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  1. PerfectReign's Avatar
    So far has effected me with Waze and Onstar RemoteLink.
    Oh that's awful. I was using Waze last night on my SGS 6 and realized how bad the Google version is now.




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    05-17-2017 03:21 PM
  2. camaroz1985's Avatar
    I think that is just the Waze version now. Same on iOS and Android. I do like the old UI that we had on Windows Phone better though.
    05-18-2017 08:45 AM
  3. HeyCori's Avatar
    Assuming nothing groundbreaking is announced within the next year, I'm pretty sure the KEYone will be my next phone. I'm so disillusioned with the ubiquitousness of boring, slate touchscreens that something has to be unique before I would even consider buying it. There are countless quality Android phones to choose from, and they all have good screens and take great pictures, but what I really want is a device that fundamentally changes how I use it. Plus, I'm sure the KEYone will get a price drop within a year.
    05-18-2017 11:00 AM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    Assuming nothing groundbreaking is announced within the next year, I'm pretty sure the KEYone will be my next phone. I'm so disillusioned with the ubiquitousness of boring, slate touchscreens that something has to be unique before I would even consider buying it. There are countless quality Android phones to choose from, and they all have good screens and take great pictures, but what I really want is a device that fundamentally changes how I use it. Plus, I'm sure the KEYone will get a price drop within a year.
    If/when you get the KEYone, I;m so looking forward to your impressions. I agree, I love how refreshing it is and that battery life is amazing apparently.
    05-18-2017 11:06 AM
  5. Travis Flenker's Avatar
    I posted a while back about switching to the S8+ and my overall positive experience with the switch. It's been a couple weeks and I thought I'd give an update now that I've had more time with it.

    -Bixby is awful and I miss the full functionality of Cortana. I have no idea what Bixby is supposed to do other than randomly pop up because it's launched by a physical button that's opposite the power button so it's nearly impossible to miss when waking the phone. There are a couple apps that let you launch something else (pretty janky in the way they work), but I'd rather that button not exist. Bixby's current state doesn't even do voice recognition (what's the point?!?!?).
    -I know around here we tend to minimize the app gap (and for the most part I agree), but the availability of banking apps is a huge deal. I no longer have to borrow my girlfriend's phone to deposit checks.
    -I miss the UI. W10 style launchers help but live tiles are awesome and I don't think there's any real replacement for them on Android.
    -Camera is good. Haven't done any side by side comparisons but I'd be shocked if it's not at least as good as the 950.
    -DeX requires the Samsung dock which is just stupid.
    -The screen is gorgeous. Blows the 950 out of the water which has a great screen.
    -Swipe style typing, while an improvement over W10M, has some issues primarily due to the size of the screen and my palm touching the edges. Annoying but addressable by altering the keyboard.
    -There are several overlapping apps that are just plain confusing (e.g. Samsung Pay vs Android Pay, Bixby vs Google whatever it is, etc.)
    -MS apps are generally better on Android than on W10M, but the Outlook App is driving me nuts. Doesn't updated the # of emails on the home screen and the way it manages multiple accounts makes my head hurt. I've given it a solid try and am going to look for an alternative.
    -I hate Bixby. Did I mention that?

    That all said, the S8+ is great. No regrets on switching. A few small changes and it would be perfect. Being able to replace Bixby w/ Cortana, getting live tiles, and more seamless integration with One Drive would pretty well make me not miss W10M at all.
    05-18-2017 01:10 PM
  6. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Assuming nothing groundbreaking is announced within the next year, I'm pretty sure the KEYone will be my next phone. I'm so disillusioned with the ubiquitousness of boring, slate touchscreens that something has to be unique before I would even consider buying it. There are countless quality Android phones to choose from, and they all have good screens and take great pictures, but what I really want is a device that fundamentally changes how I use it. Plus, I'm sure the KEYone will get a price drop within a year.
    I'm so looking forward to your take on the KEYone. The Priv 's battery life is such a downer on an otherwise great piece of kit. I don't know if I could trade the Priv's Schnauzer-Hasenpfeffer camera (or whatever it's called) for better battery life though.
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    05-18-2017 01:21 PM
  7. camaroz1985's Avatar
    You should be able to set Cortana as your default voice assistant. Are you sure you have the focused inbox turned off in Outlook? If it is, and it still doesn't work for you, you might want to try Nine. It is kind of expensive, but does have a free trial, and the email, calendar, and contacts integration is great, as are the widgets.

