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  1. mary beth hale's Avatar
    I'll preface this by saying I have used WP for the majority of the years I've used cell phones.1st smart phone, after using several Nokia flip phones was an LG Quantum.
    Having said that, I sold my 950XL some time ago and currently use a Galaxy S8.
    I felt that Microsoft was unable and/or unwilling to commit to Windows mobile. That made me feel as if I was on a sinking ship, so I jumped. Also, I hated Edge on mobile. I don't require a lot of apps, so that was not an issue. Just did not see a viable future in WP. I admit that I like high end phones and it didn't look like anything was on the horizon after the 950's and the HP.
    I miss WP's UI and its fluid simplicity. It is absolutely my favorite. I REALLY miss Cortana (Android version just doesn't work as well). The day they introduced "Hey Cortana" I was hooked. I miss all of my WPs, especially my favorites...Ativ S, 950XL and especially my 1520 (Rumorednow knows what I mean...the beast).
    I miss this site and the friends I made. WC is a very friendly place.
    Guess I simply lost faith that Microsoft would continue to move forward with WP.
    Anyway...."hey" to anyone that remembers me and I sure wish MS would have a chance to get back into mobile in a strong way. Not holding my breath though.
    MB
    07-20-2017 07:37 PM
  2. mary beth hale's Avatar
    BTW-I Still have my little $30 Walmart Closeout 640 as a backup and do break it out from time to time. What a great deal that was.
    07-20-2017 08:09 PM
  3. Rahul cholate's Avatar
    If you are In need to get on with apps that are not present on the windows store then definitely switch on to the other platform.
    But the fans like me, I really don't care about the apps. Even I am waiting for the best outcome from the Microsoft.
    07-20-2017 08:18 PM
  4. William Tadekawa's Avatar
    I've used WP since WP7, and currently use all three platforms, and I have to say W10M is the most unreliable garbage ever. I recently had my mom switch to android because her 650 bootlooped due to that dumb preview update MS released, and even after the recovery process and losing most of her data, some of the apps didn't want to work anymore. Why was it in preview in the first place? Because the official build had an annoying Japanese keyboard bug that was only fixed later in the fast ring builds. Sure, maybe I should have taken the phone off of preview immediately after updating to the newest fast ring build, but none of this would have happened in the first place if MS put more effort into their OS (especially their official builds), or if they didn't release an update that bricks everyone's phones. But now at least she won't have to deal with all that nonsense anymore. Plus she'll get better app support. I mean, I personally still use my 950, but mainly for its camera and for browsing the internet.
    CraigCole likes this.
    07-20-2017 08:58 PM
  5. RaRa85's Avatar
    I left Microsoft after the cancellation of the McLaren with the intentions of returning when (a) a compelling enough device came around(as much as I admire the cameras on the Lumia 950/XL and the sheer power of the Elite X3 they weren't compelling enough to leave what I had on Android) or (b) Microsoft gets developers to fill in the gaps that Android so easily filled. Neither scenario has happened and it seems that Microsoft is set for yet another reboot of its mobile OS. I will return when and if the Surface Phone lives up to years of dreaming and wanting despite the app situation especially if the camera tech is improved even more so. Microsoft's strategy and snail's pace progress has given me no reasons to come back to their mobile efforts. I was also holding out for a Lumia 1020 successor with the specs of a SD820/835 but for some reason they decided not to follow up on such a legendary device that would still benefit from today's faster, beefier processors amd smarter camera processing. I still have the Lumia 1020 and I just used it on vacation last week. Other than that I will hold out temptation of getting a L950 just for the camera and curiosity of W10M. Its just not worth it. I really need to see Microsoft commit HARD to whatever they have next.
    Elky64 likes this.
    07-20-2017 09:05 PM
  6. JasonH81's Avatar
    My 950 XL is still going strong, so I'll patiently wait. I guess my answer is yes
    07-20-2017 11:12 PM
  7. sd4f's Avatar
    I would, but at this stage, W10 still needs work, and the app situation would have to look like it really was going to get dealt with.

