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  1. Nayden's Avatar
    Frankly I don't care about the brand name, but instead Microsoft should do something big to convince the app developers and smart gadgets' manufacturers about its future in windows phones. I like my lumia 950 but as you well know the choice of apps is very limited and I am already sick and tired of getting no for an answer when asking "is it available for...."
    09-25-2017 08:34 AM
  2. SlideWRX's Avatar
    Were having this conversation, seriously?
    I know, right? It isn't even up for debate. Free advertising next year, fond memories from at least three users. The decision is simple:

    Zune Mobile.
    BAM!
    Guardians of the Galaxy are already 'promoting' it.

    You may laugh, but back when Ford had turned the Taurus into a crapmobile rental fleet queen, they introduced their new sedan as the 500 because they thought the Taurus name was destroyed. First thing the New CEO did was change the name back, and it worked out well for them. Name recognition is King. That is why the iPhone will always be the iPhone, even when there are four/six different versions for sale. That is why Samsung will always have a Galaxy S#, Note, Tab, J#, etc.

    Name Recognition is King. Zune L950 & L950XL. Awwww yeah...
    Timbre70, fatclue_98 and aximtreo like this.
    09-25-2017 08:36 AM
  3. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I know, right? It isn't even up for debate. Free advertising next year, fond memories from at least three users. The decision is simple:

    Zune Mobile.
    BAM!
    Guardians of the Galaxy are already 'promoting' it.

    You may laugh, but back when Ford had turned the Taurus into a crapmobile rental fleet queen, they introduced their new sedan as the 500 because they thought the Taurus name was destroyed. First thing the New CEO did was change the name back, and it worked out well for them. Name recognition is King. That is why the iPhone will always be the iPhone, even when there are four/six different versions for sale. That is why Samsung will always have a Galaxy S#, Note, Tab, J#, etc.

    Name Recognition is King. Zune L950 & L950XL. Awwww yeah...
    I am on record somewhere on these boards hoping and wishing that Alan Mullally would become CEO before Nadella was named as Clippy's successor. He did a tremendous job at Ford.
    aximtreo likes this.
    09-25-2017 09:20 AM
  4. DjW58's Avatar
    Lumia 650 dual sim. 2 #s on 1 phone. Surface is for tablets/laptops. Lumia is phones. I love Windows 10 mobile.
    Timbre70 likes this.
    09-25-2017 09:38 AM
  5. Luis Carlos Ruiz Paternina's Avatar
    I'd go with both Lumia and Surface

    Lumia is a known brand and Surface Mobile is something we have been waiting for quite a while. This mixture can cause the necessary hype and traction Microsoft needs after the epic failure of these years of mobile betas.

    By the way this next try will be my last try with Microsoft.
    09-25-2017 11:10 AM
  6. truenexus's Avatar
    I will go for Lumia because Lumia is popular than surface in most of countries as a smartphone brand .
    what you windows phone fans wants Microsoft to name new window phone if they have a plan to release new windows phone
    IMHO, the brand *Lumia* is so 2000late. As already commented, *Surface* brand sticks in minds with tablet/pc products. If it ever happens, a new, branded line up should be pursued. Nothing says, "Ooh new, shiny, and I want it" like forward-thinking branding, whatever that is to be. *Lumia* name has cooled like cold oatmeal, for reasons already mentioned.
    Like other commenters stated, need flagship Enterprise Windows models. Lower-cost consumer tiers might include a VR/Gaming model, a ruggedized, cellular Go-Pro-like device, a Fashionista model, and of course a Plain-Jane slab . I really wish Microsoft would've done the cellular watch-phone first, yet maybe not too late for a me-too. Oh, and one more thing... a police/first-responder ruggedized, multi-SIM, end-of-world-gear device.
    09-25-2017 11:39 AM
  7. Oltremari's Avatar
    I love my Lumia phone. But I don't care what my phone is called. What I care about is a dependable phone that is easy to use. The top two issues with Windows phones is the App Gap and the lack of an effective marketing campaign on Microsoft's part. Microsoft did not do a good job at all in letting consumers know what a Windows phone was (or that it existed.)

