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  1. EuroKnuter's Avatar
    Any source?
    Doubtful, it's a generalization. :)

    As an example, my Xbox One is effectively dead (no matter how much my children and I use it today), because they've announced Project Scorpio, which has features I can't get on my XBox. The next release of Intel chips makes all of my devices effectively dead because none of them can take advantage of those advances.
    920Walker and TgeekB like this.
    01-12-2017 11:44 AM
  2. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Any source?

    For x86 on ARM you need to have the SD835 chip. Since no current phone has it, the statement is correct. Probably the only thing that made sense in that post.
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    01-12-2017 02:18 PM
  3. JaimitoFrog's Avatar
    Welcome to tech.
    01-12-2017 05:25 PM
  4. TgeekB's Avatar
    Welcome to tech.
    Exactly.
    Even cars. You go out and buy a new car and then they announce next years model which is bigger and better. It's called marketing and it's designed for you to spend all your money without thinking.
    OP. Enjoy your 950 for what it is, an excellent device. Sit back, have a beer, and observe what happens over the next year or so. Live in the moment not some imaginary future. It's fun to think about this stuff but I'm not going to be fooled into stressing about it.

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    01-12-2017 05:34 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Exactly.
    Even cars. You go out and buy a new car and then they announce next years model which is bigger and better. It's called marketing and it's designed for you to spend all your money without thinking.
    OP. Enjoy your 950 for what it is, an excellent device. Sit back, have a beer, and observe what happens over the next year or so. Live in the moment not some imaginary future. It's fun to think about this stuff but I'm not going to be fooled into stressing about it.

    Sent from mTalk
    Even the same model can get a mid-year improvement. Not just cars, the Lumia 1520 got a 32GB model after release.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
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    01-12-2017 06:43 PM
  6. earthman007's Avatar
    I'm guessing that few here think MS is really giving us phone customers what we'd expect from them , which is probably more accurately to be viewed as what we really want from them. We're now getting Windows 10, with regular updates - and that's about all that MS is offering us at present.

    There will probably be some new handsets coming from somebody, somewhere - but we don't really know and shouldn't bank on it. The only safe assumption when we're now buying W10m handsets is that they'll work during out warranty period and possibly gain some OS updates, depending upon how long we keep the handset.

    Many of us love the platform - I certainly do. Will I buy another handset in future? I probably will, unless I learn of any alterations to MS plans. But having fallen into the trap of believing that I would be endowed with somewhat vague future blessings from MS and handset manufacturers in the past, I think the only wise position is to buy for the longer term and be prepared to be reasonably content if you only maintain the functionality as purchased, rather than gain any more at any point. And this stacks up whether it's a top or lower end device - it's probably going to save us all from heartache and anguish, if we just accept things warts and all.

    If many of us hadn't had past dreams for how this platform could have flourished differently, then we'd not be adding any present discontent on top of that older frustration and maybe anger. They've given us some baggage.
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    01-15-2017 11:29 AM
  7. Ivan05il's Avatar
    Personally I don't really care if I don't get Windows on ARM on my X3. I do care though if there are annoying bugs that complicate my life in daily use. I gave up on apps on SD, because it just did not work reliably. Sometimes I have to restart the phone to be able to connect with Skype to my contacts. I had the same problem with Wi-Fi, but that seems to improve, knock wood. SMTP does not work for one of my email accounts (it does work everywhere else including my old L1520 with W10M on it). None of it is really a deal breaker, but I would expect that a business phone is reliable about all even if it lacks features. Instead I got an expensive phone that lacks features and is unreliable. That's what _I_ find frustrating.
    01-16-2017 07:55 AM
  8. Zulfigar's Avatar
    There's going to be someone out there who will be able to put Windows 10 for ARM on the Elite x3 once a device running Windows 10 on ARM comes out.
    01-16-2017 09:31 AM
  9. nate0's Avatar
    There's going to be someone out there who will be able to put Windows 10 for ARM on the Elite x3 once a device running Windows 10 on ARM comes out.
    Folks will attempt to, you can count on it.
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    01-16-2017 10:45 AM
  10. PerfectReign's Avatar
    Microsoft put Astoria in their builds, which was heaven sent, then pulled it. Then they claimed their ios to uwp tool (I forget the project name) would close the app gap. .
    Island wood, IIRC.

    I did have Astoria running on my 1520 but that was killed by political issues.


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    01-16-2017 09:50 PM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Island wood, IIRC.

    I did have Astoria running on my 1520 but that was killed by political issues.


    Sent from mTalk
    Unscrupulous app pirates killed Astoria.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
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    01-17-2017 08:48 AM
  12. loudog3114's Avatar
    Welcome to tech.
    Weak excuse. An iPhone gets updates for years to come and any android phone is almost always guaranteed to at least get one version upgrade. This phone is totally DIW. The creators update brings nothing to mobile.
    01-17-2017 12:23 PM
  13. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Weak excuse. An iPhone gets updates for years to come and any android phone is almost always guaranteed to at least get one version upgrade. This phone is totally DIW. The creators update brings nothing to mobile.
    Any Android? Maybe a higher end model from Samsung, LG or HTC.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
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    01-18-2017 10:36 AM
  14. NinjaWayne's Avatar
    From what I have seen and although the statements have been that a SD835 chip will be required, the fact is all the demo videos have had Windows 10 running on a SD820... the same chip in an X3.

    I wouldn't count it out just yet :)

    - Hopeful Windows Fan
    01-31-2017 11:39 PM
  15. MOBBAK's Avatar
    From what I have seen and although the statements have been that a SD835 chip will be required, the fact is all the demo videos have had Windows 10 running on a SD820... the same chip in an X3.

    I wouldn't count it out just yet :)

    - Hopeful Windows Fan
    What would you think the reason of showing HP Elite X3 at the end?



    I think Cristiano R. Amon gave us a hint of the future of this device.
    02-01-2017 12:45 AM
  16. fatclue_98's Avatar
    From what I have seen and although the statements have been that a SD835 chip will be required, the fact is all the demo videos have had Windows 10 running on a SD820... the same chip in an X3.

    I wouldn't count it out just yet :)

    - Hopeful Windows Fan
    That means nothing. DeviceID probably doesn't even have the 835.
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    02-06-2017 06:55 PM
  17. Ivan05il's Avatar
    I think if they make it available for the phones at all, they will test the performance on various models and then set up upgrade paths based on the results. It does not make sense to install it if the phone runs like a dog after.
    02-07-2017 08:44 AM
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