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  1. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Folks moving to the V20, let me know if you run into the bootloop issue plz.
    No bootloop here.
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    11-13-2017 02:09 AM
  2. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I read a statement from LG and they blamed it on a bad USB-C cable. Maybe I should order an additional cable just to be safe.
    I'm using the cable I received with the phone, and I haven't had any problems. I did purchase a battery charger and spare battery from Amazon, so I'm able to swap batteries if needed. However, I've always gotten through the day with over 40% battery left. I'm a heavy user, especially since I do the majority of mod work here at WC and also at AC on mobile, rather than in desktop.
    HeyCori, libra89 and mark233 like this.
    11-13-2017 02:14 AM
  3. Wolfjt's Avatar
    Folks moving to the V20, let me know if you run into the bootloop issue plz.
    My V10 went into bootloop a month after the warranty period. Pissed me off so much that I now swear off LG.
    11-13-2017 10:09 AM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    This switching thing is starting to get a little old. That's what happens when you have 3 different OSes with distinct benefits and deficits. Not only is it a pain to wade through the plusses and minuses of the OS itself, there are hardware considerations to make as well. It seems like there's always this one irritating aspect of the "perfect" phone that throws a monkey wrench into the equation. Be it sucka$$ camera (I'm looking at you Idol 4S) or crappy battery life (Xperia XZ) or flaky power "button" (any iPhone after 6S).

    I miss Roseanne Rosanadana - "it's always something"!
    I'm going to requote you to add my gripes, but before doing that, I'm curious which one you are currently dealing with as a phone, out of the issues?

    I generally agree but I figure that I'll share my own, just because.
    iPhone SE: weakest radios, weak ffc, lame battery life (thanks updates!) out of the listed phones
    Galaxy A3 2017: 16gb internal storage (sd card support though), performance can be mixed at times
    Google Pixel: okay battery life (less than a day), biggest phone so less pocketable

    My gripes are lesser than yours but ones nonetheless. Currently choosing the A3 because I was able to flash it to Nougat, which doesn't fix the storage thing and performance is too early to tell but it seems fine mostly. Seems like the best choice for me at the moment.
    Guytronic likes this.
    11-14-2017 10:49 AM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'm going to requote you to add my gripes, but before doing that, I'm curious which one you are currently dealing with as a phone, out of the issues?

    I generally agree but I figure that I'll share my own, just because.
    iPhone SE: weakest radios, weak ffc, lame battery life (thanks updates!) out of the listed phones
    Galaxy A3 2017: 16gb internal storage (sd card support though), performance can be mixed at times
    Google Pixel: okay battery life (less than a day), biggest phone so less pocketable

    My gripes are lesser than yours but ones nonetheless. Currently choosing the A3 because I was able to flash it to Nougat, which doesn't fix the storage thing and performance is too early to tell but it seems fine mostly. Seems like the best choice for me at the moment.
    Gripes are gripes no matter who's they are. I wish people would understand that so there would be less trolling. For the record, I'm using the XZ for now. I find their clean UI better than others (Android) and the phone just feels solid. Battery life is atrocious but with the charging station in my truck I can top off in no time. There is no such thing as a 10 minute trip in Miami so there's always plenty of time to charge.
    11-14-2017 12:35 PM
  6. libra89's Avatar
    Gripes are gripes no matter who's they are. I wish people would understand that so there would be less trolling. For the record, I'm using the XZ for now. I find their clean UI better than others (Android) and the phone just feels solid. Battery life is atrocious but with the charging station in my truck I can top off in no time. There is no such thing as a 10 minute trip in Miami so there's always plenty of time to charge.
    So true! I agree about Sony's UI, and that sounds like a plan. I was just curious to know.
    11-14-2017 02:21 PM
  7. Nate W's Avatar
    Anyone here or browsing through used Ubuntu Touch yet?
    11-14-2017 04:44 PM
  8. Timbre70's Avatar
    I'm going to requote you to add my gripes, but before doing that, I'm curious which one you are currently dealing with as a phone, out of the issues?

