1. dksf42's Avatar
    SEVERAL stories today about this !!!

    This "MUST be" because a "VERY profitable" number large Enterprise customers told HP and Verizon that "they MUST HAVE THIS"!

    Verizon may soon start selling the HP Elite x3
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    07-22-2017 04:59 PM
  2. dksf42's Avatar
    Looks like HP "ALREADY knows how to do this"! It would make sense in large Enterprise "deployments" to require BOTH a "smartphone AND a laptop solution".

    https://odi-device.verizonwireless.c...#!/device/4917
    07-22-2017 05:57 PM
  3. aj173's Avatar
    Fake news. The phone is already a year old, and by the time it got certified and hit the shelves, you'd be looking at a phone that would be about 18 months old and one SoC generation behind current flagships. With the another SoC gen not far behind it. Two upgrade cycles is ancient in phone years, and carrier stores thrive on latest and greatest. Not to mention that W10M is a commercial failure that nobody wants. HP might make a Verizon-compatible version of this phone, but Verizon is not going to sell it in their stores or website, so you're going to be disappointed if you're waiting for carrier financing options to help you get your hands on one
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    07-23-2017 06:59 PM
  4. dksf42's Avatar
    I, for one, couldn't care less IF Verizon ever sells it in their stores! One article said something about an MVNO and all I care is if it will run on the Verizon Network. Of course, just like the current GSM model, AVAILABLE from the Microsoft store, I hope the Microsoft sells it directly.

    If ONLY HP, I will but it directly from HP as Verizon has become nothing but a "DUMB PIPE" and adds "zero value" to my purchase.

    Any other "business people" that would buy this?
    07-23-2017 07:30 PM
  5. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    I'll buy one in a heartbeat as soon as it becomes available!
    07-23-2017 07:39 PM
  6. dksf42's Avatar
    NOT Fake News ... another article

    https://www.phonearena.com/news/HP-E...erizon_id96283

    HP must have some VERY large "Enterprise customers" that want to buy as this is NOT for consumers.
    07-23-2017 07:57 PM
  7. dksf42's Avatar
    If this article is true, then the "plot actually thickens" !!!

    HP has an enormous "Partner channel" and I would bet that the Elite X3 is a "critical endpoint device" in sales, service, etc.

    NO VERIZON would likely impact even HP as "everyone can't be on ATT"!

    Microsoft Claims Big Software Win in HP | Fortune.com
    07-23-2017 08:55 PM
  8. Nate W's Avatar
    Fake news. The phone is already a year old, and by the time it got certified and hit the shelves, you'd be looking at a phone that would be about 18 months old and one SoC generation behind current flagships. With the another SoC gen not far behind it. Two upgrade cycles is ancient in phone years, and carrier stores thrive on latest and greatest. Not to mention that W10M is a commercial failure that nobody wants. HP might make a Verizon-compatible version of this phone, but Verizon is not going to sell it in their stores or website, so you're going to be disappointed if you're waiting for carrier financing options to help you get your hands on one
    It is not fake. I posted all the certifications back in June. It has been fcc certified since the end of May with the new model adding LTE 13 and CDMA support. https://forums.windowscentral.com/up...-new-post.html

    Edit: I will add that I have an email from HP Support stating that the VZW model will not be sold by HP, and therefore they do not have the ability to know when the release date is. VZ is suppose to offer this one at their store. My hunch is that it will be a single sim device. Why HP waited so long to do this is beyond me.
    Last edited by Nate W; 07-24-2017 at 01:35 AM. Reason: additonal info
    07-24-2017 01:27 AM
  9. etphoto's Avatar
    I've always believed one cause for W10M slowly losing market share was the lack of devices on Big Red's network.

    I also agree some big HP customers must be demanding this in order for HP to put out the cost of going Verizon on a year old phone.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    07-24-2017 06:51 AM
  10. dksf42's Avatar
    It is not fake. I posted all the certifications back in June. It has been fcc certified since the end of May with the new model adding LTE 13 and CDMA support. https://forums.windowscentral.com/up...-new-post.html

    Edit: I will add that I have an email from HP Support stating that the VZW model will not be sold by HP, and therefore they do not have the ability to know when the release date is. VZ is suppose to offer this one at their store. My hunch is that it will be a single sim device. Why HP waited so long to do this is beyond me.
    Super undercover work Nate W, but I also read something about "MVNO on Verizon". The fact that Verizon "appears" to headed towards carrying it in their stores (support people only know little) I am still guessing that some LARGER Enterprise customers "stimulated this to happen" and I really "doubt" that HP - nor their legions of partners in the US - are going to "wait" for Verizon to screw them over.

    We shall soon see !!!
    07-24-2017 12:18 PM
  11. dksf42's Avatar
    I've always believed one cause for W10M slowly losing market share was the lack of devices on Big Red's network.

    I also agree some big HP customers must be demanding this in order for HP to put out the cost of going Verizon on a year old phone.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    There is little doubt that the lack of Verizon "LTE support" helped to kill WM 10. My hates off to HP for pushing the Elite X3. Perhaps, Verizon "senior blood-sucking management" saw an opportunity to make $$$ off of HP's hard work in promoting and selling the Elite X3 to Enterprise customers?

