1. George Anglin's Avatar
    I notice that tmobile didnt include this phone. GRRR
    04-02-2014 04:04 PM
  2. xandros9's Avatar
    doesn't mean you can't use the developer preview.
    04-02-2014 04:08 PM
  3. rich4A1's Avatar
    But really? They do it on their "Signature" phone?
    04-02-2014 07:41 PM
  4. Kebero's Avatar
    It's Microsoft's signature phone, not T-Mobile's. Regardless of carrier interference, Microsoft did provide a way to access OS updates.
    04-02-2014 07:43 PM
  5. George Anglin's Avatar
    i am really in love with 8.1 . i guess ill have to stick around and hope that it does drop
    04-03-2014 02:32 AM
  6. Cryio's Avatar
    HTC pledged to bring 8.1 to all HTC 8Xs. So I guess most carrier will approve in time.

    If you don't like to wait you can get 8.1 anyway on April 10 and then wait for the carriers to release HTC's firmwire.
    04-03-2014 10:32 AM
  7. confused_dork's Avatar
    I got a possitive response from htc's twitter handle on the 8.1 update they said that they would be supporting all the windows phone devices.
    wiseguywood and Catalin Esanu like this.
    04-03-2014 01:56 PM
  8. wiseguywood's Avatar
    I will be putting preview 8.1 when it arrives.

    As an orphan of T-Mo phones, i.e. HTC 8x and Nokia Lumia 810 both stuck on GDR 2 without preview, I am thankful that Microsoft has offered a chance to upgrade even without carrier support, which would appear to qualify as supporting a phone at least 18 months after release (is it now 3years??).

    Both of my phones will be updated day 1 of 8.1!

    T-Mo lack of support of dropped Windows Phones is horrible at best.
    04-03-2014 02:59 PM
  9. SteelSteve's Avatar
    Wasn't GDR 3 also a Microsoft update? It has been available to all other 8X phones, but not those on T-Mobile USA. I love my 8X but have no faith that T-Mobile USA will push it. Unfortunately or luckily depending on your point of view my 8X has been acting up forcing me to move to the 925 as I use it for work and T-Mobile has already said that one will get it.
    04-03-2014 08:01 PM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    T-mo ain't updating the 810, and they certainly won't do so for their version of the 8X. They'll argue that both didn't sell enough to warrant those extra resources. Its a shame, but that's why I own an unlocked 8X as I don't trust t-mo at all.
    wiseguywood and peacefulberry like this.
    04-05-2014 06:46 PM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    For some reason, every time I think of T-Mobile I get the urge to go to the bathroom. The laxative effect of T-Mo is amazing.
    wiseguywood and MSFTisMIA like this.
    04-05-2014 07:40 PM
  12. juanitoriv's Avatar
    04-05-2014 08:18 PM
  13. Peter McNeill1's Avatar
    I'm in Canada with an 8X and I got the GDR3 over wifi from MS so I would assume the 8.1 update can be gotten the same way regardless of carrier.
    04-05-2014 11:43 PM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I'm in Canada with an 8X and I got the GDR3 over wifi from MS so I would assume the 8.1 update can be gotten the same way regardless of carrier.
    Um, no. That's very inaccurate.

    That only works of you are factory unlocked. Because MSFT went through OTA via carriers, if your carrier didn't sell enough of that model, they're not obligated to keep the updates coming. That is what happened with t-mo's 8X and their 810. As much as HTC, Nokia and MSFT want to update both phones, t-mo isn't interested.
    04-06-2014 07:39 AM
  15. juanitoriv's Avatar
    T-Mobile stopped support for the 8X with GDR2. I also got the GDR3 direct using Dev Preview. I am sure we'll get it that way as well.
    04-06-2014 08:15 AM
  16. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Um, no. That's very inaccurate.

    That only works of you are factory unlocked. Because MSFT went through OTA via carriers, if your carrier didn't sell enough of that model, they're not obligated to keep the updates coming. That is what happened with t-mo's 8X and their 810. As much as HTC, Nokia and MSFT want to update both phones, t-mo isn't interested.
    That is some kind of BS. I'm glad John Chen told T-Mo to shove it. BB is in no position to dictate terms but at least they're keeping their pride. MS needs to show T-Mo that there will be no wag-the-dog going on.
    peacefulberry likes this.
    04-06-2014 09:34 AM
  17. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That is some kind of BS. I'm glad John Chen told T-Mo to shove it. BB is in no position to dictate terms but at least they're keeping their pride. MS needs to show T-Mo that there will be no wag-the-dog going on.
    Actually, MSFT is still not in a position to dictate to ANY carrier. If you look on the MSFT website on the "6 reasons to switch to Windows phone", it is clear as day - in the fine print at the bottom of the page.

    "All WP8 models support the WP8.1 update; availability varies by carrier."
    04-06-2014 09:49 AM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Actually, MSFT is still not in a position to dictate to ANY carrier. If you look on the MSFT website on the "6 reasons to switch to Windows phone", it is clear as day - in the fine print at the bottom of the page.

    "All WP8 models support the WP8.1 update; availability varies by carrier."
    That reeks of CYA. Don't blame us, blame your carrier.
    MSFTisMIA likes this.
    04-06-2014 02:14 PM
  19. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    That reeks of CYA. Don't blame us, blame your carrier.
    Actually, it is not CYA by MSFT. if you read the EOL thread in the 810 forums, we talk about this issue extensively.

    MSFT on its own has a ****ty relationship with the carriers. So it lets the OEM, in this case Nokia and HTC do the work. now if the carrier hold the OEMs by the balls - remember the carrier isn't negotiating directly with MSFT (until the Nokia sale goes through completely)- there is nothing MSFT can do. If they had any sense, they find the t-mo 8X and 810 situation embarrassing. I'm sure they found the AT&T 920 Amber update situation embarrassing too.

    We will see how much of Nokias's goodwill with the carriers translates to MSFT once the sale closes for the next round of contracts. Personally, I still expect the truly non premier partners like t-mo to **** consumers over with regard to updates if a handset doesn't sell well. And that's why I'm happy to sacrifice data speeds for updates by getting unlocked phones.
    04-06-2014 05:39 PM
  20. Eric J F's Avatar
    Out of frustration I finally got GDR3 via the developer's route. I'll do the same for 8.1 if necessary.

    If there is anyone debating getting GDR3, I can say it was easy, pretty fast, and completely problem-free.

    Here's a WPCentral article that convinced me to do it:

    http://www.windowscentral.com/how-si...iew-developers
    04-09-2014 01:25 PM
  21. George Anglin's Avatar
    I decided I didn't want to wait all eternity to get back from tmobile on this issue. So I ended up getting the preview. So far it works fine on my phone. Or at least I think it does!
    04-20-2014 08:20 AM

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