    The UI is what I missed most about W10M, and ultimately what brought me back. I definitely understand what you are saying about the banking app, which is pretty much the only app I miss on W10M compared to iOS and Android. It is also frustrating how much faster OneDrive works on both iOS and Android. When uploading large files I find my W10M and even W10 apps struggle, usually resulting in an error, but iOS and Android have no problem.

    If Onedrive could integrate into pictures on either iOS or Android the way it does on W10M, I might be even more tempted to switch. I know I could migrate all my pictures over to Google Drive or iCloud, but I like OneDrive, and I have 1 TB of storage. I have all my music stored on there too, and using my sign-in info my wife can listen to it all on her iPhone too with Groove Music. It works great! Maybe I could do the same with the other storage options, I just haven't looked too far into it.
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    05-18-2017 01:29 PM
  8. Travis Flenker's Avatar
    You should be able to set Cortana as your default voice assistant. Are you sure you have the focused inbox turned off in Outlook? If it is, and it still doesn't work for you, you might want to try Nine. It is kind of expensive, but does have a free trial, and the email, calendar, and contacts integration is great, as are the widgets.

    The UI is what I missed most about W10M, and ultimately what brought me back. I definitely understand what you are saying about the banking app, which is pretty much the only app I miss on W10M compared to iOS and Android. It is also frustrating how much faster OneDrive works on both iOS and Android. When uploading large files I find my W10M and even W10 apps struggle, usually resulting in an error, but iOS and Android have no problem.

    If Onedrive could integrate into pictures on either iOS or Android the way it does on W10M, I might be even more tempted to switch. I know I could migrate all my pictures over to Google Drive or iCloud, but I like OneDrive, and I have 1 TB of storage. I have all my music stored on there too, and using my sign-in info my wife can listen to it all on her iPhone too with Groove Music. It works great! Maybe I could do the same with the other storage options, I just haven't looked too far into it.
    The Outlook app overall is just unpolished and lacks some key features (e.g. showing # mails on the home screen and having the option to have a specific inbox pinned to the home screen). Trying out BlueMail right now which addresses both of these via a widget, looks more polished/better navigation, and has a dark theme to boot.

    No idea how to get rid of Bixby without rooting the phone. Samsung really wants you to use it. Cortana is on my home screen, but it's just not the same.

    Photo syncing works okay - they at least upload to OneDrive automatically.

    I did miss that in my review. The OneDrive integration in W10 is great. Miss that a lot but it's at least been manageable so far.
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    05-18-2017 01:57 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The Outlook app overall is just unpolished and lacks some key features (e.g. showing # mails on the home screen and having the option to have a specific inbox pinned to the home screen). Trying out BlueMail right now which addresses both of these via a widget, looks more polished/better navigation, and has a dark theme to boot.

    No idea how to get rid of Bixby without rooting the phone. Samsung really wants you to use it. Cortana is on my home screen, but it's just not the same.

    Photo syncing works okay - they at least upload to OneDrive automatically.

    I did miss that in my review. The OneDrive integration in W10 is great. Miss that a lot but it's at least been manageable so far.
    The BlackBerry Hub suite is IMO, the closest thing to Outlook on W10M as it allows pinning individual accounts to your home screen, per account signatures and notifications including LED colors. Free for 30 days and $.99/month after. Unless you don't care about ads then it's always free. Oh, dark theme too.
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    05-18-2017 02:25 PM
  10. dov1978's Avatar
    I posted a while back about switching to the S8+ and my overall positive experience with the switch. It's been a couple weeks and I thought I'd give an update now that I've had more time with it.

    -Bixby is awful and I miss the full functionality of Cortana. I have no idea what Bixby is supposed to do other than randomly pop up because it's launched by a physical button that's opposite the power button so it's nearly impossible to miss when waking the phone. There are a couple apps that let you launch something else (pretty janky in the way they work), but I'd rather that button not exist. Bixby's current state doesn't even do voice recognition (what's the point?!?!?).
    -I know around here we tend to minimize the app gap (and for the most part I agree), but the availability of banking apps is a huge deal. I no longer have to borrow my girlfriend's phone to deposit checks.
    -I miss the UI. W10 style launchers help but live tiles are awesome and I don't think there's any real replacement for them on Android.
    -Camera is good. Haven't done any side by side comparisons but I'd be shocked if it's not at least as good as the 950.
    -DeX requires the Samsung dock which is just stupid.
    -The screen is gorgeous. Blows the 950 out of the water which has a great screen.
    -Swipe style typing, while an improvement over W10M, has some issues primarily due to the size of the screen and my palm touching the edges. Annoying but addressable by altering the keyboard.
    -There are several overlapping apps that are just plain confusing (e.g. Samsung Pay vs Android Pay, Bixby vs Google whatever it is, etc.)
    -MS apps are generally better on Android than on W10M, but the Outlook App is driving me nuts. Doesn't updated the # of emails on the home screen and the way it manages multiple accounts makes my head hurt. I've given it a solid try and am going to look for an alternative.
    -I hate Bixby. Did I mention that?

