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  1. StefEBear's Avatar
    Personally I hate Apple's "Holier than Though" (It's Magical) attitude and their anally retentive "Walled Garden". They'll never get any of my money

    I'm now a user of a Galaxy S8+ and thorougly enjoying it. I've not gone too overboard with cusomisation. I've got a few apps/folders on my 2 page home screens .but it's very minimal, And one page full of WIdgets. (I do miss the virtical home page of Live Tiles on WM10)
    Last edited by StefEBear; 10-17-2017 at 04:46 PM. Reason: Added more information
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    10-17-2017 04:42 PM
  2. joanzen's Avatar
    I'd been on Windows Phone/Mobile since my LG Quantum in back in 2010. I really wanted to hold out for the Verizon HP Elite x3, but I just couldn't justify the cost for a dead OS and my Icon's battery life was measured in minutes... So I started looking around. I've had my shiny new LG V30 for about 24 hours. It's certainly a beautiful piece of hardware and the camera is amazing. It's going to be a while getting used to Android, but I do like the customization that's available here, but not on iOS. I'm missing those live tiles, like crazy though! I'm not a huge app person, but it is nice to have many choices.
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    10-17-2017 05:51 PM
  3. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    I will never go iOS. That kind of a locked down environment is not for me. It also does not integrate into my world at all. I'm trying Android, A Galaxy S8 Plus. It's a hard transition for me, one that I may not be able to maintain. The lack of standard day to day functions that I took for granted on WP just do not exist on Android. Right down to an assistant (Cortana) that allows me to be so functional by voice when driving. I feel like I've taken a HUGE step backwards. Sure, the apps are nice, but what good are they on an OS as unproductive for me as this? I can live without the apps. I cannot live without having what I consider to be basic functions embedded in the OS. Maybe the lack of apps is what prompted MSFT to do this in the first place. I do not feel I will be away much longer. I've just updated both my X3 & 950 XL to the latest build. I miss Cortana.
    10-17-2017 06:29 PM
  4. Mokhash Parmar's Avatar
    I switched from my Lumia 640XL to a Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra. The price was the big factor. You can get android phones that perform waay better than W10M phones for a decent price. iPhones on the other hand are too costly. Too much risk for an OS I've never used before.
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    10-17-2017 09:20 PM
  5. JeevanP's Avatar
    To be frank the only reason we can say is it's customization capabilities of Android. You can make it look like a WP if you want.
    10-17-2017 09:38 PM
  6. Wevenhuis's Avatar
    Every post that I've read here regarding switching platforms and also many of Microsoft important people (Joe Belfiore, Bill Gates, etc.) , mentioned android as their destination.
    But why? Why not iOS?
    Android:
    -customizability
    -price
    -device choice
    -familiarity

    iOS:
    -simplicity
    -security
    -comply with similar use in my network. If we all use iOS we speak the same language for good and for bad.
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    10-18-2017 03:47 AM
  7. 10past12's Avatar
    I recently got a OnePlus5 and it's a superb phone for the price. One snag is that I've found I cannot directly add a Microsoft account to sync contacts, only way to do it is have the Outlook app and through this app set it to sync contacts to device. Changes made to contacts don't always make it to outlook.com and in the end I've reverted to Google for my contact organisation. Plus Google assistant beats Siri and Cortana by far.
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    10-18-2017 07:06 AM
  8. FlyLikeAnEagle's Avatar
    Android is not an option for me. I want a stable, reliable OS and applications which are assured of a good future and Apple has proven all of that through the last decades. Paying a few bucks more is being refunded by Apple with a well-tested and mostly bug-free OS and applications, so it seems there really isn't a choice left nowadays.
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    10-18-2017 08:31 AM
  9. Xaxxus's Avatar
    Android is not an option for me. I want a stable, reliable OS and applications which are assured of a good future and Apple has proven all of that through the last decades. Paying a few bucks more is being refunded by Apple with a well-tested and mostly bug-free OS and applications, so it seems there really isn't a choice left nowadays.
    Also Apple products retain value. You can basically sell your iPhone for 75-80% of it's purchase price and buy the next model very easily.

    Android on the other hand, your lucky to find a buyer if it's not a Samsung/google device.
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    10-18-2017 08:53 AM
  10. Shuaibu Ahmed's Avatar
    I have interacted with many people who formally use WP and over 90% of them choose Android phones over iPhones because you have a wide selection of brands to choose from and the flexibility and freedom to do what you want with Android phones, but many of them if not all of them still wish MS hadn't messed up WP and if MS had made the license of WP os free it probably would have still stood a chance at being the 3rd popular smartphone OS. WINDOWS PHONE might still have a future if only Microsoft is dedicated to new features, timely software updates and making licening free for OEM is adopt.
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    10-18-2017 09:31 AM
  11. Sean Botha's Avatar
    I really hate android and the fact that google refuse to have their products on WP even if it is a 3rd party app just makes up my mind that I will not support google again so IPhone if I can't have a Windows Phone
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    10-18-2017 10:10 AM
  12. Kimmo Toivanen's Avatar
    Why would anyone want to switch to iOS??

