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  1. ocdtrekkie's Avatar
    "As for Android devices, Google says that anything running the November 6 2017 security patch level will be protected."

    From: Major vulnerability discovered in WPA2 Wi-Fi security protocol, affects Android and pretty much everything else

    So, I am thinking the whole "no intention of fixing it" may be a little bit of an exaggeration....
    No intention of fixing their overarching failed security handling, is what I said.

    Not having KRACK fixed until November is an embarrassment. Everyone else had their patches out in early October. It's hard to even explain the extent of the monumental failure on Google's part that a November 6th fix represents.

    And remember: That's only for the few Android devices that ever get the November patch level. Most won't. Let me remind you that 0.2% of Android devices run the current version of Android. And let me also remind you that every Windows 10 Mobile device and every iOS device made in the past five years, was already patched a month ago.
    11-01-2017 04:13 PM
  2. nate0's Avatar
    @evilkingteapot
    Thanks for sharing that.
    11-01-2017 05:37 PM
  3. JethroB's Avatar
    I doubt Bill and Joe use their Galaxy Phones for anything more than phone calls. I'm sure not a single byte of personal data is accessed on them. They probably sign in with an alias and just play with Microsoft apps just to see how they work.
    They probably use Andromeda devices for transferring secure data.
    11-01-2017 08:03 PM
  4. nate0's Avatar
    It is live now...599.00.
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    11-01-2017 11:20 PM
  5. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    It is live now...599.00.
    Thanks for the update! I have a Pixel 2 in had right now charging. Debating whether I should pull the trigger. Do you know what the MicrosoftStore.com return policy is?
    11-01-2017 11:33 PM
  6. nate0's Avatar
    Thanks for the update! I have a Pixel 2 in had right now charging. Debating whether I should pull the trigger. Do you know what the MicrosoftStore.com return policy is?
    Buried but found it. Number 16. here it says 30 days and so on so forth

    For some reason the link is broke, but you get the point...
    11-01-2017 11:45 PM
  7. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    Buried but found it. Number 16. here it says 30 days and so on so forth

    For some reason the link is broke, but you get the point...
    Awesome! Thank you sir!

    I might just get it to play around with to see if I like it enough to stay with W10M. If the camera was better, I probably would without hesitation. However, that and the ultra large size are making me hesitant. I'm coming from an ATIV SE and the Pixel 2 is almost the exact same dimensions and just comfortable one-handed. (I have small hands). The X3 is going to be a beast for me. But I really am not fond of Android (or Google as a company).

    Ugh, decisions, decisions...
    11-01-2017 11:52 PM
  8. evilkingteapot's Avatar
    It's actually listed in stock near me in a Microsoft store. Could that be possible? For all my whining I may go and pick one up tomorrow if available.
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    11-01-2017 11:55 PM
  9. nate0's Avatar
    Awesome! Thank you sir!

    I might just get it to play around with to see if I like it enough to stay with W10M. If the camera was better, I probably would without hesitation. However, that and the ultra large size are making me hesitant. I'm coming from an ATIV SE and the Pixel 2 is almost the exact same dimensions and just comfortable one-handed. (I have small hands). The X3 is going to be a beast for me. But I really am not fond of Android (or Google as a company).

    Ugh, decisions, decisions...
    Selling my Essential phone tonight actually. Hopefully I sell some of my others off too. Placed my order already. Wish you the best. The cameras on the pixel 2's are only going to get better as Oreo updates get pushed.
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    11-01-2017 11:55 PM
  10. ocdtrekkie's Avatar
    ORDER PLACED. Thanks for the notification, Nate, I probably wouldn't have checked until tomorrow morning.
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    11-02-2017 12:06 AM
  11. nate0's Avatar
    ORDER PLACED. Thanks for the notification, Nate, I probably wouldn't have checked until tomorrow morning.
    No problem. I work a swing shift, was about to get off shift and figured I would take one last peek at the site. :)
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    11-02-2017 02:01 AM
  12. JethroB's Avatar
    It shows in stock at my local Microsoft store. I'll be picking one up after work. Finally!
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    11-02-2017 05:36 AM
  13. bjones0821's Avatar
    It is live now...599.00.
    Thanks. I had actually gone to bed and was going to check in the morning. I was poking around my phone and got the email for a reply to this thread and ordered from my phone, in bed.
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    11-02-2017 06:14 AM
  14. aximtreo's Avatar
    I have one for sale on this site for half the price. The "only" difference is it's for GSM carriers and not CDMA. Just saying.
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    11-02-2017 07:21 AM
  15. ocdtrekkie's Avatar
    It shows in stock at my local Microsoft store. I'll be picking one up after work. Finally!
    I probably could hit up my local Microsoft Store, but by the time I could get there, it'll probably arrive by mail anyways. Figured I'd lock in my order now.

