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  1. joanzen's Avatar
    It's interesting that the phone will apparently not be available on hp.com. I asked about that because I'd like to use my employee discount. Kevin said it would not be available there and said I should check Microsoft.com. In any event, I can't wait to get one of these. The battery of my Icon is on life support...
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    09-29-2017 02:02 PM
  2. sanchezursua's Avatar
    Sorry, but I was very excited to get that info and pass it on.
    09-29-2017 02:49 PM
  3. Williaml99's Avatar
    It would be interesting to know the difference between the GMA models and the Verizon. seems there would have to be hardware differences or you could use a recovery image to flash the firmware ether way. Don't sound like that will be possible. Thanks for the thread. very interesting.
    09-29-2017 03:46 PM
  4. Auburnkid2597's Avatar
    I've got a GSM version at home collecting dust since I switch to Verizon. I plan on buying the CDMA version anyway, so I'll happily use my GSM as a guinea pig and see if it can be flashed with the new firmware. what's the worst thing I can do? brick it? </sarcasm>
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    09-29-2017 03:53 PM
  5. ramtwins25's Avatar
    Spent some time today with HP Support, Tier 3. I had a quick but informative conversation with the agent who stated he was on the HP Elite x3 team supporting Verizon (it was Verizon who xfered me there). He stated that there are some devices out there that already work on Verizon: "Sheree at 1:24:07 PM
    We have the HP Elite x3 (2CF75UT) online that is compatible with Verizon already." He said existing ones would not work not because of hardware "stated also that existing models had all of the radios needed to work on CDMA" but because Verizon later decided only to allow specific IMEI (newly built devices) and higher to work on their network. Stated the only way an existing one would work was to get verizon to add the imei to an accepted list.

    To go a step further, I logged in to my HP distro account and found this in the system as already available:
    elite-x3.jpg

    Also, in the training documents, this version has a boot screen specific to Verizon, so you don't get the HP logo on boot up. Lastly, It appears this one is single sim, not dual sim like before.
    Attached Thumbnails x3.bmp  
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    09-29-2017 04:57 PM
  6. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    Spent some time today with HP Support, Tier 3. I had a quick but informative conversation with the agent who stated he was on the HP Elite x3 team supporting Verizon (it was Verizon who xfered me there). He stated that there are some devices out there that already work on Verizon: "Sheree at 1:24:07 PM
    We have the HP Elite x3 (2CF75UT) online that is compatible with Verizon already." He said existing ones would not work not because of hardware "stated also that existing models had all of the radios needed to work on CDMA" but because Verizon later decided only to allow specific IMEI (newly built devices) and higher to work on their network. Stated the only way an existing one would work was to get verizon to add the imei to an accepted list.

    To go a step further, I logged in to my HP distro account and found this in the system as already available:
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    Also, in the training documents, this version has a boot screen specific to Verizon, so you don't get the HP logo on boot up. Lastly, It appears this one is single sim, not dual sim like before.

    Great info RamTwins25! Very jealous you already have access to the phone in your account! I'm chomping at the bit to order one of these, so mid-October can't come soon enough! I think someone else on this board converted the single sim to a dula sim with a Micro SD card somehow (physically).

    Anyway, do keep us all posted if you hear any more!
    09-29-2017 06:31 PM
  7. nate0's Avatar
    Spent some time today with HP Support, Tier 3. I had a quick but informative conversation with the agent who stated he was on the HP Elite x3 team supporting Verizon (it was Verizon who xfered me there). He stated that there are some devices out there that already work on Verizon: "Sheree at 1:24:07 PM
    We have the HP Elite x3 (2CF75UT) online that is compatible with Verizon already." He said existing ones would not work not because of hardware "stated also that existing models had all of the radios needed to work on CDMA" but because Verizon later decided only to allow specific IMEI (newly built devices) and higher to work on their network. Stated the only way an existing one would work was to get verizon to add the imei to an accepted list.

    To go a step further, I logged in to my HP distro account and found this in the system as already available:
    Click image for larger version. 

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    Also, in the training documents, this version has a boot screen specific to Verizon, so you don't get the HP logo on boot up. Lastly, It appears this one is single sim, not dual sim like before.
    I pretty much figured it would be the single sim. It is also a custom FFU with Verizon baked in fw for their towers and network. Also it makes perfect sense from a sales perspective if the devices are newer models with imei's from them and newer to get accepted on their network.
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    09-29-2017 06:49 PM
  8. tgp's Avatar
    @ramtwins25 You must use one of the distributors I use. I recognized the website format. Here's mine (exactly the same):

    screen-shot-2017-09-29-8.27.13-pm.png

    And this one, from another distributor, shows availability on October 10, 2017. However, I know from experience that the ETA dates are often an educated guess.

