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  1. libra89's Avatar
    Well, I think I'm going to sell the Surface Pro. Don't need both and I have a Windows laptop.
    Ohh okay, sounds like a plan. Since you have a Windows laptop, you should be just fine. I'll be looking forward to hearing about your experience with the iPad Pro.
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    07-04-2017 05:51 PM
  2. TgeekB's Avatar
    Ohh okay, sounds like a plan. Since you have a Windows laptop, you should be just fine. I'll be looking forward to hearing about your experience with the iPad Pro.
    I know one thing, the typing experience is much better. Always had issues with the VKB on the SP4.
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    07-04-2017 06:52 PM
  3. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    My uncle who used a Lumia 640 XL for 2 years has now moved on to a brand new IPhone 7 Big.
    The reason he moved on? He can't easily upload photos and videos through the Facebook app.

    My cousin on the other whom I gave my trusty old Lumia 822 only kept it for 6 months and is now using an IPhone 6

    Oh well, knew the time would come.

    My girlfriend will follow shortly possibly in the next few months with a new Android.

    These people had no complaints in general about Windows 10 Mobile as a phone OS.
    It's just the Facebook app didn't cut it and colored their opinion of the whole OS.
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    07-22-2017 01:17 AM
  4. N1cks's Avatar
    UPDATE

    It's done.

    The picture below is a is a sad indictment on Microsoft. Is this what Satya Nadella wants?

    In any case, the results have been really positive so far.
    Any fondness for Windows mobile's unique UI are quickly being forgotten after experiencing Apple's amazing app performance. Banking and proper FB apps are really appreciated.

    Some comments after setting up x3 iPhone 6s & x1 iPad Air II:

    • iTunes still sucks. Fortunately you don't need to use it for anything much, but I was asked to add a custom ring tone. My god, it was a painful process.
    • I wanted to change the notification alert for Skype. Apple says NO! (same for Messenger).
    • You can't set up an iPhone without a SIM card - which is kinda annoying.
    • Each device is connected to Outlook.com accounts, but through Apple apps rather than Microsoft's Outlook app just because I thought it would be easier. Contacts & emails sync two-way. Excellent.
    • Microsoft really needs to tidy up their contacts system. It was frustrating linking Skype & Outlook.com contacts. I still don't know how it all works. The fact that Skype is a different division to the rest of Microsoft really shows.
    • Microsoft apps on iOS work really well. OneDrive is great. If your email is coming from Outlook.com, I reckon it makes good sense to use OneDrive over iCloud.
    • Siri is great - fast, accurate & responsive.



    I'm pleased I went with iOS over Android for my family - no launches, app drawers, or widgets. It's more inline with Windows mobile in terms of OS simplicity. However, I still reckon the Windows mobile UI is easier to use. The back button and the search magnifying glass on Windows are initiative & useful. The location of the back button in iOS varies.

    I downloaded the Google search app on each device. For one, the Bing app isn't even available in New Zealand!

    I like to think I've set-up each device with the best on offer from Microsoft, Apple & Google.

    My brother & dad still have Windows devices - but they only phone & text (my brother is still on WP7!). But I'll swap them over next.

    I'm still rocking my 950 XL. Whether I change to Samsung or Apple will be decided in Sept/Oct.




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    07-28-2017 08:32 AM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Microsoft really needs to tidy up their contacts system. It was frustrating linking Skype & Outlook.com contacts. I still don't know how it all works. The fact that Skype is a different division to the rest of Microsoft really shows.
    I'm glad the transition has been smooth for you but you're mistaken about the contact integration. Skype contacts sync perfectly with Outlook - on Windows phones. The fact iOS is so ridiculously locked down is not Microsoft's fault. You can set custom ringtones and notifications on any Microsoft app with Windows or Android, but Apple doesn't play nice.
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    07-28-2017 01:36 PM
  6. N1cks's Avatar
    Skype contacts sync perfectly with Outlook - on Windows phones. The fact iOS is so ridiculously locked down is not Microsoft's fault. You can set custom ringtones and notifications on any Microsoft app with Windows or Android, but Apple doesn't play nice.
    Yeah, no issue with the sync between the Outlook.com & Sync.

    Here are the issues:

    • You can't edit a skype contacts in Outlook.com
    • You can't delete a skype contact in Outlook.com.
    • You have to link Skype & outlook.com contacts otherwise you've duplicates
    • Sometimes Outlook.com decides to link contacts you don't want linked (and vice-a-versa)
    • Skype asks to import contacts from Outlook.com - which ends up pulling across a bunch of phone numbers.


    Microsoft need a unified contacts platform.


    Re: the walled garden nature of iOS, yeah, it would be nice to set a custom notification alert, but it's not a big deal.

