12-09-2015 11:37 PM
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  1. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    I keep giving it second chances because I really don't want to depend on iTunes but a crap music store almost pushes you to torrent music and that's sad. I purchased an album on Xbox music and my gf purchased the same album. In the Xbox store there was a track completely unnamed. We literally thought the track was called "track 13" until she bought it on iTunes. It would be bad if it was like that only on my phone but it's still like that now in the store.
    03-25-2015 03:24 PM
  2. Jazmac's Avatar
    I wanted to compose a list of reasons Xbox music sucks for a lot of people. For me the Xbox music app sucks first for the name. I didn't use it for a while just because I thought I had to have an Xbox to use it. It has nothing to do with Xbox specifically so it's weird they call it Xbox music. Xbox music app on WP doesn't have any indication at all on what's explicit and what's not. The search function in the app sucks. The indication on whether you're searching the store or collection needs to be better. I've refused to sign up for Xbox music pass because it handles regular purchased music so badly. It never finds new audio files manually added to my 1520 but Xbox video seems to want to display every video file on my phone no matter where I hide it. It marks my owned audio as streaming for no reason so I lose access to them. It shuffles the same instead of randomly each time. It will still play music if you close out the app and will not stop until you press stop. It doesn't playback while using the phone function like iPhones. It doesn't even properly sort purchases find through the Xbox music app. I have some artist in the Xbox music folder and others just downloaded in other places. It doesn't have any feedback options in the settings to even send issues for correcting. If you have windows 7 you have no option at all for using it. It's really not advertised or functions as a proper central hub for your device the way iTunes does. That's a few things from me. Who has more? What don't you like about it?
    So use Itunes.
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    03-25-2015 03:39 PM
  3. Yazen's Avatar
    At least WP users have a seekbar (and OneDrive integration)! Android users can't rewind or fast forward! In 2015!

    And shouldn't we be able to edit metadata with Xbox Music?
    Android 1.6 had seeking

    Pretty much every entry level device that can play music supports gapless playback. Xbox Music? Nope :(
    Windows XP had this feature when it shipped lol. XP can edit metadata too..
    Doing anything useful in Xbox Music is a pain.
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    03-25-2015 03:48 PM
  4. Crakeur's Avatar
    Besides agreeing about the name (it really does imply you need an Xbox), here are a several:

    • For example, the album "Fairweather Johnson" by Hootie & the Blowfish has dupe tracks. .



    You can't blame Xbox for your having Hootie & the Blowfish. That's issue is on you my friend. (I kid)


    I can live with the duplicate tracks, although I do think that's not as bad as it was. My one major problem is that the damned thing stops playing songs on its own which means I have to take the phone out and restart the shuffle. Sometimes it happens 10 times in a half hour, sometimes it doesn't happen at all. I know it's tied to licensing which is very strange since all the songs that I've downloaded are either purchased from Xbox (10 free a month deal), downloaded with licenses attached or ripped from cds. I can never figure out which songs trigger this and the system doesn't show me which songs won't play so I can delete or re-download them.

    Is it a deal breaker? No but it's frustrating as all hell.

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    03-25-2015 04:38 PM
  5. colinkiama's Avatar
    Loco music player is the answer to your prayers.
    Sent from my awesome Lumia 735
    03-25-2015 04:58 PM
  6. jdballard's Avatar
    You can't blame Xbox for your having Hootie & the Blowfish. That's issue is on you my friend. (I kid)
    Ha ha! I even have Darius Rucker's country stuff and am looking forward to his new release next week. :)

    I can live with the duplicate tracks, although I do think that's not as bad as it was.
    It's better than it was. One thing I learned by testing yesterday: if you have a dupe, one showing a file path to your OneDrive file and one that says "stream from OneDrive" and you select "Delete" on the one showing streaming from OneDrive, the warning about deleting the file from OneDrive is legit. It will delete it. It's weird it doesn't recognize it as a dupe until you delete it - then it deletes both.

    My one major problem is that the damned thing stops playing songs on its own which means I have to take the phone out and restart the shuffle.
    Fortunately, never had this happen at all.