    I would love for Microsoft to come out with a new phone/mobile line that could compete in the smartphone market.

    But unless Microsoft puts forth a proper marketing campaign it doesn't matter what they name their next phone.

    Microsoft needs to provide a stable development environment that makes it easy for developers to port existing Android apps as well as creating new apps. We see ubiquitous links that direct smartphone users to the Apple and Google app stores. Unless Microsoft can get a Microsoft Store link next to those two, their next phone is doomed. If developers refuse to port their apps to the Microsoft platform, Microsoft does not stand a chance.
    09-25-2017 12:28 PM
  8. Bryant White's Avatar
    Neither of them:
    Lumia (i like it but been real) is death for consumer market
    Surface could (and knowing Microsof's record) could harm the brand, they could release a surface phone down the road if they succeed with a new brand that can grab as little as 9% worldwide marketshare, anything before that won't make good for the brand.
    09-25-2017 12:56 PM
  9. pat grinnan's Avatar
    I will go for Lumia because Lumia is popular than surface in most of countries as a smartphone brand .
    what you windows phone fans wants Microsoft to name new window phone if they have a plan to release new windows phone
    Keep the Luma 950XL best phone ever.
    09-25-2017 03:26 PM
  10. Dan Frownfelter's Avatar
    I'll vote for a Surface Phone only if Microsoft gives significant rebates to previous/current owners.
    09-25-2017 03:46 PM
  11. WandowsTan's Avatar
    Oh giddy, this is gonna be a LONG LONG RANT...

    Preferences and facts:
    I still use my Lumia device, regardless i wouldn't think the best option is to go with Lumia branding either way, what everyone who love the brand keep saying is that, people loved the design, the looks, the features, etc. the thing is yeah it was all good enough for me and at some points even impressive but overall, the Lumia brand has been tarnished point blank Microsoft made it clear to the whole world when they ended "Lumia support" and clarified that Lumia was sold less and lesser and its market declined into nothing because it was a failed device in the end.

    The point:
    No matter how anyone wants to put anything to like make an excuse "no developers/ too many reboots" all this amounts to nothing, Lumia as a brand failed and many other brand consumers watched this brand fall, in a business if a project fails we don't restart that project with the same name in most cases we'd simply re-use the viable idea's in it and re-implement the project under a different name, the reason for this is to prevent bad judgement and the possibility that it will get less supported due to people "judging the book by its cover" like for instance " oh its Lumia, i bet its going to fail again cause i had a friend who had one of those, its nice but its a limited system" why this judgement, because people are unaware and will not care to put time to figure out some other failed brands system since they are already invested in something else and they believe they already know this brand because its "Lumia", so this will cause the device sales to flop based on the brand name itself.

    Why Surface brand should be used:
    When this Microsoft will use the new unified Windows system, its best they go with the surface brand because Surface mobile never existed, technically speaking there was no real "Surface mobile" pushed by Microsoft as a device so its going to make all other consumers not judge it by the Lumia brand that failed horribly in the end in terms of its sales. Instead consumers will actually contribute time to figure out what this new device exactly is by gathering information instead of assuming what it is, if it was using the Lumia brand and if it was using the Lumia brand, a google search would have simply given out the history of what happened to Lumia thus chasing the viable customer off all thanks to that frightful history Lumia has had with its demise.

    Brandishing:
    At the end of the day, there is the one simple logical point in any consumer who consumes products/brands which is to buy products that work and not buy products that wont work and this first impression effect happens based on their first experience of the product/brand thus they stick to what worked for them or what works for them, many consumers bought Android Phones/iPhones instead of Windows Phones because Lumia didn't work for them and they remember that choice, which was to turn their heads away from the brand name called Lumia, because it didn't work once, they wont try that again nor wish to waste their valuable time to figure out whats different with the new Windows Phone produced under same brand this time but if its a different brand, then they'd least be somewhat curious because the brand naming itself implies something about the product and very well may define the quality of it because simply based on how the brand itself has done in the past will define its future where as Lumia failed in sales the Surface did not fail, the Surface line overall has had a positive outlook due to its high end devices, amazing designs, great technologies within each model that was released under the Surface brand name, it simply adds layers of expressions to the product itself and boosts the products "potential sales" and its value.

