1. Pairadyce's Avatar
    Wow, Zac Bowden, way to alienate readers with the insults in your article [http://windowscentral.com/chime-are-...one-if-yes-why]. Us "crazies" and "normies" have better things to spend our hard-earned cash on than to replace perfectly functional, 100% paid for phones that do what we need them to do for the time being. Crazy would be me blowing $1000-2000+ on new phones for the family. Articles like yours are one more reason for me to not bother visiting the site, but maybe once a month anymore.
    Yeah, I don't think this thread went in the direction Zac expected. That is my biggest grip in the tone of the W10M articles for the last 6 months... essentially calling people dumb for continuing to use phones if they aren't impacted by the changes. Ever since Cortana added Smart Home integration I haven't even thought about changing OS's. It's not at the "move on, it's dead" point yet so I felt the message being hammered by the writers was irresponsible even though I was interested in the news they were reporting.
    01-22-2018 07:45 AM
  2. s_praino's Avatar
    I still use a Lumia Icon. I use and support Microsoft products at work. I have a Microsoft Band 1 as a smartwatch, and everything just ties in together. My emails and calendars are synced, and I can manage my Cortana info and reminders from my desktop or phone. Everything is backed up to my OneDrive space, and for me anyway, everything just works. Not that I couldn't do all of that on a different phone platform, but I like how different the Windows Phone OS is. I've never used an iPhone or Android phone. Every single smartphone I've owned has been on Windows. I like the ecosystem and I have little reason to switch.
    01-22-2018 07:49 AM
  3. wpguy's Avatar
    Yeah, I don't think this thread went in the direction Zac expected.

    To me he came off as one of the high school kids I help mentor, who really don't have a full grasp on how much things cost, useful life and value vs time to replace, etc., because they aren't footing the entire bill, if any.
    01-22-2018 07:57 AM
  4. silentintrigue's Avatar
    Assassin Cold :)

    I still use my Alcatel Idol 4S and absolutely love it. Everything I need to work still does so for the time being all is good. The camera, albeit slow, is decent enough and between the phones 64GB and my 128GB sd card I have a ton of storage; most of it filled.

    My line, when people say, "What kind of phone is that", I always reply, "A windows 10 mobile phone. I am one of the six people in the country still using one. "
    01-22-2018 07:59 AM
  5. slippercream's Avatar
    Yep. Still on both the 950XL and X3 (on VZW). Still constantly pissed at how things are starting to come unhinged - even Cortana is starting to not even recognize voice. I don't know why I even bother sometimes. But, truth? I really can't see myself switching to Android. Apple is really not even a choice. Other than the abysmal store options for the occasional convenience feature (e.g., home automation and connectivity), I have everything I really need in a Phone, and more. If I wanted to do more, I have my laptops and desktop for that.

    Made me sad playing with Continuum last week. Still holding out for hope that I could replace the head unit in the car with a reliable version of a hot-dock mobile brain. Alas - will wait and see what's announced in MWC and beyond.

    Back to Windows Phone - Keeping this alive for as long as I can. I just really hope MS makes good with those it left high and dry with the next iteration of... whatever WP is going to be replaced with... "the ultimate mobile device." Because to me, WP was almost there. All MS needed to do was give up on UWP and make it easier for developers and media producers to harmonize from/with their own products from other mobile platforms.
    01-22-2018 08:22 AM
  6. Guzzler3's Avatar
    I tried Android (Moto G4+) for 3-4 months. AAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!! Drove me nuts. I put all the Microsoft apps on it and it just wasn't as easy to use as my L650. So I went back to my L650.

    The main reason was Text messaging: Text->speech/speech->text via Bluetooth. I get a lot of texts while driving (car and motorcycle) and being able to have the phone read the messages to me and being able to respond hands free is paramount to me. I tried EVERY app available for Android that is supposed to reproduce the same feature built into a Windows phone, and none worked as well or worked at all.

