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  1. nate0's Avatar
    I shared some of this on another post...I mainly like this phone for its design and quality of build. The screen is excellent but lacks the kind of control I'd like to see in brightness and color adjustment. The camera is mediocre but I've had worse.

    I needed a device to move to in which I could use Windows 10 Mobile fluently. This phone is a good build quality and I'm not afraid to use it in my day to day. I'm not worried if I bump it on the table despite the price class. To me it's just that type of phone. There are many other good points for this phone as well (finger print reader which I love, continuum, good HP support). With where Microsoft is heading right now I believe this was an easy choice for me to decide on.

    There are only two SD 820 SoC phones outed right now. For what I got at the price I paid, I felt fine with it. I found this one on swappa and bought it as a resale new for about 200 less than what it goes for with the dock. There was no way I was going to pay over 800. I would have maybe waited for the unlocked IDOL 4S with no dock if it was to even come. Based on the class of phone the x3 is, I beleive it will hold its value more so over other Windows 10 Phones. I think this phone will last longer much like the Nokia brand. I mean it is water/dust resistant, and shock resistant. Very good feature to have and I really like that.


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    11-13-2016 03:50 PM
  2. pazces84's Avatar
    Top is iPhone and bottom is Elite. Both are Daniel Rubino.
    11-20-2016 08:58 AM
  3. sco0by1's Avatar
    so question, i can't see when i'd use the desk dock. so should i buy with or save $100 and buy it without? anyone???
    11-21-2016 12:30 AM
  4. nate0's Avatar
    so question, i can't see when i'd use the desk dock. so should i buy with or save $100 and buy it without? anyone???
    Meaning you don't feel you'll need or want to use the feature? Or you're not aware of what it's used for?

    I'd say if you're more inclined to save money then do that. You can always purchase the dock separately later. Heck you'll probably find a good deal on eBay here in a few months. This way you can get a good feel for the phone and have time to purchase the dock later if you want.

    If the first question fits you, I feel you there. I was under the same impression, and being that continuum is still kinda new meaning being developed/refined, I shied away from it until I got this phone. However mainly because I never had the hardware. I owned a 950 and also the xl version both but never the continuum hardware for them. The x3 I bought came with the dock, but due to my hectic schedule I just barely used the dock this past week. Scour the threads for folks using the dock to see if it's even appealing in the slightest. Personally I'm planning to use it more and more. It's a really interesting experience for me. Granted it's a work in progress...but to use something I carry around in my pocket as my experience out mobile and then back in my home as my experience like sitting in front of a screen and mouse is a fun innovative concept.

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    11-21-2016 12:54 AM
  5. sco0by1's Avatar
    Meaning you don't feel you'll need or want to use the feature? Or you're not aware of what it's used for?

    I'd say if you're more inclined to save money then do that. You can always purchase the dock separately later. Heck you'll probably find a good deal on eBay here in a few months. This way you can get a good feel for the phone and have time to purchase the dock later if you want.

    If the first question fits you, I feel you there. I was under the same impression, and being that continuum is still kinda new meaning being developed/refined, I shied away from it until I got this phone. However mainly because I never had the hardware. I owned a 950 and also the xl version both but never the continuum hardware for them. The x3 I bought came with the dock, but due to my hectic schedule I just barely used the dock this past week. Scour the threads for folks using the dock to see if it's even appealing in the slightest. Personally I'm planning to use it more and more. It's a really interesting experience for me. Granted it's a work in progress...but to use something I carry around in my pocket as my experience out mobile and then back in my home as my experience like sitting in front of a screen and mouse is a fun innovative concept.

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    Well i think i got a handle on how it's used, but i'm currently unsure when i'd use it. i have a windows 10 pro tablet at home that i use daily / nightly as my primary device for everything else, don't even have a desk top anymore.

    but i do like your idea, probably just buy it without the dock now and pick one up down the line if the need arises i guess. i love Win Mobile, and i'm always looking for the next best device. App gap may be real, but i've learned to work around it.

