08-23-2014 09:11 PM
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  1. segasaturn's Avatar
    I think overall the XBM app for WP has improved somewhat since the initial release with WP 8.1. We all can agree that there are still significant areas for improvement. I was thinking and narrowed it down to 3 major aspects that I think if MS fixed and addressed would put the app on par relatively with iTunes, Android, ect. I've listed these below. Let me know what you think of this list and if you have any other points or sections to add please do. I think if we the community who actually use this app can get a coherent list together of issues we want changed MS will really have to look at being serious and integrating these into their dev cycle and update.

    1.) Add live tile for now playing artist

    2.) Increase speed when opening and navigating to artists/playlist ect (i.e no more black screens when you just select an artist to view)

    3.) Have a way to recognize whether music/content is local (i.e coming from your files on PC) or cloud and if files are local, to use metadata (tracks, album art, ect) that is on those files, not pull something from the cloud

    Just those 3 things would greatly improve the overall experience of using the app.
    Himanshu Chowdhary likes this.
    07-24-2014 09:22 AM
  2. Himanshu Chowdhary's Avatar
    And while opening the music app remove the splash screen. It should be instant And where are my manners , welcome to WPCentral forums :)
    07-24-2014 09:25 AM
  3. HyperKid's Avatar
    And while opening the music app remove the splash screen. It should be instant And where are my manners , welcome to WPCentral forums :)
    Unfortunately,splash screen will continue UNTIL the app is once again baked into the OS
    Himanshu Chowdhary likes this.
    07-24-2014 09:28 AM
  4. bsayegh's Avatar
    I am still on WP7 and W7 so I haven't even seen XBM yet. I have only heard bad things about it. The Music and Video hub on W7 works fine, so maybe they should just roll back to that. There are some things I would like for them to improve there, but otherwise I don't have much of an issue with that.
    07-24-2014 09:29 AM
  5. fiveaces01's Avatar
    I would settle for just your 1st item on the list. And I would also like to extend a welcome.
    Himanshu Chowdhary likes this.
    07-24-2014 09:32 AM
  6. Himanshu Chowdhary's Avatar
    I am still on WP7 and W7 so I haven't even seen XBM yet. I have only heard bad things about it. The Music and Video hub on W7 works fine, so maybe they should just roll back to that. There are some things I would like for them to improve there, but otherwise I don't have much of an issue with that.
    Still enjoying zune ? why not upgrade to Lumia 520. In my opinion windows phone 7 is dead in terms of apps. I haven't used any windows phone 7 device so I can not say how well it was. Which device do you have ?
    07-24-2014 09:33 AM
  7. ramandindewar's Avatar
    only think i want is when i am in albums section though the songs are in one folder (with 10 songs), in albums it shows 10 different folders, such frustrating to use apps like this
    07-24-2014 09:33 AM
  8. Himanshu Chowdhary's Avatar
    Unfortunately,splash screen will continue UNTIL the app is once again baked into the OS
    That sucks. Now I see why calendar,battery saver have splash screen. Thanks for this clarification bud
    07-24-2014 09:33 AM
  9. fiveaces01's Avatar
    WP8 still had a music and video hub. It took quite a while but they got it working pretty well and there was a Live tile showing the artist now playing that you could even edit with an app called MPATool. Then when the 8.1 preview for developers came out it was no longer in a "hub" but was a standalone app that is still a real mess. They wanted to be able to send out updates that weren't tied to OS updates and thus not under carrier release schedules. There is a good thread in the 8.1 preview for dev forum that goes into more depth.
    07-24-2014 09:41 AM
  10. bsayegh's Avatar
    Still enjoying zune ? why not upgrade to Lumia 520. In my opinion windows phone 7 is dead in terms of apps. I haven't used any windows phone 7 device so I can not say how well it was. Which device do you have ?
    Yeah, Zune has done well by me. I have an HTC Titan II. I have had a free upgrade available for about 3 months now and have just been waiting for a new high end WP to come out on AT&T (REALLY hoping my phone doesn't break before then).

    I don't really know how rapidly apps are released for WP8, but on 7 they are still being released. The major apps don't get updates anymore, but developers are still making games and tools for the OS.
    07-24-2014 09:41 AM
  11. Himanshu Chowdhary's Avatar
    Yeah, Zune has done well by me. I have an HTC Titan II. I have had a free upgrade available for about 3 months now and have just been waiting for a new high end WP to come out on AT&T (REALLY hoping my phone doesn't break before then).

