12-02-2012 03:20 PM
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  1. martinmc78's Avatar
    Going to get a Surface RT to play around with but have got my eye on the Kupa Ultranote for a W8 Pro tablet - Can have an i7 with 8gb ram in it and its got a swappable battery, stylus and its got a modular design so you can add card readers, usb hubs etc. No word on price though just a short video

    KUPA | Touch the Future
    11-14-2012 04:53 AM
  2. DougB541#CB's Avatar
    Surface RT here.
    11-14-2012 05:11 PM
  3. alaskanjackson's Avatar
    Surface RT 64GB x2...hopefully will pass them to the kids after the pro version is available. No problems to date, had to reinstall a few apps, but I don't think it was a hardware issue.
    11-14-2012 08:08 PM
  4. RTS2's Avatar
    I almost bought one but ultimately it was just too beastly to be used as a tablet all the time... for me. It didn't have smooth edges for one.. lots of ports yes but it was a really jagged slab. Also the battery life was a super downer.. 4.5 hours or so compared to 8 for a 13.3 inch yoga with similar specs.
    Thanks I was afraid of that :( it seems like there are no "perfect" convertible devices...there are features about many that I like but all seem to have compromises...surface Pro is probably closest that I want but concerned about battery life and how practical it will be to use as a tablet.

    I like the RT version but there are features of pro that I want/need. Thought atom device (Ativ Smart PC) would be OK but personally found it to be slow...

    I want to replace my laptop and my iPad but that seems to be more of a challenge than I expected :(
    11-14-2012 08:16 PM
  5. mark1914's Avatar
    I'm wanting one as well. A local seller has one for $575 including the touch keyboard. Is that a good deal?
    11-14-2012 08:31 PM
  6. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    Thanks I was afraid of that :( it seems like there are no "perfect" convertible devices...there are features about many that I like but all seem to have compromises...surface Pro is probably closest that I want but concerned about battery life and how practical it will be to use as a tablet.

    I like the RT version but there are features of pro that I want/need. Thought atom device (Ativ Smart PC) would be OK but personally found it to be slow...

    I want to replace my laptop and my iPad but that seems to be more of a challenge than I expected :(
    You might have to wait for Intel's Haswell then.
    11-15-2012 01:28 AM
  7. Jaymil's Avatar
    Thanks I was afraid of that :( it seems like there are no "perfect" convertible devices...there are features about many that I like but all seem to have compromises...surface Pro is probably closest that I want but concerned about battery life and how practical it will be to use as a tablet.

    I like the RT version but there are features of pro that I want/need. Thought atom device (Ativ Smart PC) would be OK but personally found it to be slow...

    I want to replace my laptop and my iPad but that seems to be more of a challenge than I expected :(





    Yeah I hear ya. I sold my samsung series 9 and my ipad/android tablet both in anticipation of windows 8 tablets. Days go by and no release dates or any info at all come out from Asus or Lenovo or anyone about any of these. I'm starting to lean towards just picking up another surface RT and then selling it when haswell tablets start coming out. I can live with no laptop just fine (allthough it's nice to have it when I need it) but I really miss having a tablet and I do love the hardware of the surface.
    11-15-2012 05:49 AM
  8. RTS2's Avatar
    I am thinking about doing the same thing and getting a surface RT and selling later.

    When are the Haswell tablets expected to start shipping and are there any rumored devices yet?
    11-15-2012 06:15 AM
  9. Jason De Castro's Avatar
    11-16-2012 01:12 AM
  10. csiguy1's Avatar
    I am buying 2 of the Lenova Lynx tablets when they hit the streets.
    11-16-2012 09:40 PM
  11. sketchy9's Avatar
    I was set on getting the Thinkpad Tablet 2 (really want an x86 tab for legacy programs) but got impatient with the neverending delays and decided to get whatever I could get my hands on. That turned out to be the Samsung Ativ Smart PC through AT&T. Here are some of my thoughts on it:

    The performance is actually pretty decent. I had an AMD C-50 netbook that I upgraded to Windows 8 and this was a step up from that. It opens Office 2010 programs and files without any significant hiccups (I haven't tried any crazy powerpoint presentations though). App switching is fast, web site rendering is fast, overall from a performance point of view I have no complaints. Also I haven't really gotten too involved with gaming on it-- that's what I have an Xbox for.

    The size is a mixed bag. It's very thin, no complaints there. The Clover Trail fanless processor is much appreciated in this regard. However, for me personally, 11.6" is probably too big for a tablet. I already have a desktop for heavy lifting, so screen size, keyboard size, etc. are less important to me. I want legacy compatibility in a compact package, and unfortunately this tablet doesn't quite meet my needs. I could live with it, but it's not my first choice. 1/2 a strike.