    There's no point being on this plaftorm while it's a significantly inferior experience.
    07-20-2017 11:45 PM
  8. Elky64's Avatar
    Will hang to my 640 as long as possible... so sad and disappointing how much Google and Apple out 'competed' Microsoft...
    IMHO, MSFT out competed themselves by trying to continually reinvent the wheel. After awhile it started to become clear, their approach wasn't very methodical as they couldn't look far enough ahead to envision their future moves. So when it got to a certain point in the journey, their tires went flat requiring another "change of direction"/"retrenchment".

    And personally, in the beginning it was never about competing against Android or iOS per se but more about "doing our own thing our way".
    Guytronic, jack69453 and CraigCole like this.
    07-21-2017 12:18 AM
  9. anon(5947965)'s Avatar
    No. It's dead.
    07-21-2017 02:42 AM
  10. Melle Zwerver's Avatar
    i've used windows mobile 6.1, and after a few years of android 2.3-4.4, i started using windows phone 8.0, and it was so much better than android, but after 8.1 the experience didn't really improve, with all the integration being removed. and with windows 10 mobile i moved back to android, and then ios. ios is much better than android, and even better than windows 10 mobile. i do miss windows on my phone, but they need to improve windows 10 mobile
    CraigCole likes this.
    07-21-2017 03:37 AM
  11. shanahben's Avatar
    I suggest holding out for what's to come from Microsoft. Almost everyone is convinced that a 'Surface phone' is in the works. That would be a far better deal than switching to Windows 10 Mobile now.
    BethlehemSteel likes this.
    07-21-2017 04:37 AM
  12. amirmaqhashmi's Avatar
    I have been switched to android recently!
    07-21-2017 05:12 AM
  13. myfyp2's Avatar
    I'm very unlikely to buy another Windows Phone.
    07-21-2017 05:26 AM
  14. robwards's Avatar
    Still happy with my 950, no driving need to switch just yet. But if it were to break I would have a difficult decision to make.

    Probably would look for a good cheap used 950 again. I would be loath to spend lots on a windows device given MS silence on the future of the platform
    07-21-2017 06:32 AM
  15. Mars2003's Avatar
    Microsoft have a huge task to get me back now. They've lost credibility and trust through their retrenchment strategy. I'm not sure I'd trust they were committed until I'd seen three yearly iterations of flagship devices and a building momentum manifesting as improved market share and developer support. I think that too many people will take this view as well and that will leave MS in a self imposed catch 22.
    I've moved to Android on a SGS7 Edge and I'm enjoying the richness and support of the ecosystem.
    Elky64 and CraigCole like this.
    07-21-2017 07:22 AM
  16. ScubaDog's Avatar
    I don't think anyone can answer this question for another person. There are so many variables that make a difference for each user. Some people like to spend their lives customizing their device while other find this a ridiculous waste of time. Some want a 100 apps on their phone--usually because other people have them--and other just need a few basic apps and everything else can be web-based. It also depends on where you live. If you live in a metropolitan area, there are features/services you may use that simply aren't a thing in rural areas. None of the banks in our town have an app on ANY platform, so there's no need there. Publicly accessible wifi doesn't exist except for at a couple of chain restaurants, so a large data plan is pretty much a must around here until you get home and can use your own wifi. Public transit doesn't exist here, and the couple of taxi services here mostly serve to take people back and forth across the Mexican border. In the end, what perceived negatives are you willing to accept in order to get the positives you desire? If the good outweighs the bad for you, then switching to another platform may make perfect sense. Bite the bullet and move on. As for me, there are no positives about iPhone or Android, so I'll stick with what I have until what I have won't work anymore. I doubt seriously we'll see any new Windows-based phones, sad to say.
    BethlehemSteel and libra89 like this.
    07-21-2017 07:44 AM
  17. DSR11's Avatar
    Ive actually been toying with the idea of upgrading my Lumia 640 to a Lumia 650......I'm still on the fence seeing as how the whole Linkedin app issue just happened, and now I have trouble navigating my Linkedin profile on Edge browser....I'm tons of issues replying to messages, and posts.....got the same issue with ebay, ever since they got rid of their app as well. Using Edge to navigate in ebay also is a royal pain. For instance I wanted to update my addresses since I'm a seller, and I can't get into my profile settings, I had to use my laptop. Its ridiculous....
    07-21-2017 08:12 AM
  18. Elky64's Avatar
    Microsoft have a huge task to get me back now. They've lost credibility and trust through their retrenchment strategy. I'm not sure I'd trust they were committed until I'd seen three yearly iterations of flagship devices and a building momentum manifesting as improved market share and developer support. I think that too many people will take this view as well and that will leave MS in a self imposed catch 22.
    I've moved to Android on a SGS7 Edge and I'm enjoying the richness and support of the ecosystem.
    Personally, I feel similar. Hard to erase the negativety of the past as it's always lingering in the back of one's mind, at least it would be for me... I just have to look at BB, their antics of the past are still playing a role in my decision to not go with them.

