12-21-2014 03:16 AM
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  1. wiggum15's Avatar
    Why does the new htc one m8 for windows not have a notification LED ?
    The Android version has one and WP8.1 Update 1 supports them as far as i know ?

    What were they thinking ?
    That was a basic feature even back in the symbian days, every landline phone has such a led today, really do they think we all look every 5 minutes on our phone ?
    I did not understand why the nokia lumia dont have them (and they screwed up completly with the 930 because that has no glance either) but now htc m8, i though its the same phone as the android version so why no notification led ?
    alextrela and James Edge like this.
    08-21-2014 04:46 AM
  2. Pete's Avatar
    WP8.1 Update 1 supports them as far as i know ?
    Did you just make that part up? I've never seen anything that indicates that Windows Phone has or will have a notification led.
    Brandon Tobias and teckris like this.
    08-21-2014 04:57 AM
  3. wiggum15's Avatar
    Chassis Requirements for WP8.1 GDR1 revealed | WMPoweruser

    Notifications:
    Vibration mechanism Required
    NLED Optional
    08-21-2014 05:26 AM
  4. Novron's Avatar
    The LED is there like the ATIV SE, notifications just haven't been linked up. I think that's a MS issue.
    Brandon Tobias likes this.
    08-21-2014 05:39 AM
  5. Pete's Avatar
    Interesting, sorry I had no idea of that feature.

    The "horses mouth" link is here (official MS page)

    https://dev.windowsphone.com/en-US/O...ements_summary
    aximtreo likes this.
    08-21-2014 05:39 AM
  6. RichardBurt's Avatar
    That was a basic feature even back in the symbian days
    Really? In all the years of having mobile phones from different manufacturers I've NEVER had an LED on them. Only ever seen an LED on Blackberry and newer Androids. Can you provide proof?

    every landline phone has such a led today
    What you meant to say was "Every landline cordless phone or basestation has and LED or LCD display. That is completely different to having an LED.

    I did not understand why the nokia lumia dont have them
    I'd be willing to bet that the majority of mobile phones models don't have a notification LED. Feel free to produce links etc that prove me wrong.
    08-21-2014 05:51 AM
  7. sylau90's Avatar
    I had an huge led back in my HTC Mozart days with WP7. I am surprised this function is missing in wp8.1
    08-21-2014 06:03 AM
  8. wiggum15's Avatar
    Yeah its a basic feature.
    It's a important feature
    It's especially important for people who use their phone for business

    What's the problem of ms and the oem's ?
    Do they think we are all 15 year old and look every 10sec on our phone ?

    Do they think it's funny to spent 600$ in a "high end" phone and still miss important calls and emails ?
    08-21-2014 05:51 PM
  9. T Moore's Avatar
    Set the audible notification alerts. Don't have to look at the phone to get notified.
    You would still have to Look at your phone for an LED alert.
    aximtreo and Sonu K like this.
    08-21-2014 06:11 PM
  10. wiggum15's Avatar
    Uh you clearly don't understand the purpose of a notification led...
    08-21-2014 06:16 PM
  11. salmanahmad's Avatar
    I have a notification led on my phone and trust me you don't know how useful it is, until you start using it.
    maevinj and alextrela like this.
    08-21-2014 06:27 PM
  12. alextrela's Avatar
    Really? In all the years of having mobile phones from different manufacturers I've NEVER had an LED on them. Only ever seen an LED on Blackberry and newer Androids. Can you provide proof?

    I'd be willing to bet that the majority of mobile phones models don't have a notification LED. Feel free to produce links etc that prove me wrong.
    Will most of the android have led notifications just galaxy from Samsung or xperia line of Sony just like most of the phone from other OEM like HTC or LG too.
    Also the android m8 has it, so wy not the wp version.
    When I first bought my first wp device the 920 I was negative surprise not having led notification and I was hoping that will eventually have that useful element on 930 but no.
    I don't really understand why since both m8 or 930 don't have glance.