    I have the L 950 XL now and am ready to upgrade. although i must say, after Daniel's review of the alcatel idol s4 i've been on the fence. ughhhhhh
    11-21-2016 01:16 AM
  6. nate0's Avatar
    Well i think i got a handle on how it's used, but i'm currently unsure when i'd use it. i have a windows 10 pro tablet at home that i use daily / nightly as my primary device for everything else, don't even have a desk top anymore.

    but i do like your idea, probably just buy it without the dock now and pick one up down the line if the need arises i guess. i love Win Mobile, and i'm always looking for the next best device. App gap may be real, but i've learned to work around it.

    I have the L 950 XL now and am ready to upgrade. although i must say, after Daniel's review of the alcatel idol s4 i've been on the fence. ughhhhhh
    The idol 4s is a cool windows phone. I interacted with and held it at a tmo store. Since its exclusive to T-Mobile for now, it was a definite no for me and yes to the x3.

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    11-21-2016 12:23 PM
  7. nate0's Avatar
    Well i think i got a handle on how it's used, but i'm currently unsure when i'd use it. i have a windows 10 pro tablet at home that i use daily / nightly as my primary device for everything else, don't even have a desk top anymore.

    but i do like your idea, probably just buy it without the dock now and pick one up down the line if the need arises i guess. i love Win Mobile, and i'm always looking for the next best device. App gap may be real, but i've learned to work around it.

    I have the L 950 XL now and am ready to upgrade. although i must say, after Daniel's review of the alcatel idol s4 i've been on the fence. ughhhhhh
    If you can hold out some more time. See what hp and Microsoft are brewing up for the 1st quarter in 2017. Looks like there are plans for another Windows mobile phone in the works.

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    11-21-2016 12:26 PM
  8. Bjfcm's Avatar
    I shared some of this on another post...I mainly like this phone for its design and quality of build. The screen is excellent but lacks the kind of control I'd like to see in brightness and color adjustment. The camera is mediocre but I've had worse.

    I needed a device to move to in which I could use Windows 10 Mobile fluently. This phone is a good build quality and I'm not afraid to use it in my day to day. I'm not worried if I bump it on the table despite the price class. To me it's just that type of phone. There are many other good points for this phone as well (finger print reader which I love, continuum, good HP support). With where Microsoft is heading right now I believe this was an easy choice for me to decide on.

    There are only two SD 820 SoC phones outed right now. For what I got at the price I paid, I felt fine with it. I found this one on swappa and bought it as a resale new for about 200 less than what it goes for with the dock. There was no way I was going to pay over 800. I would have maybe waited for the unlocked IDOL 4S with no dock if it was to even come. Based on the class of phone the x3 is, I beleive it will hold its value more so over other Windows 10 Phones. I think this phone will last longer much like the Nokia brand. I mean it is water/dust resistant, and shock resistant. Very good feature to have and I really like that.


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    Thanks ! You made some great points . I am definitely diving in. I think its important to support efforts like this ( HP creating such a quality device on our OS .). I happen to utilized what's good about the phone. , Productivity , Power , Battery life. Good Build , Water Proof, Security and I haven't even added the Continuum aspect. I am glad to hear ' Positive" feedback .. I get very tired of people who in my opinion just may need a different operating system

