12-14-2014 12:16 AM
30 12
tools
  1. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Seriously. MS decoupled the WP app and left us with a crappy app for the whole year before revealing that they would wait to W10 to fix it. What was the point?!!! Why not just shrink the Music + Videos text and be done with it. Maybe improve playlist creation and ...I dunno. What was the old hub missing again?
    This is just ridiculously stupid and disappointing.
    12-02-2014 08:06 AM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Nice rant. The Hubs were a great concept the problem with them is that MS has no control over update cycles so this is the bes they could do to bring updates quicker to solve issues. Simply go with the concept that Hubs are dead and move on. It was a nice idea when they had it but without total control of updates it's simply not a viable way of doing things.
    12-02-2014 08:11 AM
  3. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I was expecting the dummy spit of you dropping WP and going somewhere else... oh well, can't have everything in rants these days.
    12-02-2014 08:12 AM
  4. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Seriously. MS decoupled the WP app and left us with a crappy app for the whole year before revealing that they would wait to W10 to fix it. What was the point?!!! Why not just shrink the Music + Videos text and be done with it. Maybe improve playlist creation and ...I dunno. What was the old hub missing again?
    This is just ridiculously stupid and disappointing.
    List the major things it's missing right now.
    12-02-2014 08:20 AM
  5. Mellifluous's Avatar
    The Xbox music app is fine now. Most issues people will have with it are issues a lot of media players will have in interpreting their tags etc.

    The only feature missing now is gapless playback really. It could be faster and a bit prettier, but otherwise it does the job nicely as a mobile music player.
    Warren_2185 and RTGent like this.
    12-02-2014 08:40 AM
  6. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Nice rant. The Hubs were a great concept the problem with them is that MS has no control over update cycles so this is the bes they could do to bring updates quicker to solve issues. Simply go with the concept that Hubs are dead and move on. It was a nice idea when they had it but without total control of updates it's simply not a viable way of doing things.
    You commenting on the wrong post?
    12-02-2014 08:45 AM
  7. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    List the major things it's missing right now.
    I have listed it before, and it remains the same.
    Album art and Artist art remains a lottery.
    Even if you have local art embedded, it will ignore it to search for XBM music. ofc, if it fails, you get zip.
    In a non XBM region. You get a neutered app that's neutered for no reason.
    Its slow and laggy still.
    Recent plays is uunreliable and flat out useless.
    It lacks a recently added feature.
    Background music download remains stripped.
    Worst of all...it is a completely iunnecessary change. There was no need for it. We gained nothing in return for the public beta test.


    Edit: Forgot smartDJ...so did Microsoft
    theefman likes this.
    12-02-2014 08:48 AM
  8. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    The Xbox music app is fine now. Most issues people will have with it are issues a lot of media players will have in interpreting their tags etc.

    The only feature missing now is gapless playback really. It could be faster and a bit prettier, but otherwise it does the job nicely as a mobile music player.
    Sure, when I want to play nmusic, I tap the tile then go make some tea to give the app time to load. Fun :P
    Kanga81 likes this.
    12-02-2014 08:50 AM
  9. paulsalter's Avatar
    Was a good update for me, fixed the only major issue with the last version, syncing was not working between phone and other devices

    I agree on the recently added playlist, this would be nice to have, but apart from that I don't have any issues now with xbox music
    12-02-2014 08:52 AM
  10. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Was a good update for me, fixed the only major issue with the last version, syncing was not working between phone and other devices

    I agree on the recently added playlist, this would be nice to have, but apart from that I don't have any issues now with xbox music
    Read the comments under the XBM article.
    12-02-2014 08:52 AM
  11. paulsalter's Avatar
    I have read them, its the same comments by the same people that get posted everytime

    If people are so unhappy with it then move to something that works

    For me, and I am sure plenty of others, xbox music is fine
    12-02-2014 08:55 AM
  12. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    I have read them, its the same comments by the same people that get posted everytime

    If people are so unhappy with it then move to something that works

    For me, and I am sure plenty of others, xbox music is fine
    Do you take a list of names? Also, Music on WP is completely borked for 8.1. First party, third party. All borked.
    Luckily WP is more than a music player
    12-02-2014 08:58 AM
  13. jomarr's Avatar
    App doesn't refresh. Does it ever? My playlists on Xbox Music are like 3 months old with zero updates at all. My Music Hub Tile is up to date.

    I like everything about Windows Phone. Apps etc. I'm fine with what I get but Xbox Music is a big disaster. Hopefully the preview for Windows 10 for Phones will be sooner so I could decide whether or not to stay in the platform.