    Seriously, I do understand why some people would go to iOS. There are a lot of people out there that like simple and get overwhelmed with choice.
    I think that this is too simplified interpretation. Simple usage =/= simple user.
    I think it's more about what users want. iPhones are premium devices that "just work" :) (disclaimer: my phone has android)

    In my opinion going with Apple is like living in a country under a dictatorship.

    As a user (citizen) of Apple you dont get to choose what you want on so many aspects from software to hardware.

    Apple "decides" what is best for its users (citizens) and imposes its will on all of them as it sees fit.
    Sometimes they truly do what is best for the users but every decision also is influenced by what is best for Apple and its leaders as well. (what lines their pockets the most).
    I don't see too much difference compared to old Nokia, WP/WM or Android (or dishwashers) :D

    Android has an edge in allowing 3rd party apps to be used as default, but Google does not allow full freedom.
    WM may have had the biggest amount of democracy with insider feedback "voting".
    Without Apple, would we be using Symbian?
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    10-18-2017 11:55 AM
  13. c4m3ron's Avatar
    For me its personal. I will never purchase an Apple product. I went with an S8 Plus which is smaller than my Elite X3 but its ok. The one thing I miss the most is Cortana.
    But with your S8+ you get Bixby, Google Assistant AND Cortana! You can install Cortana from the Play store. Again, Android is all about CHOICE.
    10-18-2017 11:55 AM
  14. c4m3ron's Avatar
    Personally I hate Apple's "Holier than Though" (It's Magical) attitude and their anally retentive "Walled Garden". They'll never get any of my money

    I'm now a user of a Galaxy S8+ and thorougly enjoying it. I've not gone too overboard with cusomisation. I've got a few apps/folders on my 2 page home screens .but it's very minimal, And one page full of WIdgets. (I do miss the virtical home page of Live Tiles on WM10)
    Why not install a custom launcher from the Play store? SquareHome 2 for example makes your phone look just like a Windows phone and it couldn't be easier to use.
    10-18-2017 12:02 PM
  15. Xaxxus's Avatar
    But with your S8+ you get Bixby, Google Assistant AND Cortana! You can install Cortana from the Play store. Again, Android is all about CHOICE.
    Cortana on Android/iOS is only available in the states. And it's been that way for years. No signs of it ever coming to other markets.
    10-18-2017 12:06 PM
  16. c4m3ron's Avatar
    You can install Cortana. Also Samsung has Bixby which will give you the low level system access and then there's Google Assistant which is incredibly accurate for searching.

    As for saying you will miss out on apps, I find this an odd statement. The demise of Windows phone for the most part is total lack of apps and development compared to the competition. You can download Microsoft apps anyway on Android. Everything else you need will be found there too. I cannot think of anything you won't find on the Play store.
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    10-18-2017 12:12 PM
  17. tgp's Avatar
    I think that this is too simplified interpretation. Simple usage =/= simple user.
    I think it's more about what users want. iPhones are premium devices that "just work" :) (disclaimer: my phone has android)
    The user experience of an Android out-of-the-box is very similar to the user experience of an iPhone. All that modding, tweaking, changing, it's not at all necessary. I think the difference is that because we can, we think we must!
    10-18-2017 12:22 PM
  18. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    But with your S8+ you get Bixby, Google Assistant AND Cortana! You can install Cortana from the Play store. Again, Android is all about CHOICE.
    Yeah, CHOICE in apps that don't do what I need them to do. I want an assistant that will read my messages and make calls for me by voice when I'm driving. None of them can do that on Android. Cortana on Android is nothing like she is on WP. The functionality is extremely limited.
    10-18-2017 01:32 PM
  19. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    You can install Cortana. Also Samsung has Bixby which will give you the low level system access and then there's Google Assistant which is incredibly accurate for searching.

    As for saying you will miss out on apps, I find this an odd statement. The demise of Windows phone for the most part is total lack of apps and development compared to the competition. You can download Microsoft apps anyway on Android. Everything else you need will be found there too. I cannot think of anything you won't find on the Play store.
    You misunderstood my comment. I was saying the lack of apps on W10M is apparent but not as bad as the limitations of the Android OS itself.
    10-18-2017 01:34 PM
  20. Fernando Albuquerque's Avatar
    Weird nostalgic feelings, isn't? Eventhough W10 still breathes, giving no signals that knows the tragic end that waits for it, missing feelings are unavoidable, and we ask "how do things reached this situation?".
    I still didn't get to leave my950 XL in the drawer. It still run all apps I need in that efficient way we are accustomed, and as effective, fluent and fast as never. My son's Lumia 630 runs as faster as an Apple flagship. Very impressive!
    Windows mobile efforts couldn't continues, despite market share and the self destructive insistence in accepting nothing less than hegemony? Selling "only" a bunch of millions of devices is something so terrible that is it preferable to treat its supporters by kicking and spitting on them? Standing in a market cluster is worse than "nothing", than rendition?
    M$ succumbed to the furious vortex of a mad competition that, due to turning around and around, left those people in their Redmond's offices, almost immortals, lost in an autistic world.
    They can claim the opposite, but denying can't makes disappear the smashing truth.
    10-18-2017 05:42 PM
  21. Lloyd Kuhnle's Avatar
    Every post that I've read here regarding switching platforms and also many of Microsoft important people (Joe Belfiore, Bill Gates, etc.) , mentioned android as their destination.
    But why? Why not iOS?
    The answer is simple - Android does not use iTunes!
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    10-18-2017 07:15 PM
  22. blazewon22's Avatar
    I have both, Android for Work and iPhone for Home. Coming from a Lumia 950 for Work to a Nexus it was a huge relief for the app gap to disappear.