    PLUS I don't have to say "comma", "question mark", "Period", etc. My phone puts those in for me AUTOMATICLY because it can understand proper inflections. I just shake my head when I hear people saying those words when doing speech to text on their Android or iPhone.

    Second reason, the UI on windows phones is just plain superior to Android, or iPhone. Live tiles, resizing tiles, moving tiles, the number of tiles you can put on the home screen.

    Oh, predictive text suggestions is another thing. On my phone I can practically type a complete text message without actually typing, by just use the predictive suggested words.

    I've never understood why Satya called Windows Phone/Mobile "evolutionary" when in my opinion it really was "revolutionary" compared to what was available at the time (and still is IMHO). I still show off my phone when people ask me "What phone is that?", I start showing off the cool features and such. It's only when I say "Windows..." they get weirded out

    I still stand by my opinion that MS did a **** poor job of advertising in the USA. I swear they hired someone that did the advertising for Apple, because their ads were just clone copies from Apple, expecting people to buy it. (I know they did the same thing for their brick and mortar stores... exact copies of Apple Stores).
    01-22-2018 08:43 AM
  7. Alfred Neequaye's Avatar
    Still have a 640XL as my daily driver still does all I need it to do.
    01-22-2018 08:54 AM
  8. toshdellapenna's Avatar
    Yeah, I don't think this thread went in the direction Zac expected. That is my biggest grip in the tone of the W10M articles for the last 6 months... essentially calling people dumb for continuing to use phones if they aren't impacted by the changes. Ever since Cortana added Smart Home integration I haven't even thought about changing OS's. It's not at the "move on, it's dead" point yet so I felt the message being hammered by the writers was irresponsible even though I was interested in the news they were reporting.
    My biggest issue is that Dan and Zac, who are two of my favorite writers and who's opinions I respect highly, abandoned Windows on Mobile almost overnight in favor of Android and the MS launcher. This surprised me not only because of how devout Microsoft fans they are, but also because they are lucky enough to be running Windows on Arm builds on their Elite x3's, yet they tossed them in a drawer in favor of Android. Meanwhile, us 100% faithful users aren't even able to get those builds, but we hang out because Android with Windows bolted on isn't a viable alternative :/
    01-22-2018 09:03 AM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    My biggest issue is that Dan and Zac, who are two of my favorite writers and who's opinions I respect highly, abandoned Windows on Mobile almost overnight in favor of Android and the MS launcher. This surprised me not only because of how devout Microsoft fans they are, but also because they are lucky enough to be running Windows on Arm builds on their Elite x3's, yet they tossed them in a drawer in favor of Android. Meanwhile, us 100% faithful users aren't even able to get those builds, but we hang out because Android with Windows bolted on isn't a viable alternative :/
    Although I made the switch to Android awhile ago, I understand your frustration. Yet, we all know that W10M as we know it is on its way out. I don't think it is reasonable to expect tech journalist professionals to keep promoting a dying platform.

    Their expertise are better used getting us onto what's coming next. WoA you say? Well, who knows when, or even if, that will happen? We have iOS, and we have Android, right now. Those two are the only viable alternatives for someone looking to move on.

    Sure, W10M still works. But it has been becoming, and will continue to become, less viable. Maybe WoA or whatever is coming next will be here before W10M is gone completely; maybe it won't. Either way, for most people it's time to move ahead. Don't expect Dan and Zac to spend their time giving us workarounds to keep W10M working.
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    01-22-2018 09:27 AM
  10. mtf1380's Avatar
    How is it light years ahead of Android? The notification center in Android is light yesterday ahead, split screen Android multi tasking is light years ahead, picture in picture is light screen ahead, the settings menu is light yesterday ahead, app store is light years ahead, and battery saving settings and battery menu is light years ahead on Android
    @Sedp23, with all due RESPECT, I think it's obvious that most people on this thread don't care what Andriod, or Apple, is offering (they will be out-dated in 6 mos anyway, and something new will come along...of course we hope it is a Microsoft not-a-phone, phone), we like the "to-the-point" ecosystem of Windows10 Mobile and, I for one, wish to continue using that unadulterated version of the ecosystem until I ABSOLUTELY have no other option :^)

    No offense to your choice intended, just "my" POV...cheers!