    Is it a deal breaker? No but it's frustrating as all hell.
    I'm a software developer. These things I can deal with. Your average user? No way.
    03-25-2015 05:14 PM
  7. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    I wanted to compose a list of reasons Xbox music sucks for a lot of people. For me the Xbox music app sucks first for the name. I didn't use it for a while just because I thought I had to have an Xbox to use it. It has nothing to do with Xbox specifically so it's weird they call it Xbox music. Xbox music app on WP doesn't have any indication at all on what's explicit and what's not. The search function in the app sucks. The indication on whether you're searching the store or collection needs to be better. I've refused to sign up for Xbox music pass because it handles regular purchased music so badly. It never finds new audio files manually added to my 1520 but Xbox video seems to want to display every video file on my phone no matter where I hide it. It marks my owned audio as streaming for no reason so I lose access to them. It shuffles the same instead of randomly each time. It will still play music if you close out the app and will not stop until you press stop. It doesn't playback while using the phone function like iPhones. It doesn't even properly sort purchases find through the Xbox music app. I have some artist in the Xbox music folder and others just downloaded in other places. It doesn't have any feedback options in the settings to even send issues for correcting. If you have windows 7 you have no option at all for using it. It's really not advertised or functions as a proper central hub for your device the way iTunes does. That's a few things from me. Who has more? What don't you like about it?
    I think people need to educate themselves first. MSFT made mention of the transition from Zune to Xbox for Music and Video shortly after Windows 8 was released. The concept was to integrate a music playing experience across multiple platforms which I'd say they accomplished. Now I think we all remember the growing pains in the beginning but MSFT has done a good job in steadily pushing out updates and the program is running as smooth as ever.
    You can download playlists. I've downloaded two of them. If you look at the album art, in a lot of cases they'll have an explicit and then an album art picture without the explicit tag. I like the other features like related artists and history. This isn't a standalone media player. It was never meant to be. For what Xbox music is designed for it does a great job. If you're heavily immersed in the music pass which I have been for almost six years now then it works for you, however I also use MixRadio, and Mixtapes. Xbox music doesn't do some of what the other players do, but it doesn't suck.
    03-25-2015 05:23 PM
  8. D M C's Avatar
    I never understood why MS has developed Xbox music app.

    No music player is better than Xbox music
    03-25-2015 05:26 PM
  9. Crakeur's Avatar
    I'm a software developer. These things I can deal with. Your average user? No way.
    I'm an average user and the play stoppage hasn't forced me to consider alternatives yet, but, this past winter, in sub-zero weather, having to bust out the phone in frigid winds, was a real test of my patience.

    I uploaded stuff to OneDrive that was on my PC but I did too many files at once, then I was told I couldn't upload more than one song at a time, so I gave up. I have several thousand songs on the pc, from years of collecting them, and to have to upload them, one at a time, is just ridiculous. More so since, up until recently, I put songs directly onto my device to avoid stoppage thanks to lost connections. Here in NYC, if I take the subway, or go thru certain areas, I lose cell service, and the streaming goes with it.

    Enjoy the big Hootie release party.
    03-25-2015 05:29 PM
  10. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    I'm an average user and the play stoppage hasn't forced me to consider alternatives yet, but, this past winter, in sub-zero weather, having to bust out the phone in frigid winds, was a real test of my patience.

    I uploaded stuff to OneDrive that was on my PC but I did too many files at once, then I was told I couldn't upload more than one song at a time, so I gave up. I have several thousand songs on the pc, from years of collecting them, and to have to upload them, one at a time, is just ridiculous. More so since, up until recently, I put songs directly onto my device to avoid stoppage thanks to lost connections. Here in NYC, if I take the subway, or go thru certain areas, I lose cell service, and the streaming goes with it.

    Enjoy the big Hootie release party.

    I have so many songs that I own that don't work in my Xbox music app it's ridiculous. Maybe because I didn't load them one at a time. Almost half my library is unavailable to me. I always end up using the file app to play my music.
    03-25-2015 06:46 PM
  11. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    So use Itunes.
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    I already mentioned I have issues even with music I own (that I purchased from iTunes).
    03-25-2015 06:47 PM
  12. Machiventa777's Avatar
    Another thing that sucks about it is on Win7 using music.xbox.com you can't delete multiple albums from your collection!

    And another thing that pisses me off (again on W7 web client) is when browsing either your collection, playlists, or the music pass catalog, it takes several seconds to load, which essentially takes forever to view results, especially long lists. And if you accidentally click an item (or on purpose), when you go back it starts loading results from the beginning. Ugh!
    03-25-2015 10:17 PM
  13. Jazmac's Avatar
    Another thing that sucks about it is on Win7 using music.xbox.com you can't delete multiple albums from your collection!

    And another thing that pisses me off (again on W7 web client) is when browsing either your collection, playlists, or the music pass catalog, it takes several seconds to load, which essentially takes forever to view results, especially long lists. And if you accidentally click an item (or on purpose), when you go back it starts loading results from the beginning. Ugh!
    Never noticed that before but what I noticed from a lot of these I hate XBOX music posts is that not everyone uses the utility in the same way. Moreover, depending on the types of music you listen to may affect your appreciation of XBOX music. Maybe my opinion will change in time since I've only own Xbox music for a couple weeks and I'm still learning my way around but I find the more I use it, the more I like it. And now that it reads my stored music on OneDrive, I can't be happier. As a Jazz lover, I am actually surprised at just how good XBOX music is at finding the types of Jazz I enjoy. So far, I'm happy.
    03-25-2015 11:36 PM
  14. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    I also have a problem with Xbox music, everytime i copy a podcast onto my phone, it doesnt show up on the list.
    I have to enter my files app and then look for the podcast to open it, which is terrible because its basically a greyed out interface with no album art or any functions at all, and if you hit back it stops playing. Annoying @#?*
    I tried to restart my phone and even force it to scan sd card and it still doesn't do a single thing.
    03-26-2015 02:51 AM
  15. Crakeur's Avatar
    with the addition of the onedrive storage, I'm finding it takes a very long time for the first song to play when you hit the shuffle play button. the first song takes minutes to load, if it loads at all.