    I have one for sale on this site for half the price. The "only" difference is it's for GSM carriers and not CDMA. Just saying.
    Those of us who have been on Verizon for a long time are pretty used to paying more for phones on our carrier.
    11-02-2017 08:39 AM
  16. JethroB's Avatar
    With overwhelming demand, the phone is already out of stock at the online Microsoft store.
    Looks like only current option is to purchase at brick and mortar store.
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    11-02-2017 12:00 PM
  17. evilkingteapot's Avatar
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    So I have one now. The store manager told me they came in two weeks ago but no one asked for them until today. Two weeks isn't going to kill me but it adds to more frustration that if HP and Microsoft together can't figure out when they're selling something that this platform was never going to survive. One of the guys in the store also said the platform has been pretty much dead since January of this year. He pulled out his 1520 and said he loved it but suggested I start taking a look at the Samsung Androids as that was Microsoft's future direction.

    That being said - he was excited I was buying one.
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    11-02-2017 01:21 PM
  18. PuckCowboy's Avatar
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    So I have one now. The store manager told me they came in two weeks ago but no one asked for them until today. Two weeks isn't going to kill me but it adds to more frustration that if HP and Microsoft together can't figure out when they're selling something that this platform was never going to survive. One of the guys in the store also said the platform has been pretty much dead since January of this year. He pulled out his 1520 and said he loved it but suggested I start taking a look at the Samsung Androids as that was Microsoft's future direction.

    That being said - he was excited I was buying one.
    WOW, even Microsoft Store associates suggesting people buy Androids? The writing isn't just on the wall, it's in stone :(

    So sad. I was gung ho on getting an Elite X3 for Verizon but one can't help but feel deflated at this point.
    11-02-2017 01:35 PM
  19. evilkingteapot's Avatar
    So sad. I was gung ho on getting an Elite X3 for Verizon but one can't help but feel deflated at this point.
    Get one. This is going to sound ridiculous - but I've been playing for it for about 10 minutes and this is an awesome phone. The build quality feels really solid. The dock is an absolute brick - and I didn't realize it even came with a built in gigabit port. It feels similar in my hand to my wife's 7s plus only the iPhone has a metalic back vs the rubberized x3 back.

    Coming from an Icon, the UI seems more responsive. I never thought the Icon was sluggish, but the transitions on screen feel snappier on the x3.
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    11-02-2017 02:02 PM
  20. kidfromborneo's Avatar
    After reading in here that it was out of stock, I had to call Microsoft. And yes they are out of stock but can be found in some of their stores, except it seems here in Arizona they show out of stock. But I will call my local store and see if that's true. But the Microsoft rep. did say the phones were going to have more in stock next month and are suppose to be a new model. ?? I don't know how true that is but if anyone here who has better connections than me could find out that would be awesome.
    11-02-2017 02:10 PM
  21. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    Get one. This is going to sound ridiculous - but I've been playing for it for about 10 minutes and this is an awesome phone. The build quality feels really solid. The dock is an absolute brick - and I didn't realize it even came with a built in gigabit port. It feels similar in my hand to my wife's 7s plus only the iPhone has a metalic back vs the rubberized x3 back.

    Coming from an Icon, the UI seems more responsive. I never thought the Icon was sluggish, but the transitions on screen feel snappier on the x3.
    Thanks @evilkingteapot!

    Are you able to comment on the app loading and responsiveness. Apps on my ATIV SE like FB Messenger take forever to load up. Also how is the camera?How is the sound out of the front speakers? What are your thoughts on the display? How bright is it?

    Thanks again!
    11-02-2017 02:15 PM
  22. ocdtrekkie's Avatar
    I love that the Windows Mobile phone that Windows Central editors said nobody wanted is out of stock in less than 24 hours. Maybe Microsoft even might notice there's a huge demand they're just not filling.
    11-02-2017 03:02 PM
  23. nate0's Avatar
    I can still click on it and add the verzion model to my bag online. Are you guys sure it is out of stock?
    11-02-2017 03:13 PM
  24. ocdtrekkie's Avatar
    I can still click on it and add the verzion model to my bag online. Are you guys sure it is out of stock?
    I am confused because I can also, but I saw screenshots that specifically showed the Verizon model out of stock.
    11-02-2017 03:18 PM
  25. evilkingteapot's Avatar
    I love that the Windows Mobile phone that Windows Central editors said nobody wanted is out of stock in less than 24 hours. Maybe Microsoft even might notice there's a huge demand they're just not filling.
    @ocdtrekkie

    I just hope they don't use the fact that these things sat in stores unsold for two weeks as a "lack of interest."
    11-02-2017 03:21 PM
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