10-25-2016 01:06 PM
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  1. mweflen's Avatar
    I wonder how HP feels about the drastic 950/XL price cut right before it released its do-it-all super phone. It's a pretty tough claim that the X3 is more than twice is good as the 950/XL.

    I mean, I hope the X3 is successful and all. I just imagine a lot of Windows Phone consumers, looking to upgrade, weighing the options, and saying "nah."
    10-20-2016 12:36 AM
  2. Ric Byrum1's Avatar
    This was the first Review I have read on the phone. In my end of the business. I get more input from the computer end of things so that's were I get my info from the consumer is that has recently been a marked improvement from The Audio Beat to the Elite in PC`s and had hoped the phone would have improved. What I do know is Acer got kind of tossed out of the boat because they wanted to do a "me too" type of continuum. I guess HP felt like they had to play ball with MS, which is sad LOL, if MS would just stick to building software and contract other companies to build their hardware, they would have been much better off. One thing should have been a learning moment: The Nokia Lumia Windows Phone adventure. To buy a phone company that was already dying out, attempting to buy and refurbish it that whole idea should have been rethought. At the end of that story, the phone is now gone, unsupported, along with 2.2 billion dollars. When they started this idea, they did so without a lot of forethought. I believe what I would have done breaking into a new market would have been more research acquiring at least 1,000 of the most popular apps by android so that the windows phone would have been more familiar to the consumer and gotten that underway before even whispering the idea of a phone on the open market. It was good to hear your side of the HP phone deal. I believe that is straight up and I will pass it along to my customers.
    10-20-2016 12:45 AM
  3. Ertonimus's Avatar
    This is my problem with the 950 XL as well. Not having LTE on second SIM means no visual voicemail, etc. And at least with AT&T in my region, the 2G reception is very bad compared with LTE on SIM 1. The whole dual SIM thing is not working out quite how I hoped.
    Perhaps I'm missing something here but I rocked a dual sim Lumia while travelling and although I wasn't able to connect to LTE via the second sim I was fine connecting to 3g and HSPA+(4g). There are other bands than LTE and 2g.
    10-20-2016 10:55 AM
  4. loudog3114's Avatar
    I don't know about $1000 - I paid $864 shipped to my house. My opinion is this; if you own a 950XL, it probably isn't worth the cost. If you do not, it probably is. It is a better device to use all around; Faster, better battery life, iris AND fingerprint scanners, much faster iris, larger/wider screen. The fingerprint sensor alone makes it worth a couple hundred in my book, as that makes any device miles easier and more pleasant to use. The iris scanner is only a backup for me, when I have gloves on. The camera, frankly, I couldn't care less, and you should too. Sure, I take pictures; of friends, parties, the occasional attempt at being artsy with a landscape, and I haven't had my hands on a premium phone that didn't fit the bill for those uses in years. Yes, the 950XL will win the stat game when it comes to pictures, but in real life, it just doesn't matter.
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    10-20-2016 12:12 PM
  5. JaimitoFrog's Avatar
    Originally posted by Allen Rhodes
    And throwing exclamation points in doesnt make your point valid. Every other "flagship" phone is a general consumer phone, MS has conceded this market. Every business owner I know in this tech hub of a city, that I have discussed this device with, likes the idea, agrees its a starter and waiting 6mo or more it will cost way less, but isnt willing to switch carriers or suggest to employees that they do so with their personal lines, just for this phone. Or any dual sim. Internationally may become an issue even quicker than here in the states as some countries as a whole are killing off 2g. So what then? No work line or no personal line? Pretty tall favor to ask for a phone.
    Can set the smart sim settings to forward calls from one sim to the other when there is no 2G.
    10-20-2016 03:39 PM
  6. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    Even if the OS becomes stable and polished, we still have the weak ecosystem to deal with. Will the ecosystem come around assuming the OS matures? Maybe it will, but it is not guaranteed.
    It most likely will not. The simple and sobering fact that Microsoft is not proud of W10M/WP almost guarantees that it will be nothing but a niche device. They display very little parity when releasing mobile software and I haven't seen an ad or commercial for W10M/WP since late 2014.