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    09-29-2017 07:33 PM
  9. ramtwins25's Avatar
    @ramtwins25 You must use one of the distributors I use. I recognized the website format. Here's mine (exactly the same):

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    And this one, from another distributor, shows availability on October 10, 2017. However, I know from experience that the ETA dates are often an educated guess.

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    Yep, I probably am. Lol. I'll see if anything ships out next week and hopefully have a working model in my hands. I'm also told there will be a few pre-installed apps from Verizon on the device for business customers so still digging in to what those might be.
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    09-29-2017 09:35 PM
  10. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    It's interesting that the phone will apparently not be available on hp.com. I asked about that because I'd like to use my employee discount. Kevin said it would not be available there and said I should check Microsoft.com. In any event, I can't wait to get one of these. The battery of my Icon is on life support...
    Interesting Kevin told you that because he initially told me that it would be available on HP.com, although it may be available first with the Microsoft Store online.

    I also Googled "Verizon HP Elite X3" and a few new news stories popped up talking about some of the latest rumors that the phone will be available mid-Octobers as well. However, the interesting tidbit they all listed was that Verizon would be selling it online. I've heard that from no one, and even the Verizon technical rep I spoke to said this would not be sold by Verizon, but rather by HP directly.

    In any event, I'm just happy it's coming soon!

    Thanks again for sharing all the great info everyone! Please do keep it coming as soon as you learn more.
    09-30-2017 12:40 PM
  11. brian_m85's Avatar

    I also Googled "Verizon HP Elite X3" and a few new news stories popped up talking about some of the latest rumors that the phone will be available mid-Octobers as well. However, the interesting tidbit they all listed was that Verizon would be selling it online. I've heard that from no one, and even the Verizon technical rep I spoke to said this would not be sold by Verizon, but rather by HP directly.

    I sometimes wonder if this forum is the source for some of these news articles. This group has done a lot out ground work.
    09-30-2017 12:45 PM
  12. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    I sometimes wonder if this forum is the source for some of these news articles. This group has done a lot out ground work.
    I wouldn't be surprised. Most of them are Windows sites, possibly with some of the same readers and posters. Oddly enough, Windows Central isn't even reporting on it and it's a thread on their own site, HAHA!
    09-30-2017 12:52 PM
  13. nate0's Avatar
    I wouldn't be surprised. Most of them are Windows sites, possibly with some of the same readers and posters. Oddly enough, Windows Central isn't even reporting on it and it's a thread on their own site, HAHA!
    I sent WC a tip back at the begining of June end of May about the FCC findings. Not sure why they never mentioned or replied on it then.
    09-30-2017 12:54 PM
  14. joanzen's Avatar
    I sent WC a tip back at the begining of June end of May about the FCC findings. Not sure why they never mentioned or replied on it then.
    I just tipped them a couple of days ago and sent along the URL of the page showing the phone on the Verizon site, along with the information posted here. Nothing...
    09-30-2017 03:49 PM
  15. JM_Thomas's Avatar
    First let me qualify this posting by stating this up front:

    I don't like Apple iOS much and I hate Android., even though I have a LG V20 now. Every time I open it the lock screen, I have to keep from tossing it across the room.

    I love the looks of the X3, and even though it is going on 2 year old hardware, I would still buy it in a heartbeat just on the hardware specs alone.

    The one thing that is holding me back from setting aside money for the CDMA X3 version is Windows 10 Mobile. Now I have quite a bit invested in the MS mobile ecosystem, both in workflow planning and on apps purchased the last 3-4 years. So it isn't the software itself, that I love to use.

    My biggest worry is MS Corporates' attitude and plans for "Mobile", specifically Nedalla. He should have never been made CEO imho due to his fixation on everything being pushed to the "cloud". He had no experience in hardware development from what I have been able to read about him, and he never wanted the Mobile devision to succeed to begin with. It would take away from his so-called "vision" of the path MS should take. He has boosted short-term stock prices, but at the expense of long-term market share positioning and mind-share among users/developers.

    I can see MS pulling their standard MO of sell the device, then completely ignoring any support for it save people with HP-tied business accounts. They could just say here are the 10 or 15 apps we will support with the purchase of a HP software subscription contract. They would be not much more than limited scope feature phones.