    That all said, the S8+ is great. No regrets on switching. A few small changes and it would be perfect. Being able to replace Bixby w/ Cortana, getting live tiles, and more seamless integration with One Drive would pretty well make me not miss W10M at all.
    Bixby is still very much a work in progress and it was launched a pretty prematurely. It will be good when it matures. Google Assistant/Google app is still the primary voice assistant/AI on the s8 or any other android for that matter. I've got Cortana installed too but barely use it as it's not baked in so to speak and just use it on my 950xl instead
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    05-18-2017 04:30 PM
  11. mikepalma's Avatar
    After getting an iPhone and realize the absolute crapware that I have been toiling with w10m, I see no reason to check windows central. Dan and others may profess to disagree, but the tech world is really all about phones. This website will disappear over time. Wishful thinking won't change that...
    Last edited by mikepalma; 05-23-2017 at 05:50 AM.
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    05-23-2017 05:16 AM
  12. SeeVuPlay's Avatar
    That's nice....
    05-23-2017 05:23 AM
  13. Ejay Lozano's Avatar
    That's one unhappy camper.
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    05-23-2017 05:25 AM
  14. Drael646464's Avatar
    I'm not really sure what the appropriate response is here. I feel like you should discuss this with your therapist, whatever is getting you down right now!

    PS. The world is absolutely not about phones. You will not take your last breath on your deathbed and think "god I wish I'd brought an iPhone 10" before shrugging off your mortal coil. Phones are literally one of the least important things their are.

    Take it easy :)
    05-23-2017 05:36 AM
  15. mikepalma's Avatar
    I'm not really sure what the appropriate response is here. I feel like you should discuss this with your therapist, whatever is getting you down right now!

    PS. The world is absolutely not about phones. You will not take your last breath on your deathbed and think "god I wish I'd brought an iPhone 10" before shrugging off your mortal coil. Phones are literally one of the least important things their are.

    Take it easy :)
    Typical response...

    The tech world is about phones. Keep your head in the sand...thanks for coming

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    05-23-2017 05:48 AM
  16. Drael646464's Avatar
    Typical response...

    The tech world is about phones. Keep your head in the sand...thanks for coming

    Sent from mTalk
    Your post has literally nothing to do with "the tech world", it's about your personal anger, but even if we were talking about tech:

    Only a consumer would think that way. Phones are last years cash cow. We are at market saturation there with phones, it's only negative growth from here with device turnover slowing, and everyone's looking for the next big thing, not just MS.

    Phone's are looking about as innovative as microwaves right about now.

    If the tech world is about phones googles new mantra wouldn't be "AI first" )They created a special kind of server module for machine learning- AI is their big focus now), and apple wouldn't be quietly buying AI companies left right and center (or ms), and investing in a secret AR project, nor would facebook have siphoned some major percentage of their staff off for some secret VR project. Literally no one who makes serious money from tech, is putting all their serious investment cash behind phone technology. That speaks volumes of where that market is at, although any economist or tech market insider knew this was coming.

    I'm sure you will take what I said very level headly however, given you started this thread from your calm objective place.
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    05-23-2017 06:10 AM
  17. libra89's Avatar
    Oh I forgot to update here too. My Pixel has been fixed and it's been nice to have it back. The mic issue it had has been fixed but now the occasional hollow sim issue is annoying me so I'm just going to stay on the SE for a while. That's been a solid phone for me and if anything, phones should be at least that.

    I'm just going to take an Android break for a bit. Maybe I'll try again when something small comes out and is solid. Since the trend seems to be taller and curved displays, it will probably be months...
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    05-23-2017 08:30 AM
  18. camaroz1985's Avatar
    That's a shame. What is the hollow SIM issue? So are you selling the Pixel now?