    Re: iOS v Android. Given the open nature of Android & the many price points it's available at, I suspect Android dominants is only going to grow & improve.
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    07-28-2017 09:33 PM
  7. PerfectReign's Avatar
    Re: the walled garden nature of iOS, yeah, it would be nice to set a custom notification alert, but it's not a big deal. .
    I think that's available but not implemented for Skype. (Notice how my ringtone is from my 950xl and my message alert is from my Note 2?)



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    07-28-2017 10:23 PM
  8. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I think that's available but not implemented for Skype. (Notice how my ringtone is from my 950xl and my message alert is from my Note 2?)

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...91b3daf7d8.jpg

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2cd181a716.jpg
    The Microsoft apps require permission to access storage in order to use custom notifications. Perhaps with the rumored file manager in iOS 11 this will be possible. As it stands today, you can only use the MS-supplied ringtones.
    Guytronic likes this.
    07-29-2017 02:36 PM
  9. TgeekB's Avatar
    My ringtone is "ring", but I understand others want more.
    Not high on my priority list.
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    07-29-2017 03:17 PM
  10. fatclue_98's Avatar
    My ringtone is "ring", but I understand others want more.
    Not high on my priority list.
    Lord help the church! You don't want to know when your mother-in-law is calling without looking at your phone?

    Sent from my Surface 3 on mTalk
    07-29-2017 06:30 PM
  11. TgeekB's Avatar
    Lord help the church! You don't want to know when your mother-in-law is calling without looking at your phone?

    Sent from my Surface 3 on mTalk
    LOL.
    I'm actually not a big phone user, more of a data hog. When a call comes in from someone I know, their name shows up. Otherwise I don't answer. I could have a 10 minute plan and be good!
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    07-29-2017 06:33 PM
  12. N1cks's Avatar
    UPDATE

    My brother & dad still have Windows devices - but they only phone & text (my brother is still on WP7!). But I'll swap them over next.

    I'm still rocking my 950 XL. Whether I change to Samsung or Apple will be decided in Sept/Oct.

    The Windows Phone purge continues.

    Huawei's for my dad, brother & Sister in law.

    The salesperson talked me into buying the Huawei's - said they offer the most bang for the buck. And for low to mid-range phones, they're good quality. Plus, they don't have too much bloat.

    I've put the Microsoft Launcher on two of them - not because of any loyalty to MS - it's actually a good launcher. I've transfered contacts from Outlook.com to Gmail because 1. Android still doesn't play nice with Outlook.com contacts 2. Gmail has a superior contacts system.


    The Huawei phones. The middle phone is on 'simple mode' (looks Windows-ish!).




    I still have my 950XL - still having trouble deciding on whether to go with an iPhone X or a high-end Android. I like them both.
    12-22-2017 08:57 PM
  13. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    The Windows Phone purge continues.

    Huawei's for my dad, brother & Sister in law.

    The salesperson talked me into buying the Huawei's - said they offer the most bang for the buck. And for low to mid-range phones, they're good quality. Plus, they don't have too much bloat.

    I've put the Microsoft Launcher on two of them - not because of any loyalty to MS - it's actually a good launcher. I've transfered contacts from Outlook.com to Gmail because 1. Android still doesn't play nice with Outlook.com contacts 2. Gmail has a superior contacts system.


    The Huawei phones. The middle phone is on 'simple mode' (looks Windows-ish!).

    https://nickspxts.files.wordpress.co...rich-1_800.jpg


    I still have my 950XL - still having trouble deciding on whether to go with an iPhone X or a high-end Android. I like them both.
    Stick with what you like, Windows mobile, or be part of the problem. You are not irrelevant.
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    12-23-2017 12:47 AM
  14. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Gmail has a superior contacts system
    I've never found it to be superior. It seems like it is on Android because they gimp all the others. I never had problem one with Outlook contacts on WP/W10M or on PC. Ditto webOS contacts on a webOS device.

    It's relative, IMHO.
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    12-23-2017 06:29 AM
  15. N1cks's Avatar
    I've never found it to be superior. It seems like it is on Android because they gimp all the others. I never had problem one with Outlook contacts on WP/W10M or on PC. Ditto webOS contacts on a webOS device.

    It's relative, IMHO.

    Yes, to be fair, I only used Gmail contacts for 30 mins while setting up.

    I've had problems with Outlook contacts - primarily with linking Skype and Outlook.com. You can't delete Skype contacts from Outlook.com & if you remove the contact from Skype, this does not take affect in Outlook.com, at least not immediately.

    I found in my dad's Outlook.com contacts - a contact had duplicated itself over 20 times!
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    12-23-2017 06:41 AM
  16. RumoredNow's Avatar
    @N1cks

    Yeah. Android refuses to play nice with Outlook.