    but all said and done, i'd like everyone to know that being a Lumia fan is one thing and loving Windows is another. if i were you, i'd choose the latter because to me, its always gonna be Windows.
    09-25-2017 06:11 PM
  12. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Man, you weren’t kidding.
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    09-25-2017 08:50 PM
  13. Venkatesan Ramasami's Avatar
    Shall we call it LUMIA SW10 (Surface windows 10) If hp elite x3 phone had Zeiss optics without aby hesitation I would have gone for it by now. Now I have to wait to see Surface Phone before a decision.
    09-26-2017 12:48 AM
  14. Isaiah Heart's Avatar
    It's not true that Lumia is a failure. It is lack of marketing from Microsoft. To every effect there is a cause. If Microsoft were passionate about the brand. We wouldn't be talking about the Surface phone, the Lumia should have been this Surface phone. Microsoft should carry on with Lumia, it should be for the fans or a budget phone for those who won't manage buy the surface phone.
    09-26-2017 06:30 AM
  15. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    Lumia is only a failure to the very small percentage of people who bought one. Outside of that, the brand name is still largely unknown. I'm fairly confident that I could ask all of my co-workers what a Lumia is/was, and they wouldn't know.
    aximtreo likes this.
    09-26-2017 07:02 AM
  16. Punisher2000's Avatar
    It really does'nt matter what name the they use, they just need to bring a device that will really please consumers, if windows 10 OS andromeda brings a great experience to windows phones fans, then the name of the brand don't count. Let just wait and see what MS brings to the table in 2018
    09-26-2017 07:18 AM
  17. faisalbaba's Avatar
    Lumia is only a failure to the very small percentage of people who bought one. Outside of that, the brand name is still largely unknown. I'm fairly confident that I could ask all of my co-workers what a Lumia is/was, and they wouldn't know.
    No, lot of people's know Lumia brand because of Nokia they didn't know what windows phone is

    Sent from (iOK)
    09-26-2017 08:20 AM
  18. helsten2's Avatar
    Lumia Surface X
    09-26-2017 08:28 AM
  19. faisalbaba's Avatar
    Lumia Surface X
    Why x in name?

    Sent from (iOK)
    09-26-2017 08:43 AM
  20. EssThree's Avatar
    Absolutely Surface. I see Surfaces more and more frequently when I'm at uni these days. Where as I saw less than ten Lumias in the years they were being made, three of which were people I suggested them to. Lumia is a dead brand and bringing it back would be a complete waste of time, regardless of how fondly we may remember it.

    In another timeline we're all happily using our Lumia 960s with the full fall creator's update and seeing them being used by randoms on the street...
    09-26-2017 10:11 AM
  21. DMelan's Avatar
    Windows Phone is what's most associated with failure. Lumia is more like "have I heard of that?" It's Windows Phone / Windows Mobile that people actively avoided, not Lumia. Perhaps Lumia was guilty by association in certain circles, but was not derided in and of itself. Besides, the name of the next Microsoft mobile device is a tiny issue compared to the much MUCH bigger task of providing a platform people are actually interested in. WM didn't fail because of the name.
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    09-26-2017 12:38 PM
  22. sumton's Avatar
    None game over
    09-26-2017 12:39 PM
  23. kostas douroumis's Avatar
    We don't need a third mobile OS people. In fact we don't need windows at all. Microsoft could make a surface tablet with ios. Or cortana with Google search. I mean who needs Bing when all you need is to google things.
    09-26-2017 01:28 PM
  24. Bobvfr's Avatar
    We don't need a third mobile OS people. In fact we don't need windows at all. Microsoft could make a surface tablet with ios. Or cortana with Google search. I mean who needs Bing when all you need is to google things.
    Subtle hint of sarcasm there by any chance ;-)
    kostas douroumis likes this.
    09-26-2017 01:40 PM
  25. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Microsoft could make a surface tablet with ios.
    I'm sure Apple will be more than willing to share all their IP with Microsoft. Now excuse me while I go for a ride on my Harley-Davidson with a Kawasaki-equipped motor.
    09-26-2017 01:42 PM
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