    There are many great things about Windows Phone besides the" Lumia Camera" and" Apps". Its a phone not a Camera or Xbox.. I understand that some people like Cameras , Apps . but this is suppose to be a Pro Windows Phone Site and I come here for advice on how to improve problems and unite with people who see promise , like the OS and realize that Software and technology is never finished ( that's why Android and others are constantly Upgrading their Apps , Firmware and OS as well.
    12-04-2016 03:35 AM
  9. aleunge's Avatar
    Good read all around. Thanks for this guys... seriously thinking about the X3.
    12-06-2016 11:43 AM
  10. stephanejap's Avatar
    Just made the jump and decided to retire my 950xl.*Got the phone delivered today and did the firmware and Anniversary upgrades. The phone is finishing the app upgrades now. I have to say I am impressed with the build quality and performance so far (as a lot of users here are). The device just looks*great and the size takes me back to my 1520...
    UPDATE 1: 3 Days in and what stands out to me the most is the absolutely amazing battery life I get from this unit! Nothing like the 950xl, total night and day! And to top it all, I get all my notifications! I also managed to*get all the*Lumia alerts and sounds copied over*(pretty much the only thing I*was missing from the 950xl).
    UPDATE 2: I have not been able to get the phone to pick up LTE. No matter what I tried. Went to my local AT&T store to see if they could play around with my APN settings... I even had a replacement device sent to me by HP and even that one couldn't get LTE. I have strong LTE wherever I am with the 950xl but no luck with the Elite X3. It seems the strongest signal I can get on the Elite X3 is HSPA+. Oh well...
    Last edited by stephanejap; 02-11-2017 at 02:59 PM. Reason: Updating review
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    12-08-2016 01:29 PM
  11. nate0's Avatar
    Just made the jump and decided to retire my 950xl.*Got the phone delivered today and did the firmware and Anniversary upgrades. The phone is finishing the app upgrades now. I have to say I am impressed with the build quality and performance so far (as a lot of users here are). The device just looks*great and the size takes me back to my 1520...
    Yep. Killer Windows device!
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    12-08-2016 01:32 PM
  12. zmancb7's Avatar
    I'll keep my review short and bitter since that's how I'm feeling towards this phone.

    1st phone worked for 1 full day out of the week I owned it before becoming fairly unusable. Constant freezes (lock screen and button unresponsive).
    2nd phone worked for 1.5 days with zero issues before displaying similar issues.

    I've tolerated a lot over the years with WP. I don't know what else to do. This device isn't feeling very premium at all. I've been so bothered I actually started a daily log to keep track of all the issues I've been dealing with and what I was doing at the time.

    Yes I'm on the latest firmware. Yes I'm on the latest build of W10M. No I'm not doing any insider rings. I have AT&T, it has a new SIM card in. No SD card. Not doing anything fancy, no crazy apps, haven't used Continuum that extensively. Definitely not overworking this phone at all.

    Don't know what else to say. As real a review as it gets.
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    12-09-2016 11:17 PM
  13. nate0's Avatar
    I'll keep my review short and bitter since that's how I'm feeling towards this phone.

    1st phone worked for 1 full day out of the week I owned it before becoming fairly unusable. Constant freezes (lock screen and button unresponsive).
    2nd phone worked for 1.5 days with zero issues before displaying similar issues.

    I've tolerated a lot over the years with WP. I don't know what else to do. This device isn't feeling very premium at all. I've been so bothered I actually started a daily log to keep track of all the issues I've been dealing with and what I was doing at the time.

    Yes I'm on the latest firmware. Yes I'm on the latest build of W10M. No I'm not doing any insider rings. I have AT&T, it has a new SIM card in. No SD card. Not doing anything fancy, no crazy apps, haven't used Continuum that extensively. Definitely not overworking this phone at all.

    Don't know what else to say. As real a review as it gets.
    Bummer. Who replaced the first phone?
    12-10-2016 02:14 AM
  14. Corwin_Amber's Avatar
    Zmancb7, sorry to hear. How about a restore - were you using one? Or did you set it up from scratch? Have you used WDRT for a defined, fresh start?

    Besides that, I am out of ideas. You pulled all the right levers.
    12-10-2016 02:29 AM
  15. zmancb7's Avatar
    Bummer. Who replaced the first phone?
    Got it from Microsoft store online, went to a Microsoft store in the mall to get a new one so I didn't have to wait or deal with mailing anything. I saw them open a brand new desk dock bundle box to give me a new replacement. Have nothing against Microsoft or their employees. They were helpful despite not hearing of any issues regarding the phone,

    Zmancb7, sorry to hear. How about a restore - were you using one? Or did you set it up from scratch? Have you used WDRT for a defined, fresh start?