    03-26-2015 10:19 AM
  16. Jazmac's Avatar
    with the addition of the onedrive storage, I'm finding it takes a very long time for the first song to play when you hit the shuffle play button. the first song takes minutes to load, if it loads at all.

    What kind of phone and is that on data, wifi or both?
    03-26-2015 10:34 AM
  17. Crakeur's Avatar
    What kind of phone and is that on data, wifi or both?

    lumia 822. wifi is ok, not great. data, however, is brutal.
    03-26-2015 10:48 AM
  18. Jose_Rey's Avatar
    My issue with Xbox music isn't really a service issue. I love the service. Grandfathered with +10. My issue is more so the apps, both on the PC and phone.

    The WP app worked fine streaming my music but when I synced my local library via WP app for desktop, I'd get duplicates. I waited since 2012 til January 2015 for Microsoft to fix this, then I gave up and moved to android.

    On the PC side the app just freezes(2 different PCs), and at the moment I can't download music pass content. Not that I ever do anyways. It's easier for me to keep track of what I own if I only download what I own, at least using the XBM app. But I'll give it props for being smart enough with my OneDrive music folder. Definitely better than managing it with zune by miles.
    03-26-2015 12:37 PM
  19. Jazmac's Avatar
    lumia 822. wifi is ok, not great. data, however, is brutal.
    Interesting. Reason I'm asking is the speed at which you say the music starts. Wifi is just ok and data is worse. I don't know if you can do LTE or not but sticking with wifi, my speed to start playing is pretty much instantaneous. Weird kind of experience you're having to say the least.
    03-26-2015 12:54 PM
  20. Crakeur's Avatar
    Interesting. Reason I'm asking is the speed at which you say the music starts. Wifi is just ok and data is worse. I don't know if you can do LTE or not but sticking with wifi, my speed to start playing is pretty much instantaneous. Weird kind of experience you're having to say the least.

    The issue is worse when using the LTE. That's the big shocker.
    03-26-2015 01:24 PM
  21. Jazmac's Avatar
    The issue is worse when using the LTE. That's the big shocker.
    I didn't ask about LTE because I know some places are not enabled. That is a surprise. When I first signed up, it took a little time for Xbox to get my music in order but after the dust settled, it runs well. It shouldn't be stalling on you like you say. What did your mobile speed test tell you? (assuming you have one of those apps installed)
    03-26-2015 02:53 PM
  22. Crakeur's Avatar
    I didn't ask about LTE because I know some places are not enabled. That is a surprise. When I first signed up, it took a little time for Xbox to get my music in order but after the dust settled, it runs well. It shouldn't be stalling on you like you say. What did your mobile speed test tell you? (assuming you have one of those apps installed)
    I don't have a mobile speed app installed because I've never had any issues with the speed. everything has always been fast enough. The sad thing is, I'd just switch to playing only the songs on my phone, and stop streaming but half my downloaded songs, all owned by me, shut the player down which is my original issue posted in this thread.

    03-26-2015 03:11 PM
  23. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    Another thing that sucks about it is on Win7 using music.xbox.com you can't delete multiple albums from your collection!



    And another thing that pisses me off (again on W7 web client) is when browsing either your collection, playlists, or the music pass catalog, it takes several seconds to load, which essentially takes forever to view results, especially long lists. And if you accidentally click an item (or on purpose), when you go back it starts loading results from the beginning. Ugh!

    Didn't even know there was a web app lol.
    03-28-2015 01:39 PM
  24. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    I think people need to educate themselves first. MSFT made mention of the transition from Zune to Xbox for Music and Video shortly after Windows 8 was released. The concept was to integrate a music playing experience across multiple platforms which I'd say they accomplished. Now I think we all remember the growing pains in the beginning but MSFT has done a good job in steadily pushing out updates and the program is running as smooth as ever.

    You can download playlists. I've downloaded two of them. If you look at the album art, in a lot of cases they'll have an explicit and then an album art picture without the explicit tag. I like the other features like related artists and history. This isn't a standalone media player. It was never meant to be. For what Xbox music is designed for it does a great job. If you're heavily immersed in the music pass which I have been for almost six years now then it works for you, however I also use MixRadio, and Mixtapes. Xbox music doesn't do some of what the other players do, but it doesn't suck.

    Why are you quoting me? I never mentioned anything about downloading playlist.
    03-28-2015 01:42 PM
  25. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    I also have a problem with Xbox music, everytime i copy a podcast onto my phone, it doesnt show up on the list.
    I have to enter my files app and then look for the podcast to open it, which is terrible because its basically a greyed out interface with no album art or any functions at all, and if you hit back it stops playing. Annoying @#?*
    I tried to restart my phone and even force it to scan sd card and it still doesn't do a single thing.

    This is exactly what I've been forced to do.
    03-28-2015 01:45 PM
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