    I generally agree but I figure that I'll share my own, just because.
    iPhone SE: weakest radios, weak ffc, lame battery life (thanks updates!) out of the listed phones
    Galaxy A3 2017: 16gb internal storage (sd card support though), performance can be mixed at times
    Google Pixel: okay battery life (less than a day), biggest phone so less pocketable

    My gripes are lesser than yours but ones nonetheless. Currently choosing the A3 because I was able to flash it to Nougat, which doesn't fix the storage thing and performance is too early to tell but it seems fine mostly. Seems like the best choice for me at the moment.
    Do you mean iPhone se has poor signal reception? Now contemplating on either se or Nokia 8 which cost about the same in my country.
    11-14-2017 05:24 PM
  9. TgeekB's Avatar
    I'm going to requote you to add my gripes, but before doing that, I'm curious which one you are currently dealing with as a phone, out of the issues?

    I generally agree but I figure that I'll share my own, just because.
    iPhone SE: weakest radios, weak ffc, lame battery life (thanks updates!) out of the listed phones
    Galaxy A3 2017: 16gb internal storage (sd card support though), performance can be mixed at times
    Google Pixel: okay battery life (less than a day), biggest phone so less pocketable

    My gripes are lesser than yours but ones nonetheless. Currently choosing the A3 because I was able to flash it to Nougat, which doesn't fix the storage thing and performance is too early to tell but it seems fine mostly. Seems like the best choice for me at the moment.
    iPhone se has weak radios and lame battery life?
    I’m running the latest update and my battery life is still exceptional. I haven’t noticed and weak radios either.
    Interesting.
    11-14-2017 05:47 PM
  10. Timbre70's Avatar
    I read most reviews with good radios. So a bit surprised. For the same price, se is enticing since I don't have to deal with loads of ads. On the other hand, Nokia 8 has some attractions to sway me too 😊.
    11-14-2017 06:56 PM
  11. libra89's Avatar
    Do you mean iPhone se has poor signal reception? Now contemplating on either se or Nokia 8 which cost about the same in my country.
    Nope, that's not what I mean. The radios are fine. It's just not as speedy when it comes to LTE speeds over phones such as the Pixel. Check out GSMArena to compare the two phones.
    iPhone se has weak radios and lame battery life?
    I’m running the latest update and my battery life is still exceptional. I haven’t noticed and weak radios either.
    Interesting.
    This is something that you notice in weak/fringe areas really. If everywhere you go has great signal, it wouldn't make a difference for you. That's not the case for me at all so this is something I notice.

    Improved phone radios make a difference between losing signal in a fringe area and holding on to one.

    In regards to battery life, coming from iOS 9 to present has a battery life difference. I might have to try a hard reset but I can't be bothered. The Pixel has way stronger and faster radios.
    11-14-2017 07:17 PM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    I read most reviews with good radios. So a bit surprised. For the same price, se is enticing since I don't have to deal with loads of ads. On the other hand, Nokia 8 has some attractions to sway me too .
    Please check out how I responded to you before this post. It's not something to worry about at all.
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    11-14-2017 07:18 PM
  13. TgeekB's Avatar
    Nope, that's not what I mean. The radios are fine. It's just not as speedy when it comes to LTE speeds over phones such as the Pixel. Check out GSMArena to compare the two phones.This is something that you notice in weak/fringe areas really. If everywhere you go has great signal, it wouldn't make a difference for you. That's not the case for me at all so this is something I notice.

    Improved phone radios make a difference between losing signal in a fringe area and holding on to one.

    In regards to battery life, coming from iOS 9 to present has a battery life difference. I might have to try a hard reset but I can't be bothered. The Pixel has way stronger and faster radios.
    That could be. I have pretty good coverage where I go.

    The SE has the best battery life I’ve ever seen, even on 11. Especially for the size.
    11-14-2017 07:19 PM
  14. libra89's Avatar
    That could be. I have pretty good coverage where I go.

    The SE has the best battery life I’ve ever seen, even on 11. Especially for the size.
    In that case, you're good.