    I have some complaints specific to the AT&T version. I knew when I bought it that it doesn't come with an S-Pen (their version of the Wacom pen), but what I didn't know is that it most likely doesn't even have the digitizer in the screen (no evidence in device manager that it exists, plus the Wacom driver that is supplied repeatedly fails to install). That's bad because even purchasing Wacom pen on the side wouldn't help. Full strike for this.

    The second issue is the microSD slot. Yes, it's there, but it only supports SDHC, which means only up to 32GB. That's not a ton of storage, especially once you start adding music, TV shows, etc. Again, not an absolute deal breaker, but not ideal. Another 1/2 strike (up to 2 strikes now)

    FInally, and this is huge, the pricing is kind of outrageous compared to the wifi version, especially considering that the digitizer is probably absent. It's a full $150 more (off-contract price) just for the addition of an LTE radio (and subtraction of the digitizer). Sorry AT&T, but that's highway robbery. Again, at the time of purchase it didn't seem completely outrageous, but the digitizer thing really bothered me. One more strike, that means it's out and I'm returning it.

    It's too bad, in the three days I've had it I really like the tablet idea, Windows 8, and the processor/battery life combo. The good thing is that this scratched my itch in the short term, so I can now wait patiently for the perfect hardware combo that I'll be happy with.

    Speaking of which, I think I'm now going to consider the Dell Latitude 10 in addition to the Lenovo. The Dell doesn't have a pen silo built-in like the Lenovo, but it does have a swappable battery and a full-size SD slot. And the 4G radio is up in the air. I guess I'll have to see.

    -R
    11-17-2012 06:46 PM
  12. dseiden's Avatar
    Are you sure about the microsd slot on the ATT Ativ. I picked one up also and have my 64gb card running in there. I was also disappointed to find out that there was no digitizer which in the end may have me returning it.

    I have found the speed to be good for the apps that I want to run. Also having LTE built in is great. I had been tethering to my cell phone but having it on the tablet makes it more convenient to use when out and about.

    I was at the Microsoft Store yesterday and they had the Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro. I have to say that this was a nice unit. The digitizer was amazing which once again had me thinking of returning my ATT version. The pro model has the typical laptop vents all around so you know that fan is going to be running. The battery life was claimed at 8 hours but even the sales guy guessed 6 in the real world. They had not had it long enough to see how hot the back got in use which would be a drawback of a unit with i5 processor.

    In the end I am still torn between keeping the ATT version with LTE and returning it for the non LTE version with digitizer or the pro version. I really like the Samsung design with the speakers facing you.. just seems to make sense.
    11-18-2012 09:38 AM
  13. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    I was set on getting the Thinkpad Tablet 2 (really want an x86 tab for legacy programs) but got impatient with the neverending delays and decided to get whatever I could get my hands on. That turned out to be the Samsung Ativ Smart PC through AT&T. Here are some of my thoughts on it:

    -R
    Are you sure about the microsd slot on the ATT Ativ. I picked one up also and have my 64gb card running in there. I was also disappointed to find out that there was no digitizer which in the end may have me returning it.
    Did either of you get the keyboard dock too from AT&T when you tried out the Ativ Smart PC?
    11-18-2012 11:53 AM
  14. lkbig's Avatar
    Surface Pro or Lenovo Thinkpad 2. Waiting to see full reviews on both of them before I decide.
    11-18-2012 12:07 PM
  15. cbixby's Avatar
    I just picked up my Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro (700t) @ the MS Store. I got the i5 128g SD. I have been waiting for this thing forever!! So glad to finally get it!! From what I understand I am one of the first to own one so let me know if anyone has any questions about it (I'll give the lowdown on battery consumption with the i5).
    11-18-2012 12:11 PM
  16. sketchy9's Avatar
    Are you sure about the microsd slot on the ATT Ativ. I picked one up also and have my 64gb card running in there. I was also disappointed to find out that there was no digitizer which in the end may have me returning it.

    I have found the speed to be good for the apps that I want to run. Also having LTE built in is great. I had been tethering to my cell phone but having it on the tablet makes it more convenient to use when out and about.

    I was at the Microsoft Store yesterday and they had the Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro. I have to say that this was a nice unit. The digitizer was amazing which once again had me thinking of returning my ATT version. The pro model has the typical laptop vents all around so you know that fan is going to be running. The battery life was claimed at 8 hours but even the sales guy guessed 6 in the real world. They had not had it long enough to see how hot the back got in use which would be a drawback of a unit with i5 processor.

    In the end I am still torn between keeping the ATT version with LTE and returning it for the non LTE version with digitizer or the pro version. I really like the Samsung design with the speakers facing you.. just seems to make sense.
    I was going off the published specs as I didn't have a 64GB card handy, but obviously if you've got it working then that's pretty definitive. It's a nice piece of kit, no doubt, and the LTE was very useful. I just can't justify paying that kind of money for a tablet that, ultimately, is too big for me and doesn't have the digitizer. The Lenovo's published specs claim AT&T LTE compatibility, while the Dell is a little vague on that point. It sucks because I really want a tablet NOW, but I think that I'd be better off waiting and getting a tablet that is more to my liking.