    I know what I am saying is not going to be well received. I want Win10 Mobile to succeed. It has some great potential, but right now I have to wonder if MS really cares about peoples' perception of how bad MS has treated their customer base with theor lack of interest beyond the quarterly balance records.
    Last edited by JM_Thomas; 10-02-2017 at 01:53 AM. Reason: Grammer
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    10-02-2017 01:48 AM
  16. ocdtrekkie's Avatar
    Keep in mind another Microsoft habit: Providing security updates for an unreasonably long amount of time. It's likely even once Windows Mobile is officially retired, they will continue to provide updates for quite a while.

    I'm not expecting the x3 to last forever, but I suspect it will last me until Microsoft decides what to do next with mobile, or some other party enters the competition.

    Considering that I would rather go to a flip phone than go back to Android... More than happy to buy an Elite x3.
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    10-02-2017 01:59 AM
  17. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    Same here. I'll buy the Elite X3 in a heartbeat. W10m does everything I need it to and then some. I don't use or need all those silly snappychat or game apps, etc. I don't do banking on my phone, and all the social media stuff I do (as limited as it is) is handled fine by Win 10. I can't stand using iOS and I can barely tolerate Android. I'll use Windows mobile for my phone until the wheels fall off or the "Surface" like phone finally materializes. (Or if for some reason my work or personal business requires a move to something else.) Even then I'd keep my W10m for my personal use device. To each their own!
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    10-02-2017 02:06 AM
  18. nate0's Avatar
    Who knows how we'll (consumers) be able to purchase the VZ X3 or what will be the best way? Is HP.com/Microsoft.com confirmed? We recently changed carriers to a prepaid one and it seems like now the prepaid carrier (Cricket) might not cut it for us. We might end up going back to our roots VZ. I'm considering the X3 on VZ but I'll need to sell all my other gsm windows phones together to afford one outright. I have a Lumia icon still and could squeeze by on it till one drops in cheaper someplace I suppose.
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    10-03-2017 01:09 PM
  19. ocdtrekkie's Avatar
    Multiple people have confirmed microsoftstore.com with HP as the place to get this.
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    10-03-2017 01:19 PM
  20. nate0's Avatar
    Multiple people have confirmed microsoftstore.com with HP as the place to get this.
    Thanks. I was afraid this might not be released the same way as the initial gsm market model and be restricted to certain business channels. I'm gonna hunt for a for sure date myself. We have estimates of October 10th. I suppose we'll see it for sure when it happens.
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    10-03-2017 01:25 PM
  21. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    Thanks. I was afraid this might not be released the same way as the initial gsm market model and be restricted to certain business channels. I'm gonna hunt for a for sure date myself. We have estimates of October 10th. I suppose we'll see it for sure when it happens.
    At the moment, the Microsoft Store is selling the AT&T X3 in a bundle with the dock for $599. Fingers crossed they provide something similar for the Verizon model.

    We should hopefully know more in a week or so! I will reach out to Kevin again on Monday the 16th if no phone (or news) has surfaced by then.
    10-03-2017 04:38 PM
  22. ocdtrekkie's Avatar
    Screenshots on this page suggest the MSRP for the phone itself is $699. Don't know if Microsoft will sell under that or not.
    10-03-2017 04:44 PM
  23. Polychrome's Avatar
    However, the interesting tidbit they all listed was that Verizon would be selling it online. I've heard that from no one, and even the Verizon technical rep I spoke to said this would not be sold by Verizon, but rather by HP directly.

    I've seen cases of VZW "drop shipping" certain phone sales before, such as certain motorola devices. So I'm wondering if it will be handled that way?

    Anyway, glad to see something to get excited over. Whatever the surface phone is, I'll finally have something to hold me over, and no WC Doom-n-gloom to get in my way.
    10-03-2017 05:51 PM
  24. JM_Thomas's Avatar
    At the moment, the Microsoft Store is selling the AT&T X3 in a bundle with the dock for $599. Fingers crossed they provide something similar for the Verizon model.

    We should hopefully know more in a week or so! I will reach out to Kevin again on Monday the 16th if no phone (or news) has surfaced by then.
    Hope you can get more info from him.

    I read this and it has me worried:

    https://mspoweruser.com/hp-exec-admi...lite-x3-plans/
    10-05-2017 11:34 AM
  25. ocdtrekkie's Avatar
    Bear in mind JM, that article also comes through the Canalys forum, the same folks who just said Microsoft will ditch the Surface line by 2019 as well.
    10-05-2017 12:18 PM
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