    In before 'I can't believe a music player will be the reason of you getting out of the platform'. Well I love music and I need my playlists up to date and working. While Hub Tile is nice and does the job great there is so much more to that than what I experience. Another thing is the disappointing Windows Phone for Desktop syncing app. Syncing process is hours and hours before it successfully completes. Also sometimes Hub Tile would revert back to my older playlists even after syncing the new ones through Windows Phone for Desktop app but this happens once in a blue moon.

    Microsoft really needs to fix the music experience on Windows Phone. It's really underwhelming. You will never see me complain about anything except for Xbox Music. I was actually fine with the Xbox Music on WP8 and didn't miss the iOS player one bit but right now I'm really looking at that new iPhone again just for the music experience.

    If you have work arounds with my issues please post it here. I would truly appreciate the help.

    And I agree with your post, the constant updates did nothing except for the tag fixes which I am truly glad for as I scrobble my music through last fm. I did like the live tile comeback but they need to focus on the stability of the app more than the interface. The interface can be reworked later just make the app more stable. Right now based on MY OWN experience, the app is still unusable and this is coming from someone who constantly updates playlists, adding new music to his phone and using it 6-8 hours a day.

    And PS the 1520's phantom touch ain't helping too!
    theefman, dgr_874 and tuxedo323 like this.
    12-02-2014 09:05 AM
  14. loofmodnar's Avatar
    I don't have many complaints anymore. Syncing and Refreshing playlists is the biggest annoyance and I've found if I leave the app open long enough it gets around to refreshing them. I'm hoping the last update fixes some of that based on the change log but we'll see.
    12-02-2014 09:11 AM
  15. Christopher Senn1's Avatar
    All MS apps run better on Android and iOS. Sad really
    nallWhite likes this.
    12-04-2014 05:26 PM
  16. Jose_Rey's Avatar
    My biggest issue with Xbox Music is Duplicates. I got rid of my Zune HD expecting to have a seamless experience across all my Microsoft devices. But now, I don't know after how many updates later I still can't sync my music without having the same songs repeated on my phone. Since they're dedicating their resources to Windows 10, I doubt they'll ever fix it. I mean, how hard could it possibly be to integrate syncing into Xbox Music when Zune and iTunes does it so well? I bought an iPod Touch because of this. But I'm tired of using 3 programs(Xbox Music(cloud matching), Zune(song credits), iTunes(obvious)) and 2 devices to manage my music.

    Anyways, I haven't given up waiting... but I'm gonna wait til they get my issues with their app fixed before buying another Windows Phone. Who knows, maybe they'll fix it with that OneDrive locker. For now, I'll try another platform. Microsoft doesn't care enough for WP anyways as even their own apps are released first on other platforms, though I could care less if they fixed my music experience at WP.
    12-04-2014 08:51 PM
  17. nallWhite's Avatar
    I have listed it before, and it remains the same.
    Album art and Artist art remains a lottery.
    Even if you have local art embedded, it will ignore it to search for XBM music. ofc, if it fails, you get zip.
    In a non XBM region. You get a neutered app that's neutered for no reason.
    Its slow and laggy still.
    Recent plays is uunreliable and flat out useless.
    It lacks a recently added feature.
    Background music download remains stripped.
    Worst of all...it is a completely iunnecessary change. There was no need for it. We gained nothing in return for the public beta test.


    Edit: Forgot smartDJ...so did Microsoft
    I think the point of XBM/V is to create an iTunes like experience aka buy music through here. I've used WMP and the WP desktop 'crap' to sync music. Art is hit and miss. Don't like crapple. But, they do focus on the user experience. Also, Belifore-whatever said something along the lines of users are side loading music now, I'm guessing Android phones. So, they aren't focused on making a better sync app. Zune had no prob syncing the vary same music. And the video tagging was top notch. Dunno why it can't be rebranded or something. Really wish I cam get in on a focus group sometimes.
    12-04-2014 09:23 PM
  18. jomarr's Avatar
    I think the point of XBM/V is to create an iTunes like experience aka buy music through here. I've used WMP and the WP desktop 'crap' to sync music. Art is hit and miss. Don't like crapple. But, they do focus on the user experience. Also, Belifore-whatever said something along the lines of users are side loading music now, I'm guessing Android phones. So, they aren't focused on making a better sync app. Zune had no prob syncing the vary same music. And the video tagging was top notch. Dunno why it can't be rebranded or something. Really wish I cam get in on a focus group sometimes.
    Exactly.

    I wish Microsoft would try and make a better music app.

    I'm devastated. My contract is up and I'm considering the Note 4 but I will keep the 1520. It wouldn't be my primary device anymore though.

    While I'm not okay with the lack of support of apps, I can live with the basics but mess with the music player, they'll lose a customer.

    I'm keeping the 1520 just to test Windows 10. If Xbox Music doesn't improve by then I'm afraid I might sell the 1520.
    nallWhite likes this.
    12-05-2014 05:09 AM
  19. RTGent's Avatar
    Zune on my desktop and 3 Zune players; XBM on my 1020, RT, and SP2; and various "apps" on my Xbox 360E for my (huge XBM Pass subscription and owned) music Collection, and streamed music videos: Love them all!!