    It reminds me when I tweeted MS Band stating that nobody will never know about the Band if they don't advertise it. They replied and referred me to their YouTube channel. SMH.

    However, I will continue to use W10M because I dislike Android and iOS more than W10M for several reasons.
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    10-20-2016 09:55 PM
  7. MOBBAK's Avatar
    Could you please share with us your reasons for not getting Android or iOS and W10M over them?
    10-21-2016 02:22 AM
  8. diego866's Avatar
    Definitley. That is a legit concern for many XL or 950 owners. It's a nice upgrade but likely not enough to justify the cost. It's like that every year for the iPhone and Apple fans.
    The lumia 950 camera beats the hp x3 camera friend...

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    10-21-2016 03:05 AM
  9. Allen Rhodes's Avatar
    I don't know about $1000 - I paid $864 shipped to my house. My opinion is this; if you own a 950XL, it probably isn't worth the cost. If you do not, it probably is. It is a better device to use all around; Faster, better battery life, iris AND fingerprint scanners, much faster iris, larger/wider screen. The fingerprint sensor alone makes it worth a couple hundred in my book, as that makes any device miles easier and more pleasant to use. The iris scanner is only a backup for me, when I have gloves on. The camera, frankly, I couldn't care less, and you should too. Sure, I take pictures; of friends, parties, the occasional attempt at being artsy with a landscape, and I haven't had my hands on a premium phone that didn't fit the bill for those uses in years. Yes, the 950XL will win the stat game when it comes to pictures, but in real life, it just doesn't matter.
    Again...... Its a great phone. Im not partial to a fingerprint reader just as you arent to a camera. But I beg to differ, the camera on every phone is a BIG deal. I get they are going after business types. But, again, a dual sim needs to be a personal phone as well. So telling me i shouldnt care about a camera spec just because you dont is pure crud. My point is the cost of the device, fine about $900, isnt worth the minimal upgrade from MY, MY, 950XL. I played with the apps on the demo and side by side launched them, barely a noticeable difference. If you are coming from an Icon or even a 1520, I'd say do it. But wait about 6mo when the price plummets. As a prior poster pointed out, for about $300 less, as of today, you can get a slightly less comparable phone. This is all just opinion here guys. If the price point hits $500 by spring and still no word on a Surface phone, I may snag it if I only have one phone line. Because, again, MY phone carrier is killing off the 2G network.
    10-21-2016 11:14 PM
  10. DaveZChicago's Avatar
    So this might not be an accurate comment (and I'd appreciate anyone shedding some light) but I've had several dual sim phones and none of them supported anything other than 2g on the 2nd SIM no matter what the service offering. And they never supported data on the 2nd SIM either (you had to pick which SIM did the data). Don't know if this is inherent in phone design or not? In any case as an FYI I had AT&T for both my SIMs and for whatever reason my 2nd connection with AT&T kept dropping, spend a few fruitless days with AT&T support before finally saying forget it, for the 2nd number transferred to a T-Mobile unlimited voice and text service, $5/mo cheaper than AT&T and they transferred the number over in seconds -- and now the service doesn't drop anymore. I kind of like having different carriers on the SIMs anyways in case I'm in a dead zone with one but not the other.....
    10-24-2016 04:42 PM
  11. Daniel Rubino's Avatar
    Limitations of the chipset by Qualcomm. IIRC there are no Snapdragon's that support dual LTE radios.
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    10-24-2016 04:52 PM
  12. anthonyng's Avatar
    Limitations of the chipset by Qualcomm. IIRC there are no Snapdragon's that support dual LTE radios.
    Hopefully on their way... I guess in asia markets, 2g is still prevalent to satisfy their dual sim needs however, in NA it's all winding down :(
    10-25-2016 01:06 PM
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