    At one point I had Android for home and dropped it for 3 reasons:

    1. Messaging - Android has futzed around with messaging for years. My family all has iPhones and iMessage and FaceTime just work. It was a losing battle to get people to use Hangouts and now I can't imaging people switching to Allo & Duo, plus you still need Messaging.

    2. Music - Apple Music is awesome. Way better than Google Music and the Beats Radio is an advantage over Spotify. Apple headphones were great out of the box and the Airbuds are amazing.

    3. Touch ID & Camera - These features just worked better on my iPhone. I really hope they don't force us to only use FaceID in the future. I recommend the iPhone 8.

    I will also add that apps tend to get released and updated with new features first on iOS. My Airline App for example was always a week or so ahead and has less crashes. I travel frequently so this was important to me. There are also thousands of peripherals from Heart monitors to video game controllers, to Square readers.

    Finally the Apple features have been better - Watch and Phone are better than Android Wear, Car Play is better than Android Auto.

    Also a big benefit was AppleCare. If I crack my phone I can book an appointment on the Apple Store website walk in and have it repaired same day. My old Nexus 5 had to be sent in and one time the 3rd party warranty company sent me back an LG phone because they didn't have a Nexus in stock!

    Finally iOS is quick with updates. A Pixel will be good as well, but Apple seems to patch quicker than Google.

    Google does voice to text better and the Assistant is years ahead of Siri. However Siri isn't as liberal about reading all of your data.

    If your primary intent is to leverage Cortana and Edge then get Android. That would however wipe out most of the benefits of the Pixel 2. If you need a Continuum experience, get Samsung.
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    10-18-2017 09:38 PM
  23. GKL50's Avatar
    One reason for some might be that apple phones tend to be more expensive than android phones.
    10-19-2017 12:36 PM
  24. Xaxxus's Avatar
    I have both, Android for Work and iPhone for Home. Coming from a Lumia 950 for Work to a Nexus it was a huge relief for the app gap to disappear.

    At one point I had Android for home and dropped it for 3 reasons:

    1. Messaging - Android has futzed around with messaging for years. My family all has iPhones and iMessage and FaceTime just work. It was a losing battle to get people to use Hangouts and now I can't imaging people switching to Allo & Duo, plus you still need Messaging.

    2. Music - Apple Music is awesome. Way better than Google Music and the Beats Radio is an advantage over Spotify. Apple headphones were great out of the box and the Airbuds are amazing.

    3. Touch ID & Camera - These features just worked better on my iPhone. I really hope they don't force us to only use FaceID in the future. I recommend the iPhone 8.

    I will also add that apps tend to get released and updated with new features first on iOS. My Airline App for example was always a week or so ahead and has less crashes. I travel frequently so this was important to me. There are also thousands of peripherals from Heart monitors to video game controllers, to Square readers.

    Finally the Apple features have been better - Watch and Phone are better than Android Wear, Car Play is better than Android Auto.

    Also a big benefit was AppleCare. If I crack my phone I can book an appointment on the Apple Store website walk in and have it repaired same day. My old Nexus 5 had to be sent in and one time the 3rd party warranty company sent me back an LG phone because they didn't have a Nexus in stock!

    Finally iOS is quick with updates. A Pixel will be good as well, but Apple seems to patch quicker than Google.

    Google does voice to text better and the Assistant is years ahead of Siri. However Siri isn't as liberal about reading all of your data.

    If your primary intent is to leverage Cortana and Edge then get Android. That would however wipe out most of the benefits of the Pixel 2. If you need a Continuum experience, get Samsung.
    You summed it up perfectly. Basically Android will be better if you want to stick around with Microsofts ecosystem, but the experience wont be as good as a native solution. Honestly I'm considering dropping MS entirely and going balls deep into apple. Keep my desktop for gaming.
    10-19-2017 01:58 PM
  25. mc_razza's Avatar
    For me, it comes down to price. Put simply, iPhones are too expensive. I'm already invested in the Apple ecosystem with an iMac (albeit from 2008), two iPads and an Apple TV but I cannot justify dropping over a grand for an iPhone 8. And forget buying yesterday's tech like the iPhone SE for over AUD $500. That's pretty much my argument for deciding to go with Android. However, one thing I am worried about is the comparatively weak security of Android over iOS, W10M and even WP8.1. Sure, Google pushes out monthly security updates, but that's dependent on the hardware manufacturer. Also Google guarantees a mere two years of updates from whereas Apple's commitment lasts far longer.
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    10-20-2017 06:23 AM
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