    I too own the GS7/GS7 Edge, love their stability and the fact they are there for me when called upon. For various reasons, unable to say the same about WM/WP.
    libra89 and CraigCole like this.
    07-21-2017 08:38 AM
  19. envio's Avatar
    It's worth getting a Windows 10 mobile device right now if you can answer yes to 2 or more of these questions:

    a) You're a Windows 10 Mobile diehard and you just prefer it over the other 2 platforms.
    b) You've lived with the "app-gap" all the way since WP7 and are fine with that.
    c) You've no worries about there being no new features or only minor tweaks and bug fixes coming until the next "big thing."
    d) Your W10M device will continue working but might be dropped from support at the next OS refresh and you're fine with that too.

    The only phone I would consider right now, if I had to, would be a L950XL to go with my L950. My trusty L930 was dropped from future updates after the Creators Update and I was using that as my Insiders device. But I've no inclination of going back into the Insiders Program at this point, because I'd need a new device and there's no point since the WM10 Preview branch was split and now it gets no new features.
    07-21-2017 09:00 AM
  20. Gabriel Ortiz1's Avatar
    I've been a long time Windows mobile user since before iPhone was a thing. I actually prefer Windows Os to ios and adroid. I would certainly buy another windows phone but I would love if msft followed a similar model as apple and Samsung namely, only focusing on HIGH END devices and subsidizing them with mobile carriers so that anyone can afford to own them.

    I feel that this is why Windows phone is not catching on with the masses. The majority can only afford to buy lower end windows phones(which are buggy, lag features, power, and abilities) and only the wealthy canafford to buy the higher end Windows phones (which do offer more power, abilities and features). If you want people to jump on board Windows phone, you have to entice them with all the great features that HIGH END windows phones offer. Make them more affordable by going to more mobile carriers (not just T-Mobile) and get them to offer financing plans or free phones with contracts (like apple and android have done with At&t, Sprint, T-Mobile, Metro PCS, etc.
    07-21-2017 09:00 AM
  21. azteca911's Avatar
    My wife and I both left Windows Phone last year. She's on iPhone and I have an Android. We're both waiting for the Surface phone to return to the fold.
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    07-21-2017 09:27 AM
  22. Drael646464's Avatar
    My 950XL runs buttery smooth after Fast Ring fresh install and I am very happy with it. However, with all the travel and banking I do, lack of apps gets frustrating. I used to have Android with Microsoft Band 2. I was almost completely paperless and cardless. Now, I'm back to printing boarding passes and a wallet full of cards.
    If Surface Phone comes to market, I'll probably be on board. If not, I'm eyeballing the Nokia 8.
    These are what I personally think are the four genuine reasons to not get a win10m phone. I don't really buy that uncertainty about the future of new features actually matters at all, to whether a phone is good, and does what its supposed to.

    Uncertain future = pretty much bollox to me. All you need is a healthy app platform, and MSFT is so invested in that it basically HAS to try, even if win10m itself isn't doing grand, because its UWP, its the future of the whole platform. You don't actually need new features

    However if you:

    1) Bank a lot, in a way that depends on the apps

    2) Travel a great deal, in a way that depends on the apps

    3) Are very into IoT smart devices, that you don't want to have to choose specifically for the phone (there are watches, lights and devices etc but not as many)

    or

    4) Love the latest trends or are a teenager (I snapchat, pokemon go)

    Any of those, you have a fairly valid reason for avoid the platform. I might also include other tiny niche user groups, like people that want 20 streaming services or similar.