    I am going to use the SE for a little while too. I might put the beta for Android O on my Pixel and see how that goes. It seems like a small update though with not too much exciting (at least to me, though I do like the notification "dots"). Of course I will probably miss W10M and come back to my 950 at some point too. I should give myself a date where I"m not allowed to switch until that time, but I'm weak, and having all 3 phones up and running makes it even harder.
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    05-23-2017 08:54 AM
  19. SeeVuPlay's Avatar
    great response....It all makes sense; as much as I (consumer) want a new windows 10 phone, only IOS and Android are able to put out those devices as things are right now.

    Original poster is busy launching millions of apps on his iphone.....we lost another good one :)
    05-23-2017 09:03 AM
  20. Drael646464's Avatar
    great response....It all makes sense; as much as I (consumer) want a new windows 10 phone, only IOS and Android are able to put out those devices as things are right now.

    Original poster is busy launching millions of apps on his iphone.....we lost another good one :)
    Actually I think windows 10m could use a new phone.

    Installed userbase is ~2.5% but quarterly sales have dipped to ~0.5%. The nokias are two years old, and the alcatel is US only (will be going to Europe, but isn't yet), and the HP is too expensive. In order to sell phones to those current users, you need something fresh (even though the 950 is a great phone, marketing splash depends on "new", you can see that with the last surface, its sales were dipping and it was very popular).


    So we need a reasonably priced flagship, and a new midrange really. Or at least global 4s pro.
    Probably MS can't really release a phone its own, it needs to hone the platform first.

    A 4s refresh, or a wiley fox phone would probably up quarterly marketshare given the userbase isn't as bad as people make out.
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    05-23-2017 09:27 AM
  21. meattray's Avatar
    a lot of the tech world is based around mobile devices and a lot of people believe Microsoft is close to delivering that next game changer like they have with the surface lineup. This website won't go away as they have such a diversified portfolio of offerings that theres always going to be something to talk about.
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    05-23-2017 09:40 AM
  22. LumPhile's Avatar
    I often wonder what's going on, psychologically, when persons feel an irresistible compunction to post, on a Windows-centric site, that they have left the platform and are prophesying the demise of the site. Could it be a bad case of Buyers Remorse at play?....a desperate attempt to banish dissonance and reestablish coherence?
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    05-23-2017 09:56 AM
  23. tgp's Avatar
    What is the hollow SIM issue?
    @libra89 I'm curious about this too. I do recall you mentioning something about SIM card issues awhile ago, but I do not remember the details.

    Which carrier are you using? I'm on Verizon, and I've swapped my SIM card between factory unlocked devices for more than two years on both iOS and Android, and I've never had a single issue. In fact, once I got my account activated, I've never even gotten a new SIM card (at least not that I recall). I believe I have the same nano SIM card from sometime around October 2014.
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    05-23-2017 10:00 AM
  24. G4Grandad's Avatar
    Yes, I'd love an affordable new Windows phone too but it ain't gonna happen anytime soon. Luckily my almost 3 year old L830 still does everything I need and the Windows Central community has been here to help out a number of times when I had problems I couldn't sort out myself. I don't have a tablet, laptop or desktop computer so Yes, most of the content here has no appeal for me. And Yes, when I read all the stuff from the trolls and whingers I agree with some of it and laugh out loud at the rest. So Windows Central is both useful and entertaining for me. I hope mikepalma enjoys his iPhone but keeps coming back to the forums occasionally to stir things up.
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    05-23-2017 10:04 AM
  25. Drael646464's Avatar
    Yes, I'd love an affordable new Windows phone too but it ain't gonna happen anytime soon. Luckily my almost 3 year old L830 still does everything I need and the Windows Central community has been here to help out a number of times when I had problems I couldn't sort out myself. I don't have a tablet, laptop or desktop computer so Yes, most of the content here has no appeal for me. And Yes, when I read all the stuff from the trolls and whingers I agree with some of it and laugh out loud at the rest. So Windows Central is both useful and entertaining for me. I hope mikepalma enjoys his iPhone but keeps coming back to the forums occasionally to stir things up.
    Wileyfox and a Windows 10 Mobile smartphone by Q3

    Might not come with compatible frequencies, but there's this.

    And there's also this:

    https://www.onmsft.com/news/coship-s...-boots-android

    Although it doesn't have a release date, so don't think that's carved in stone, and we don't know about price.

    If your outside the US, there's a European version of the 4s pro coming there, although its still a little pricey.

    You can also get cheapish refurbished lumias from aliexpress. That's where I ordered mine from (a 950, for approx. 205 usd).
    05-23-2017 10:17 AM
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