    "GO PATS!"
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    01-22-2018 09:32 AM
  11. toshdellapenna's Avatar
    I don't expect them not to cover the alternatives or the launchers/services for said platforms. What surprised me was how quick they went from geeking out on an early woa build to completely ignoring it. This sort of thing used to be their deal. I'm not surprised at all by the lack of coverage on Win10mo at all.
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    01-22-2018 09:37 AM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    I don't expect them not to cover the alternatives or the launchers/services for said platforms. What surprised me was how quick they went from geeking out on an early woa build to completely ignoring it. This sort of thing used to be their deal. I'm not surprised at all by the lack of coverage on Win10mo at all.
    What's there to cover if there isn't much going on? There's only oh so many times you can say the same thing often. I figure that they will have something to say when there's more information that they can find.
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    01-22-2018 09:42 AM
  13. toshdellapenna's Avatar
    Let's hope so. I'm hoping for the mystery Andromeda device. If that doesn't happen then it's onto a 7 or 8" sim based win 10 tablet for me.
    01-22-2018 09:46 AM
  14. Dono Newcomb's Avatar
    I really don't understand why we are even in this boat considering how much better the WP experience generally is. I have to say that all those developers who shunned Windows Phone back when they were in the 60 million+ user range, really need to kiss my posterior.
    I have wondered about this myself quite a bit, most people I have talked to who love their iDroids have never even used a windows phone. I wonder if when MS tried to break into the phone "Hardware" end of the market if the negative campaigning by the competition had that big of an impact on the market.
    01-22-2018 10:00 AM
  15. Christos Ringas's Avatar
    Why am I still using my Hp Elite X3??Why in 2018 no other phone maker has a 4100mAh battery? Yes Samsung, and Huawei have their own blend of continuum, but one of the latter...The note 8 has a much smaller battery, and the Huawei has a 4000mAh battery with a continuum like feature but no sd card support.I mean really,like the title says it's 2018 so why can't I find a phone in 2018 that gives me the best of Samsung and the battery life of Huawei??The Elite X3 can go a day and a bit in a single charge,I don't want to lug a portable charger for my phone like it's on life support, that's Microsoft's job with Windows 10 Mobile lol 😆😉
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    01-22-2018 10:03 AM
  16. gazzatopdude's Avatar
    Yes, i am using my Lumia 650, its only £10 per month compared to £20/£30 per month for most other phones.
    I also dont want Microsoft to fail.
    01-22-2018 10:18 AM
  17. Drael646464's Avatar
    My 950 does everything I need it too - navigation, browsing, social media. Cortana's intergration is nice for handsfree texts, and the PC intergration is nice too.

    People mostly use 4-6 apps, and I don't live on my phone. Why would I bother with android with its dearth of advertising, or apple with its locked in system?

    I only came recently into windows, and it makes sense for me. I think people are wasting a lot of money on phones TBH. They are handy, but they don't impress me much. I'd rather have a killer PC, or laptop, or even tablet - something with some real power.

    Some people act like phones are a genuine status symbol. That boat sailed awhile ago now. They ain't even that.