    I don't really know how rapidly apps are released for WP8, but on 7 they are still being released. The major apps don't get updates anymore, but developers are still making games and tools for the OS.
    Ah HTC Titan II is a solid device. Lol keep this beauty safely until your device is ready for an upgrade


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    xandros9 likes this.
    07-24-2014 09:50 AM
  12. loofmodnar's Avatar
    Speed and performance is all I care about now. I bought my 520 to replace my ZuneHD for long car trips. It's basically unusable while I'm driving since it takes so long to load everything.

    Feature-wise, I'd like to see:

    1. Larger buttons/touch points for play/pause, skip, etc
    2. The recently added list
    3. Return of the now playing stuff.

    I'm hopeful that the big performance/feature update mentioned on twitter is actually something useful.
    07-24-2014 11:45 AM
  13. bsayegh's Avatar
    I want to be able to select a song using voice commands. I realize it wont be perfectly accurate, but I would rather they did it half-assed than no-assed.
    07-24-2014 02:14 PM
  14. loofmodnar's Avatar
    I want to be able to select a song using voice commands. I realize it wont be perfectly accurate, but I would rather they did it half-assed than no-assed.
    That's already available via Cortana. "Play song XYZ"
    07-24-2014 04:52 PM
  15. Simon Gregory's Avatar
    To get even close to the WP7 experience they'd need to:
    - Reinstate recently played screen.
    - Reinstate the live tile
    - Correctly adhere to multidisc order.
    - Stop the app trying to connect through the internet all the time, if I'm playing local music, I shouldn't need to 'log in'.
    - Fix app from streaming songs even when they are local
    - Fix app from occasionally refusing to play songs with DRM related error messages
    - Fix app to correctly read metadata and images
    - Fix the noise between tracks
    - provide a decent companion app to allow you to organise your collection properly and controls to seemlessly edit metadata
    - add decent syncing experience
    - add wireless sync and or add a music locker to allow you to sync (not just stream) own music collection through the cloud
    - vastly improve the performance
    - bring back music ratings and reinstate it as a syncing filter
    - stop cloud matching overwriting metadata of your own collection
    - stop cloud syncing creating duplicate tracks
    - properly reinstate recommended music suggestions

    Oh, and seeing as its the #1 suggestion on the uservoice page they might want to look at providing gapless playback too!
    Last edited by Simon Gregory; 07-26-2014 at 03:55 AM.
    hotphil, jomarr, JamesPTao and 1 others like this.
    07-26-2014 03:41 AM
  16. Desynthesis's Avatar
    To get even close to the WP7 experience they'd need to:
    - Reinstate recently played screen.
    - Reinstate the live tile
    - Correctly adhere to multidisc order.
    - Stop the app trying to connect through the internet all the time, if I'm playing local music, I shouldn't need to 'log in'.
    - Fix app from streaming songs even when they are local
    - Fix app from occasionally refusing to play songs with DRM related error messages
    - Fix app to correctly read metadata and images
    - Fix the noise between tracks
    - provide a decent companion app to allow you to organise your collection properly and controls to seemlessly edit metadata
    - add decent syncing experience
    - add wireless sync and or add a music locker to allow you to sync (not just stream) own music collection through the cloud
    - vastly improve the performance
    - bring back music ratings and reinstate it as a syncing filter
    - stop cloud matching overwriting metadata of your own collection
    - stop cloud syncing creating duplicate tracks
    - properly reinstate recommended music suggestions

    Oh, and seeing as its the #1 suggestion on the uservoice page they might want to look at providing gapless playback too!
    Actually, that goes well beyond WP7 was capable of (and you know it)--don't get me wrong, I'd love to see those features, but WP7 didn't have anything close to metadata editing on the phone proper, and even would occasionally read metadata wrong (hence the need for the Zune software).

    As I've said, those are great features, but some of them weren't on WP7. I for one would absolutely settle for a WP-only tagging tool like the Zune software, acknowledging that it wouldn't be perfect either (in the end of the day, music metadata's a mess). There's nothing wrong with reaching for the stars, but I'd settle for "get back to where we were" myself.
    Kevin Rush likes this.
    07-28-2014 10:07 AM
  17. Simon Gregory's Avatar
    I meant a companion desktop app (i.e. Zune Desktop), not editing metadata on the phone.

    All these features were in WP7 except gapless playback. Most of these are fixes for ridiculous bugs introduced in 8 and 8.1.

    It just shows how bad it's got, that people can't even remember what was lost in the previous iteration because so much was broken in the most recent one.
    Last edited by Simon Gregory; 07-29-2014 at 04:45 AM.
    Kevin Rush likes this.
    07-28-2014 05:18 PM
  18. Neve12ende12's Avatar
    I'd just be happy if it could get ALL of the metadata right. For instance, I have every single possible detail I can about an album (including the album art), but half of the art is missing in Xbox Music.