    Verizon would NOT being doing this to help people = so, there MUST BE "big orders looming"!
    07-24-2017 12:22 PM
  12. camaroz1985's Avatar
    This would be great news to the few remaining VZW W10M fans. If existing X3's could be used on their network, it would be even better news.
    07-24-2017 01:38 PM
  13. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    Fake news. The phone is already a year old, and by the time it got certified and hit the shelves, you'd be looking at a phone that would be about 18 months old and one SoC generation behind current flagships. With the another SoC gen not far behind it. Two upgrade cycles is ancient in phone years, and carrier stores thrive on latest and greatest. Not to mention that W10M is a commercial failure that nobody wants. HP might make a Verizon-compatible version of this phone, but Verizon is not going to sell it in their stores or website, so you're going to be disappointed if you're waiting for carrier financing options to help you get your hands on one
    This, I used to work for Verizon and they've got select products only available to business accounts sold by business reps, can't get them in store or even have a normal store order them in most cases.
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    07-24-2017 02:23 PM
  14. dksf42's Avatar
    This, I used to work for Verizon and they've got select products only available to business accounts sold by business reps, can't get them in store or even have a normal store order them in most cases.
    Thanks L0n3N1nja, so what is your take on this as the current Elite x3 is a year old - is this "coming to the Verizon NETWORK" but NOT for "consumers"?

    I don't care as long as I can order it from the HP website OR the Microsoft store as with the current GSM version.
    07-24-2017 03:11 PM
  15. ramtwins25's Avatar
    It is not fake. I posted all the certifications back in June. It has been fcc certified since the end of May with the new model adding LTE 13 and CDMA support. https://forums.windowscentral.com/up...-new-post.html

    Edit: I will add that I have an email from HP Support stating that the VZW model will not be sold by HP, and therefore they do not have the ability to know when the release date is. VZ is suppose to offer this one at their store. My hunch is that it will be a single sim device. Why HP waited so long to do this is beyond me.
    It seems this is not a new version at all. But rather, they are just unlocking existing bands on the same device. This seems to be what our HP rep was being told when called in to his support desk today. I wonder if all this time the phone was capable of band 13 but was never turned on?
    07-24-2017 06:38 PM
  16. dksf42's Avatar
    It seems this is not a new version at all. But rather, they are just unlocking existing bands on the same device. This seems to be what our HP rep was being told when called in to his support desk today. I wonder if all this time the phone was capable of band 13 but was never turned on?
    According to a Reddit session, last July/August 2016, the CDMA and LTE Ban 13 "radios" were "on-board" but NOT enabled (via firmware as I recall). There was also NO attempt at certification, and the "cost", which was most likely born by HP and occurred - as Nate W uncovered and reported - until THIS May 2017.

    That's over 1 year ... so, WHO is to blame?

    Actually, who cares at this point, as I just want to buy an Elite x3 form HP directly or the Microsoft store!!!
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    07-24-2017 07:17 PM
  17. Nate W's Avatar
    It seems this is not a new version at all. But rather, they are just unlocking existing bands on the same device. This seems to be what our HP rep was being told when called in to his support desk today. I wonder if all this time the phone was capable of band 13 but was never turned on?
    HP still needs Verizons blessing for it to actually activate on their network though. Which means a subset of device imei numbers that are on devices out there with that capable firmware/HW. I mean I doubt the current phones would be unlocked to move to VZ, right?
    Last edited by Nate W; 07-25-2017 at 10:55 PM.
    07-24-2017 08:12 PM
  18. dksf42's Avatar
    Well, well, well ... DEALS like this usually signal a model upgrade!

    HP UK Deal until 7-31-2017: HP Elite x3 with Desk Dock for just £400

    https://mspoweruser.com/deal-hp-elit...-dock-for-400/

    COME ON HP "US" ... enable Verizon and "offer us this deal' and watch them sell :)
    07-25-2017 12:25 PM
  19. dksf42's Avatar
    08-03-2017 11:27 AM
  20. etphoto's Avatar
    All good news but when? Lol

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    08-03-2017 01:15 PM
  21. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    I actually started that thread!

    As a bit of an update, I went into my local Verizon store the other day and asked them specifically about the HP Elite X3 and whether they would be carrying it soon. He looked it up in his computer and said he couldn't find anything officially, but said, and I quote, "there are rumors in some of their internal corporate communications that it may be released soon."
    08-03-2017 01:17 PM
  22. Nate W's Avatar
    There is talk on that forum of LTE only phones should be released by Microsoft to go on VZ. The AT&T model of the Lumia 950 supports bands 7 and 13 though so not sure how VZ is able to provision on a phone that supports those bands...

    EDIT: Actually it supports all of them (2, 4, 5, and 13).

    How does a phone that has an active VZ sim card work out with LTE only if it has no CDMA (1xRTT & EV-DO/eHRPD)?
    08-03-2017 07:25 PM

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