    I recently got my hands on a Blackberry DTEK50. The BB Hub seems to do a good job of syncing Outlook while keeping Gmail out of the way.

    You can get Blackberry Hub on a non-BB, but there is a fee. They do have a free trial if you want to check it out. I think it is 30 days.
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    12-23-2017 10:03 AM
  17. fulnix's Avatar
    I love my 950xl but am slowly disappointed everyday as features work less and less. I gave my Mom the 950 I got with my 950xl and she loves the camera. I bought my Dad a 640 which was great because my Mom could help him with it and worked liked his desktop. Now with features dying I'm not sure what to do. My parents don't want to change and I feel responsible. It hit home today when I tried to Skype them to say hi for Christmas, they are in FL. The experience was one of the most frustrating and disappointing we've had with our phones. This is probably a combination of W10M ending support and the poor support from the Skype team. MS I'm so disappointed 😞
    12-23-2017 10:17 AM
  18. tomi1982's Avatar
    Love my Nokia lumia 920.still working on latest build 15254.16
    12-23-2017 06:42 PM
  19. xandros9's Avatar
    I love my 950xl but am slowly disappointed everyday as features work less and less. I gave my Mom the 950 I got with my 950xl and she loves the camera. I bought my Dad a 640 which was great because my Mom could help him with it and worked liked his desktop. Now with features dying I'm not sure what to do. My parents don't want to change and I feel responsible. It hit home today when I tried to Skype them to say hi for Christmas, they are in FL. The experience was one of the most frustrating and disappointing we've had with our phones. This is probably a combination of W10M ending support and the poor support from the Skype team. MS I'm so disappointed
    I think iPhones might be the best long term option now - get something like a 6s or SE and use FaceTime. As seamless as it gets these days.

    And you know Apple isn’t going to cut and run thankfully.
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    12-23-2017 11:42 PM
  20. N1cks's Avatar
    My parents don't want to change and I feel responsible. It hit home today when I tried to Skype them to say hi for Christmas, they are in FL.
    I know exactly what you're taking about.

    For me, choosing a new phone is turning into an existential crisis.

    I still like my Windows Live tiles. My startscreen shows updates from News, Instagram (6Tag), Twitter, weather & Calendar without even opening an app. I can't replicate this in Android or iOS. I tried the Square Home launcher on Android, but didn't like it.

    iOS and Android each have other advantages though.

    If an OEM made an Android with Microsoft services baked in (properly), I'd probably go with that. Otherwise it's an iPhone X - but damn that things expensive.



    12-24-2017 08:43 AM
  21. PerfectReign's Avatar
    If an OEM made an Android with Microsoft services baked in (properly), I'd probably go with that. Otherwise it's an iPhone X - but damn that things expensive.
    FWIW, the Iphone 10 is a great device. To alleviate the upfront costs I bought it on the Apple upgrade program with Apple Care. I've been happy with it and only rarely use my 950xl anymore. The camera is fantastic. While I would like live tiles, they never quite updated the way I wanted. I am using the swift key keyboard and find Outlook works better than on my Windows devices.

    Oh and I am a former Iphone bashing person as the devices prior to Ios 10 were terrible.
    12-25-2017 09:21 PM
  22. TgeekB's Avatar
    I think iPhones might be the best long term option now - get something like a 6s or SE and use FaceTime. As seamless as it gets these days.

    And you know Apple isn’t going to cut and run thankfully.
    I felt the same way. It wasn’t that I thought the OS was necessarily the best, it was I knew if I invested in their ecosystem they wouldn’t leave me in a year. Let’s face it, we invest a lot of time and money into our devices and want them to be around for a while.
    Laura Knotek, mark233 and libra89 like this.
    12-26-2017 07:05 PM
  23. 3DPiper's Avatar
    Arg, I am in the same boat. My whole family has windows phones, and now they are being choked into submission by Microsoft. Yesterday we noticed the recognized-the-music in cortona is not working.

    I have a 1520, wife and two kids have 640s, oldest daughter has a 820. I purchased all phones for everyone.

    Oldest daughter recently said 'since my screen is cracked, can I buy a galaxy phone?' She didn't understand that it is an android phone. Even so, I said 'you can buy whatever you like since YOU are buying it'.. Not sure if she will.

    If we have to jump ship (as was said before), Microsoft gets what it deserves. I can't believe this. I have been with Windows Mobile, adopted Windows Phone from day one (yay! finally something different that rounded icons!), Lumias, and have stuck with 1520 even through very difficult problems (right now GPS doesn't work)..

    As aggravating as it may be, we would move to android. Probably Motos..

    Microsoft pulled the rug out from under us with no path to replace what they are discontinuing. They get what they deserve..
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