    I'm fortunate.
    It's about the Music.
    Thank you, Microsoft.
    12-05-2014 12:19 PM
  20. Jose_Rey's Avatar
    Zune on my desktop and 3 Zune players; XBM on my 1020, RT, and SP2; and various "apps" on my Xbox 360E for my (huge XBM Pass subscription and owned) music Collection, and streamed music videos: Love them all!!

    I'm fortunate.
    It's about the Music.
    Thank you, Microsoft.
    Seems like you have a very fragmented setup there. I like what XBM is trying to do. I like adding a song to my collection on my phone, having it appear on all my other devices. This is GREAT! But it doesn't work with Zune. If it did, I'd be a happy camper. The service is also Fantastic and no matter what platform I'm in, I'll keep it. I'm grandfathered with +10, so MS ain't taking that from me. When they do, I'll probably be all in with another platform. For now I'm holding out hope.
    12-05-2014 01:44 PM
  21. RTGent's Avatar
    Seems like you have a very fragmented setup there. .
    One man's "fragmentation", is another's "got all my computing devices music-loaded and ready". I've learned how each app works best on each device. BTW, I should have said Zune on the SP2 as well.

    I'm also fortunate to be on the 10-credits plan: At a buck a track, I figure I'm paying a balance of $2.50 a month on my annual plan for all the music playback I want on 6 devices!! Is there a better entertainment value anywhere? In this context, music software limitations are so petty to me.

    Related acknowledgement: I'm sure I'd be much less tolerant of the XBM gapless recording problem, if it wasn't that my Zune desktop and players, which are my primary listening devices, do play back such live recordings flawlessly.
    12-05-2014 04:48 PM
  22. Hisham Ahmed's Avatar
    Well.....you could use the Xbox Music Hub through a shortcut provided by reker. I'm sick of the new app too, and here in India, we have no access to Xbox Music (and after losing MixRadio subscriptions, this sounds even more painful, considering Pandora and Spotify and Beats Music doesn't work in India either. Yeesh MS, ignoring your second-biggest costumer-base is a very bad idea)
    12-06-2014 01:03 PM
  23. Simon Gregory's Avatar
    Nice rant. The Hubs were a great concept the problem with them is that MS has no control over update cycles so this is the bes they could do to bring updates quicker to solve issues. Simply go with the concept that Hubs are dead and move on. It was a nice idea when they had it but without total control of updates it's simply not a viable way of doing things.
    How is the current app an improvement over the WP8 music hub (let alone the WP7 Zune Hub)? We went through all the pain to get to a state that's worse than before (and in that time we could have had TWO updates to the built in player).. They are now choosing to turn down development focus on this app, so its not going to get much better anyway. So either the initial reasons given for doing this were an untruth, or the strategy has failed.
    12-06-2014 04:16 PM
  24. Stephen Pedersen's Avatar
    XBox Music app is simply okay. There's nothing special about it. I'm eagerly anticipating what the Windows 10 team for phone's are coming up. What the develop will determine Whether or not I'll own an apple or not sometime next year. First my smart phone is a cell phone, next it is a music player then it's a computer in that order. I want a good music app period. I'm paying for it for Christ sakes!
    12-06-2014 04:49 PM
  25. Noahma's Avatar
    I don't have many complaints anymore. Syncing and Refreshing playlists is the biggest annoyance and I've found if I leave the app open long enough it gets around to refreshing them. I'm hoping the last update fixes some of that based on the change log but we'll see.
    I am in agreement with you, my problems sans gapless are gone. I updated to an 830 from my 920 and the app performance is much better than it was on the 920. I put a large enough SD card in the 830 that I have all of my music on my phone, I have all of my music on my Tablet, and all on two desktop computers. It is nice to be able to add a song from my phone to a playlist and within a few min. its on EVERY device I have the music on. I did have problems when I had partial list of my music on my phone though, sometimes it would not get the changes to playlists. Everything runs pretty smooth now.

    I do think this app was not a waste. I am pretty sure Microsoft will use this app as a base for whatever they are cooking up. The xbox music app has been a universal app since pre 8.1. My guess is that it was a working model for the universal app model.
    12-08-2014 02:07 AM
30 12

Similar Threads

  1. Trapster calls it a day, shutting down by the end of the year
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-02-2014, 07:42 AM
  2. Track Santa's whereabouts this holiday season with Microsoft and NORAD
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-02-2014, 07:11 AM
  3. The update was downloaded, but couldn't be opened (8018830f), what do I do next?
    By Windows Central Question in forum Ask a Question
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-02-2014, 03:35 AM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD