I mean, we're not actually arguing that a phone with a better CPU/GPU, twice the RAM, way better speakers, an SD card slot (this alone makes me unable to buy the Icon/930), arguably better accessories (seriously, I would trade in every Nokia accessory I own for a DOT case), is thinner, lighter, and feels better in the hand is actually is actually worse than the Icon because of just the camera and the fact that Microsoft (yes, it was Microsoft who dropped the ball on the update, not HTC) neglected to properly test Update 1 on HTC hardware (which a fix is coming).
@Micah you keep strangely calling the M8 a "hand me down", but none of us understand why. It's just a phone with a different OS. The software team didn't build the phone with Android in mind, they just built it. They custom-designed a lot of their software suite specifically for WP and even added WP specific commands to their accessories. That sounds like support. What could they possibly have done to make it more "windows phoney"?
Because it is a Hand me down. The Phone originated as an Android Phone. It began there...it's almost like Samsung releasing the Galaxy for Windows. While the Ativ S line-up is similar it is still Windows Phone Esque. Nobody would look at an Ativ and get confused.
If i got a ONE M8 for windows, I don't want anyone to look at it and assume it is the Android version first. At least with Lumias you KNOW it is Windows Phone and that alone helps with word of mouth.
"I want that Yellow phone. That red. Etc etc"
Furthermore, what would have been better is if they would have evolved their 8X line-up....that would be less of a hand me down because it could be an evolution.
Whether people want to admit it or not, the device is awesome yes, but nonetheless still a hand me down from HTC. Meaning the next time the next android version comes, you'll STILL likely be behind and second class because the next version(if this device even does well) of the windows one will always be behind.
Even if they would have released it at the same time as the Android version(or at least announced it would be coming), it would've been better because it would feel less like a hand me down. At the very least throw some color into it to make it look somewhat different and made for windows phone.
People keep going on about the 800/801 cpu....really? Marginal difference and I'd hope so considering the M8 is the newer device.
Don't they have the same amount of Ram as the Icon?
I'll give you the Speaker and the SD card...though i couldn't care less about the first and I have the latter in my 1520 and it's not that big of a deal to me. But to each their own.
I held the icon and the M8(android) and i honestly prefer the build of Nokia's Icon over the m8.