of the WIN10M but there hand are tied because MS is not releasing a campaign and is not strong fighter in the marketing war.

    So, there is not only one to blame.

    Maybe it's related with the fact that MS is making a lot of products with almost no competition, like Windows, maybe a lot others and they don't care very much about marketing.
    And the same Samsung failed to pay them well to do good reviews for s5 and s6?? Nonsense!!
    xandros9 likes this.
    02-26-2017 12:58 AM
  23. TgeekB's Avatar
    Blaming the media seems to be a popular theme, especially in politics, but I don't think it amounts to much.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    02-26-2017 09:51 AM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Blaming the media seems to be a popular theme, especially in politics, but I don't think it amounts to much.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    To intelligent people with critical thinking skills, no it doesn't.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
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    02-26-2017 01:42 PM
  25. TgeekB's Avatar
    To intelligent people with critical thinking skills, no it doesn't.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    I guess it's just part of our social connectedness. People are overwhelmed with information and don't know how to filter through it. It does take some critical thinking.
    I learned something important working in an ICU for many years: don't just rely on all the technology available to you, look at the patient for a true picture.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
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    02-26-2017 01:54 PM
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