    All of those might change in the future, if windows on arm attracts ios devs to UWP, for laptop users, and that might bring more full desktop software too (at least IMO, the later). But right now its not a matter of "no apps" but distinct areas that are weak, and ones that are strong, such that particular kinds of users might have an issue, and other types of users (such as the basic every day user, or a photography fan, or mobile gaming, which are "solid enough"), not.
    07-21-2017 09:30 AM
  23. HALagoSilva's Avatar
    At this moment the only option is an iPhone, but in my country is to far expensive. The Android phones suck, my Samsung experience is awful. The problem with Windows Mobile is the lack of software and the grey zone Microsoft keeps their plans. So, we are in a very lousy moment for mobile platforms.
    07-21-2017 10:23 AM
  24. Gabriel Ortiz1's Avatar
    I've been a long time Windows mobile user since before iPhone was a thing. I actually prefer Windows Os to ios and adroid. I would certainly buy another windows phone but I would love if msft followed a similar model as apple and Samsung namely, only focusing on HIGH END devices and subsidizing them with mobile carriers so that anyone can afford to own them.

    I feel that this is why Windows phone is not catching on with the masses. The majority can only afford to buy lower end windows phones(which are buggy, lag features, power, and abilities) and only the wealthy canafford to buy the higher end Windows phones (which do offer more power, abilities and features). If you want people to jump on board Windows phone, you have to entice them with all the great features that HIGH END windows phones offer. Make them more affordable by going to more mobile carriers (not just T-Mobile) and get them to offer financing plans or free phones with contracts (like apple and android have done with At&t, Sprint, T-Mobile, Metro PCS, etc. As it is, people can only either pay full price ofr an expensive 950, 950XL, or HP ELite on At&t or Verizon or pay full price of a lower/med range Alcatel Idol on T-Mobile. So, the choice for average people (the vast majority) is simple: just go with At&t, Verizon, T-Mobile, or sprint and subsidize a higher end iphone or Samsung S8 for a low monthly payment attached to their monthly bill. Meanwhile, Windows phone is left behind.

    Subsidize high end windows phones/surface phones and more people will jump on board
    07-21-2017 10:38 AM
  25. nicolasmart's Avatar
    Hi, everyone. I've been using a variety of different Windows Phones - the Lumia 630, Lumia 520 and Lumia 820. I like to play around with Windows 10 Mobile and it's my favorite Mobile OS, because it does the casual things in a way that it looks way more professional and the experience is more PC-like. There is no other Mobile OS more close to a PC one than Windows.

    Now, I'm using two phones (switching up the SIM cards), and those are my Moto G 2015 and the Lumia 630. Now, just to be clear, my Moto G³ is rooted and I have installed a custom ROM on it (Resurrection Remix) and even though I switch the ROMs weekly and modify the entire look&feel of the device, I get bored with a single ROM too fast.

    Windows 10 Mobile is the only platform I never get bored from and love without any mods.

    I'm actually thinking of buying one of those Lumia 950 guys. I mean, Continuum is way more useful than you think. I hacked my Lumia 630 to run Continuum and it runs fine, it crashes a lot since the device has only 512 MB of RAM and it doesn't even have the proprietary drivers for the Graphics, the Mouse and Keyboard, so it's a pain in the butt to use Continuum on such a low-end device.

    What I want to point out here is that I am still going to buy a Windows Phone in 2017 but it is going to be my last one or at least until Surface Mobile (or Surface Phone, or whatever it's gonna be called) gets released.

    Even though I'm crazy enough to buy one of those, I don't recommend it to anyone else. It's like the Sony phones - they aren't worth it but they are nice for the fans.

    People who really love Windows Phone should buy one to the point where it's at least usable in the modern world, in 2017. Still, the bare essentials are left in the store.
    Kot Prada likes this.
    07-21-2017 10:49 AM
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