htc has a final rom as stated above MS has NOT done the official rollout through czrriers yet. At this time it looks like a week from today AT THE EARLIEST as they (MS) have said all along Fall of 2011 which starts next Friday and ens on December 20, 2011. With the Zune opdate and the WP7 USB update and more and more apps and games bein g mangofied in the last few days I strongly suspect that its going to be a lot sooner as opposed to a lot later!