    Better than the 7? I can't recall if you still have one or not. I can't get more than 20 hours before hitting 40% on it which makes me sad because I used to get like 24-26 hours before.
    Additionally, when I say lame battery life, my A3 can run a circle around it. Everything else just falls short.
    11-14-2017 07:27 PM
  15. TgeekB's Avatar
    In that case, you're good.

    Better than the 7? I can't recall if you still have one or not. I can't get more than 20 hours before hitting 40% on it which makes me sad because I used to get like 24-26 hours before.
    Yup, I still have the 7 and the SE has better battery life (for me). In fact I’ve been using my SE because I got a 7 for work and this way I don’t mix them up.
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    11-14-2017 07:28 PM
  16. camaroz1985's Avatar
    SE has much better battery life than my wife's 7, and I am using mine much more than she does. She consistently hits 10% around 8 or 9 PM. I can go to bed at 11 with over 30, and I use mine to listen to podcasts or music over bluetooth about 10 hours a day. SE is on par with the 7 plus, maybe even slightly better.
    libra89 and TgeekB like this.
    11-15-2017 10:24 AM
  17. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Anyone here or browsing through used Ubuntu Touch yet?
    Back in the day... After webOS I was drifting around on Android and I had a Nexus 4. I sampled 3 different OS's on it.
    Ubuntu Touch
    Sailfish
    Firefox OS

    Of the three I liked Sailfish best and Firefox least. Ubuntu was alright. Aren't they withdrawn now?
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    11-15-2017 02:34 PM
  18. Nate W's Avatar
    Back in the day... After webOS I was drifting around on Android and I had a Nexus 4. I sampled 3 different OS's on it.
    Ubuntu Touch
    Sailfish
    Firefox OS

    Of the three I liked Sailfish best and Firefox least. Ubuntu was alright. Aren't they withdrawn now?
    Not completely it seems. But not alive and kicking either...
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    11-15-2017 04:19 PM
  19. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Not completely it seems. But not alive and kicking either...
    Ask away, we'll see what I remember... You might also check XDA forums for some chatter. Last I looked it was pretty stale.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    11-15-2017 04:26 PM
  20. Nate W's Avatar
    The devices that are supported, list 3 active mobile phone ports supported by Ubports (one plus one, Nexus 5, and Fair Phone 2) and there are 3 official phones supported by ubuntu. I was looking and saw the 3 ports are running version 15 LTS with support through version 16.

    I will keep looking. I have a feeling it could end up being a dead end, but still wanted to try it for myself. I found a cheap oneplus and should get it this week.

    Edited my original post.
    Last edited by Nate W; 11-15-2017 at 05:27 PM.
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    11-15-2017 05:16 PM
  21. Nate W's Avatar
    Ask away, we'll see what I remember... You might also check XDA forums for some chatter. Last I looked it was pretty stale.
    What did you dislike about it?
    11-15-2017 05:28 PM
  22. RumoredNow's Avatar
    @Nate W it seems that they started out great with a heavily gesture oriented UI, then they moved more toward Android style home pages and they decided that users needed a page for music and a page for video. It looked like a play to push streaming partnerships and that turned me off.

    Mostly what I disliked was how interminable the wait was for them to mature a product and get out of beta. They certainly missed the high tide mark of anticipation and dithered around while interest in a product faded from the minds of tech press and enthusiasts alike.
    Laura Knotek and Nate W like this.
    11-15-2017 08:57 PM
  23. HeyCori's Avatar
    LG V20 is an incredibly nice device and, dare I say, underrated. However, that settings UI is absolutely tragic.
    11-16-2017 04:13 PM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    LG V20 is an incredibly nice device and, dare I say, underrated. However, that settings UI is absolutely tragic.
    Not having a Hotspot toggle on the pull-down shade is unforgivable for me. But the wife loves it so no biggie.
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    11-16-2017 04:20 PM
  25. HeyCori's Avatar
    Not having a Hotspot toggle on the pull-down shade is unforgivable for me. But the wife loves it so no biggie.
    The panel should be adjustable. There's an edit button on there. I set mine to wifi, vibrate, data, bluetooth, hi-fi but it looks like I could drag the hotspot button up there if I wanted to.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    11-16-2017 04:34 PM
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