    Presumably MS will release something phone sized some time, with PC capability. Probably a flip dual screen with stylus. Eventually when the time comes down, I might go there. But really I'm just not that enamoured with phones. It's just a tool, it's not really "fun". For it to be fun, it'd actually have to be different, and they ain't they are all pretty similar.
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    01-22-2018 10:19 AM
  18. Drael646464's Avatar
    I don't expect them not to cover the alternatives or the launchers/services for said platforms. What surprised me was how quick they went from geeking out on an early woa build to completely ignoring it. This sort of thing used to be their deal. I'm not surprised at all by the lack of coverage on Win10mo at all.
    Yeah they seem to have virtually ignored windows on arm. Kinda weird that IMO.
    01-22-2018 10:22 AM
  19. tgp's Avatar
    Some people act like phones are a genuine status symbol. That boat sailed awhile ago now. They ain't even that.
    IDK, the only place I read or hear about phones being a status symbol is on a Microsoft fan forum such as this one. I think your line quoted above is needed here as much as anywhere!
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    01-22-2018 10:34 AM
  20. Pairadyce's Avatar
    Although I made the switch to Android awhile ago, I understand your frustration. Yet, we all know that W10M as we know it is on its way out. I don't think it is reasonable to expect tech journalist professionals to keep promoting a dying platform.

    Their expertise are better used getting us onto what's coming next. WoA you say? Well, who knows when, or even if, that will happen? We have iOS, and we have Android, right now. Those two are the only viable alternatives for someone looking to move on.

    Sure, W10M still works. But it has been becoming, and will continue to become, less viable. Maybe WoA or whatever is coming next will be here before W10M is gone completely; maybe it won't. Either way, for most people it's time to move ahead. Don't expect Dan and Zac to spend their time giving us workarounds to keep W10M working.
    I do want to hear about what's next but do you not think that every tech writer claiming the OS is dead, contributed a bit to the attempted crowd-funded devices (albeit the specs were underwhelming af)? If there is nothing to report on, then don't report. There are no Band articles yet that section still exists for some reason. I'm not saying don't report on happenings in Android or IOS but don't start off your Microsoft Launcher article with "Since W10M is dead...." or your IOS Cortana article with "Since 10M is dead..." talk about the topic and stop reiterating the same thing.

    I said in one of my comments that a company I was at bought 50 Windows 6.5 devices for couriers and warehousing. That ecosystem is technically dead but don't tell that to the companies still building software and supporting them and I don't have to read about it in every new Google and Apply article.
    Drael646464 likes this.
    01-22-2018 10:57 AM
  21. PAC757's Avatar
    OK well after a few years I went back to Windows Mobile, just started using my Lumia 735 on Verizon, been 4 hours and I'm done, pulling out the Sim card and putting it back in my Samsung S7. I didn't realize you can not longer send picture text messages, vital part of my job, and visual voicemail is more longer supported either. Verizon seems to try purposely to kill off Windows phone users. Wasted time calling Verizon as there is not a single employee in business support that actually knows anything about windows mobile OS. Oh well guess my windows phones are going on ebay, probably sell for a whole whopping $25
    01-22-2018 11:02 AM
  22. Claudio HLA's Avatar
    I use my L950XL has the main driver. I will be moving soon to a discounted Elite X3 that bought but the camera and camera button is keeping me from committing to the X3. So I guess I’m set for the next two years unless something really disastrous happens....and then I will evaluate the mobile landscape and move to something else.
    01-22-2018 12:31 PM
  23. Herb53's Avatar
    I have been holding out for a long time. I love my Lumia Icon. I feel that camera still outshines most current smartphone cameras out there. I'll truly miss the live tiles and everything else that is left on Windows Phone but I ordered a brand new Pixel 2 XL Saturday night. If Microsoft can come up with something new then I'll be back.
    01-22-2018 01:30 PM
  24. IdleMind's Avatar
    Still using my 950, and HP Elite phones. I don't see a need to switch. It does everything I want it to do. I can talk, text, browse the web, check the weather, and play Sudoku & 2048. Now if I couldn't play 2048 I might have to start looking. LoL But seriously, I don't have any lack using my phone so it's all good with me.
    01-22-2018 01:46 PM
  25. Jordi Macias's Avatar
    HP x3 Elite until it breaks. Considered replacing it, looked around, but did not find anything compelling. Waiting (hoping?) for the ultramobile PC with telephony...
    01-22-2018 02:19 PM
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