    The number one thing that really pisses me off is every time I add Zedd to my phone...he gets turned into Demi Levato ...WTF is up with that?

    It makes me sad because I think Zune/Xbox music is the most beautiful/awesome music experience...when it works
    07-29-2014 12:42 AM
  19. supadryz's Avatar
    As much I want to love Xbox Music on my Lumia 930 it is fallen short in many areas, if I am missing something let me know.

    1. Cover Art (If I upload music from hardrive most the time if it does not match the the Xbox Music Store Catalog it will not bring it through, which sucks, should have option to upload your own or manually pin from there catalog.

    2. What happened to the little heart symbol for favorites? Should be like itunes so you can rate up to 5 stars.

    most other things have been mentioned like the slowness etc. but this App is miles behind itunes or then the Xbox Live on Windows Surface. I have the trial for the unlimited music but I don't fee I will continue with it as the search engine sucks as well.
    MiyuruSankalpa likes this.
    07-29-2014 09:41 AM
  20. hotphil's Avatar
    Well, the poor stats of Xbox Music just gave money to Apple. A colleague asked me if I prefer Windows Phone or iOS. I said iOS, he asked why and I had to be honest - it plays music and Windows Phone just can't.
    He went back to his desk and ordered an iPhone.
    I never thought I'd recommend Apple to anyone.
    07-30-2014 02:45 AM
  21. loofmodnar's Avatar
    2. What happened to the little heart symbol for favorites? Should be like itunes so you can rate up to 5 stars.
    I forgot about that. That was one of my favorite Zune functions. I used it to mark songs for my auto-complied "Best of Me" playlist and songs I either didn't like or needed to fix/redownload. I really liked the Like/Dislike/None method of rating songs. It fits pretty well with how I do things.

    Sadly, I suspect without some sort of music management app for WP like Zune/iTunes, we won't be seeing that functionality come back. The ratings don't really mean anything if they're not synced back to the original file and have something with the ability to organize them.
    07-30-2014 10:02 AM
  22. Andrea988's Avatar
    I would settle for just your 1st item on the list. And I would also like to extend a welcome.
    Ditto, though I have only just started using a Windows phone. My music seems to all be stored in the cloud, and won't play. I'll look into that later but I would just like to transfer my tracks from PC to Phone so I don't need to worry about having an internet connection - after all it's when I'm out and about I'm likely to be playing my music and won't always be near a Wi-Fi connection.
    07-31-2014 11:47 AM
  23. Simon Gregory's Avatar
    Ditto, though I have only just started using a Windows phone. My music seems to all be stored in the cloud, and won't play. I'll look into that later but I would just like to transfer my tracks from PC to Phone so I don't need to worry about having an internet connection - after all it's when I'm out and about I'm likely to be playing my music and won't always be near a Wi-Fi connection.
    Have fun with that, see my uservoice suggestion for why:

    http://xboxmusic.uservoice.com/forum...ds-an-overhaul

    'Best' solutions now involve manual filecopy or iTunes!?! There is the WP 'sync tool', but the least said about that, the better.
    Andrea988 likes this.
    07-31-2014 01:21 PM
  24. Pranjal Rai's Avatar
    After the update, is anyone else facing the issue that, wherever you tap on any album in 'Albums' it opens up but when you switch back to previous screen, there is no album art visible. Also, another problem is that if there is a 'The' or 'A' at the beginning of an album name it is shifted at the end of the album name. And when you switch back then the name appears normally. I hate this bug.

    Apart from this there are a few performance issues while loading artists, songs, etc. But apart from that, the app works perfectly fine, displaying all album art, artist images properly.
    07-31-2014 01:35 PM
  25. Desynthesis's Avatar
    After the update, is anyone else facing the issue that, wherever you tap on any album in 'Albums' it opens up but when you switch back to previous screen, there is no album art visible. Also, another problem is that if there is a 'The' or 'A' at the beginning of an album name it is shifted at the end of the album name. And when you switch back then the name appears normally. I hate this bug.

    Apart from this there are a few performance issues while loading artists, songs, etc. But apart from that, the app works perfectly fine, displaying all album art, artist images properly.
    On the subject of article movement--so, for example, The Beatles becomes Beatles, The, I suspect that's an (unfinished) feature intended for user preference. Before 8.1, the Music+Video app automatically sorted by the band name after the article, but didn't move the article. I prefer that (maybe I'm just used to it from the Zune), but maybe some people don't, since if you have thousands of different artists, it could be slightly faster if the 'The' was at the back?

    The best solution, I guess, is to add a slider in the settings to configure that (which might cause its own problems). If not that, perhaps just default to the old format and hope everyone, or most people, prefer it that way.
    08-09-2014 12:29 PM
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