    -R
    11-18-2012 12:34 PM
  17. sketchy9's Avatar
    Did either of you get the keyboard dock too from AT&T when you tried out the Ativ Smart PC?
    No, honestly I'm not really interested in a keyboard dock. I'd prefer some sort of docking station with USB ports (so I could hook up a full-size keyboard and normal mouse while at work), and otherwise it would be a tablet. Also, I hear that the keyboard docks are even harder to find than the tablets themselves.

    -R
    11-18-2012 12:37 PM
  18. dseiden's Avatar
    I ended up with the Microsoft wedge Bluetooth keyboard that comes with a cover/ tablet stand. I figured it was a bit more portable for me.

    I am interested the battery life of the pro version which I saw in the MS store yesterday. Was tempting.
    11-18-2012 03:26 PM
  19. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    No, honestly I'm not really interested in a keyboard dock. I'd prefer some sort of docking station with USB ports (so I could hook up a full-size keyboard and normal mouse while at work), and otherwise it would be a tablet. Also, I hear that the keyboard docks are even harder to find than the tablets themselves.

    -R
    Yeah, I was hoping someone would know if the AT&T keyboard dock is the exact same one for the Wi-Fi only version of the ATIV Smart PC, since AT&T is selling their keyboard dock for only $49.

    So the docking solution you're looking for is more like what the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 has for a dock, right?
    11-18-2012 04:07 PM
  20. sketchy9's Avatar
    Yeah, I was hoping someone would know if the AT&T keyboard dock is the exact same one for the Wi-Fi only version of the ATIV Smart PC, since AT&T is selling their keyboard dock for only $49.

    So the docking solution you're looking for is more like what the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 has for a dock, right?
    Yes, exactly, and the Dell has the same sort of dock. I just think that the most likely time I would need a keyboard is at my desk at work, and in that case I would want a full-size keyboard and a real mouse (and an ethernet port). If I'm on a plane or on vacation or whatever I could make do with the on-screen keyboard. That's why the digitizer is so important to me: not only would it be a mouse surrogate when I'm not near a real one, but I could also use handwriting recognition on my tablet if I got sick of tapping on the virtual keyboard.

    As far as the keyboard dock being sold by AT&T, my suspicion is that it would work with the wifi-only Ativ as well. The physical dimensions and connector ports are the same for both versions of the tablet.

    -R
    11-18-2012 06:02 PM
  21. waltah's Avatar
    I think I'm picking up the Samsung Ativ with AT&T LTE this week. It's only $10/month on my plan and I have a 15gb data share plan that I don't use all of. I was considering the Asus at first, but I don't think I want to be limited to the Windows Store for apps. If I want to watch things I've purchased over the years from Apple I can install iTunes and things like Sonos Controller and MOG are apps I use every day that aren't available in the store.
    Not getting a keyboard as I'll be using it as a tablet, but may pick up the stand. I'll also be getting the Belkin folio case for it.
    I'm picking up a Surface RT for my GF for Christmas so lots of MSFT gear getting added to our house along with my Lumia 920:)
    11-19-2012 08:52 PM
  22. Funtastic Software's Avatar
    Really wanted a Surface Pro at release date, but was disappointed when they only announced RT for sale. Thought about getting a Thinkpad Tablet 2 instead, but im still on the fence...
    11-20-2012 02:24 AM
  23. luminus's Avatar
    Ordered one of those $400 Acer W510 32gb tablet last night from the MS Store sales online. Will report back with impression once it arrives. So excited! :D
    11-27-2012 05:54 PM
  24. dseiden's Avatar
    I think I'm picking up the Samsung Ativ with AT&T LTE this week. It's only $10/month on my plan and I have a 15gb data share plan that I don't use all of. I was considering the Asus at first, but I don't think I want to be limited to the Windows Store for apps. If I want to watch things I've purchased over the years from Apple I can install iTunes and things like Sonos Controller and MOG are apps I use every day that aren't available in the store.
    Not getting a keyboard as I'll be using it as a tablet, but may pick up the stand. I'll also be getting the Belkin folio case for it.
    I'm picking up a Surface RT for my GF for Christmas so lots of MSFT gear getting added to our house along with my Lumia 920:)
    Just wanted to make sure you know that the AT&T Ativ Smart PC doesn't have a digitizer. Did not see that as something that you mentioned wanting to use but some people have purchased it and not known that it was not included.

    It is a great device overall. I am sure you will love it.
    11-27-2012 07:26 PM
  25. gedzum's Avatar
    I'd like to get a Surface Pro, but the Asus Vivo Tab and Lenovo ThinkPad tablet 2 have got me thinking. Decisions decions
    11-28-2012 12:42 PM
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