    Besides that, I am out of ideas. You pulled all the right levers.
    Every single hard reset I've done was from scratch. Was an extreme pain in my butt but all I cared about was having all my texts restored (which it did).

    I used WDRT to flash the first phone after 2 days (as per the advice of this forum and HP forums). I WDRT flashed the second phone as soon as I got home.

    Very upset and really don't know what to do. I can't keep spending $700 for a new phone and waiting a week to be refunded. It's getting ridiculous.
    12-10-2016 09:31 AM
  16. Kelvin N's Avatar
    yup rushed to market it seems.but corporate don't care since they buy extended warranties
    12-12-2016 06:19 PM
  17. grob9642's Avatar
    A well written and thoroughly informative review. Thanks for taking the time to post it so that we can read about your experience. I am thinking of purchasing this item and your efforts here have helped me a great deal.
    01-02-2017 09:44 AM
  18. Iain_S's Avatar
    I have just returned to the X3 after being disappointed in the first purchase when it was first released. I have to say the device is performing much better with latest firmware and rs2 build and I will not be returning it this time. I do hope that HP release an update so the main camera uses its full 16MP and not locked down at 10MP.
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    01-02-2017 06:13 PM
  19. nate0's Avatar
    I have just returned to the X3 after being disappointed in the first purchase when it was first released. I have to say the device is performing much better with latest firmware and rs2 build and I will not be returning it this time. I do hope that HP release an update so the main camera uses its full 16MP and not locked down at 10MP.
    I read also from someone else mentioning that the rear camera was not using PDAF and based on they're analysis it was using CDAF. Clearly HP did not score close to a winner here with the camera but one would hope for more improvements soon.

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    01-03-2017 02:37 PM
  20. spyderzWPC's Avatar
    and my HP elite just died they are shipping a new one to me force reset wont work, sits at the HP screen, was able to use the recovery tool yesterday to fix it but today it wont work. Also I kept seeing only h and h+ for my network never any LTE, they said they had an issue with the sim car holder so they are sending me an update one that works better. uh they asked what phone can I call you on. Um the phone you gave me is dead. Since it is exactly 2 months old I have to go through HP to fix it. I bought it through the MS store.
    01-04-2017 10:13 PM
  21. azgoth444's Avatar
    and my HP elite just died they are shipping a new one to me force reset wont work, sits at the HP screen, was able to use the recovery tool yesterday to fix it but today it wont work. Also I kept seeing only h and h+ for my network never any LTE,
    I got my replacement 2 days ago after getting a DOA (dead on arrival) device before new year's. I also used the wdrt to try and fix the issue but to no avail hence the replacement. Is LTE signal strong in your area? the new unit i got didn't register my LTE so i went to my service provider and they configured it manually and now LTE works. My problem was even when i got the APN settings automatically the phone just didn't register it. Perhaps you could try and bring the new unit to your service provider and ask them to configure a new APN setting manually if it's still like that and see if that works.
    01-05-2017 03:09 AM
  22. spyderzWPC's Avatar
    I got a replacement had to go to att to get it online. next moring it kept having trouble with the sim card even though I got a new one. so I am done. I am sending it back I bought an iPhone. I cant believe I actually no longer have a windows phone I have had one since 2011. With no new phones on the horizon and the all the phones since win 10 having so many issues. I just cant do it any more. So long windows phones.
    01-08-2017 05:21 PM
  23. nate0's Avatar
    Sorry to hear that. I bet you'll find time to get another windows mobile phone again. I've been there in that I went over to iOS then back to WP then back over to Android and back to iOS and so on and so forth. Now I just keep all three handy :).
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    01-08-2017 05:36 PM
  24. spyderzWPC's Avatar
    they need to make hardware that's stable and has apps. Come on surface phone...we have waited too long.
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    01-08-2017 06:55 PM
  25. spyderzWPC's Avatar
    HP is now sending me a 3rd phone, neither Microsoft or hp will refund me. any body got any ideas? I had to go buy a new phone because I am on call for a hospital and the phone obviously isn't reliable enough.
    01-12-2017 03:39 PM
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