    MS should fix that.
    08-21-2014 08:26 PM
  13. chmun77's Avatar
    Uh you clearly don't understand the purpose of a notification led...
    Are you saying yourself?
    08-21-2014 09:07 PM
  14. Brandon Tobias's Avatar
    Just Blame MS and call it a day ... OEM devices have it (M8, Ativ SE) another feature ms neglected to bake properly or just omit ....
    08-21-2014 09:54 PM
  15. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    The One M8 for Windows does have a notification LED. The lamp indicates if it's plugged in or charging. So it's there to be used and it was used on WP7. My Trophy had one. If the OS supports it, it will only require activating it. It may just be something they didn't activate immediately because they were focused on getting the Dot View case or the camera working properly, so a firmware update may turn it on and allow you to customize it in Settings. The One M8 has a lot of settings options the Nokia doesn't have, so it could be buried in there and not turned on automatically, but the LED light is definitely there.
    b23h likes this.
    08-21-2014 09:59 PM
  16. Brandon Tobias's Avatar
    The One M8 for Windows does have a notification LED. The lamp indicates if it's plugged in or charging. So it's there to be used and it was used on WP7. My Trophy had one. If the OS supports it, it will only require activating it. It may just be something they didn't activate immediately because they were focused on getting the Dot View case or the camera working properly, so a firmware update may turn it on and allow you to customize it in Settings. The One M8 has a lot of settings options the Nokia doesn't have, so it could be buried in there and not turned on automatically, but the LED light is definitely there.
    its there we know but i feel its an OS issue maybe your Right and a firmware update is needed but most likely it uses the same bootloader and firmware the android model uses cuz im positive it can be flashed to android and then back to windows again.. so could be a firmware issue idk
    08-21-2014 10:02 PM
  17. Bora777's Avatar
    Really? In all the years of having mobile phones from different manufacturers I've NEVER had an LED on them. Only ever seen an LED on Blackberry and newer Androids. Can you provide proof?
    Back in the '90s, Nokia and Siemens were the only major phone manufacturers that didn't have a notification LED. Although back then it was called a "service light" because it started out as a constantly blinking light to let you know you were within network coverage. It then evolved into a notification LED in the '00s once we had more things to actually be notified of. Nokia added it to some Symbian devices much later.
    08-22-2014 03:08 AM
  18. wiggum15's Avatar
    2.9: Notification
    Phone bring-up > Windows Phone 8.1 Chassis Requirements Specification > 2: Components

    July 22, 2014

    Applies to: Windows Phone hardware development

    Consistent notification will help keep the phone experience as simple to understand as possible and ensure a common Windows Phone user notification experience.
    2.9.1 NLEDs (optional)

    The phone may optionally include notification LEDs (NLEDs).
    2.9.2 Vibration

    The phone shall include a vibration mechanism such as a vibration motor, vibration speaker, or haptics transducer controllable by the Windows Phone OS.
    https://dev.windowsphone.com/en-US/O...__Notification

    Where are the notification LEDs ?!
    Can someone use twitter (i dont use it) to contact that belifor guy, seems the only way today to get a answer since a email to the support will only result in nothing...
    08-22-2014 04:28 AM
  19. mwdavis84's Avatar
    Really? In all the years of having mobile phones from different manufacturers I've NEVER had an LED on them. Only ever seen an LED on Blackberry and newer Androids. Can you provide proof?
    You're kidding, right? Notification LEDs are very common. With the exception of the original Samsung Galaxy S, every Android phone I've owned has had an LED. Here is my list:

    Android
    HTC T-Mobile G1 - Yes
    Motorola Droid - Yes (2, in fact, one for charging, one for notifications)
    HTC T-Mobile G2 - Yes
    Samsung Vibrant - No
    Samsung Galaxy S4 - Yes
    HTC One - Yes
    HTC One Mini - Yes
    Sony Z1 Compact - Yes
    Nexus 7 - Yes

    Windows Phone
    HTC Dash - Yes
    HTC HD2 - Yes
    Dell Venue Pro - No
    Samsung Focus - No
    Nokia Lumia 800 - No
    Nokia Lumia 900 - No
    Nokia Lumia 920 - No
    HTC One M8 - Yes (only charging)

    BlackBerry
    Blackberry Curve 8930 - Yes
    Blackberry Bold 9900 - Yes
    Blackberry Z10 - Yes
    Blackberry Q10 - Yes

    Palm
    Palm Pre - Yes

    Apple
    Apple iPhone - No
    Apple iPhone 3G - No

    Symbian
    Nokia N95 - Yes (I think...it's been awhile)

    This looks like one of those cases where Microsoft said "Hey! Look! Apple doesn't have one of those, and their device is really successful, so we don't need it either!" Everyone else has one, and for a reason. It's very useful. Why do you think Nokia added Glance to their devices? People like knowing if they have notifications without touching / picking up their phone.
    Brandon Tobias, wiggum15 and Etios like this.
    08-22-2014 07:43 AM
  20. maevinj's Avatar
    You're kidding, right? Notification LEDs are very common. With the exception of the original Samsung Galaxy S, every Android phone I've owned has had an LED. Here is my list:

    Android
    HTC T-Mobile G1 - Yes
    Motorola Droid - Yes (2, in fact, one for charging, one for notifications)
    HTC T-Mobile G2 - Yes
    Samsung Vibrant - No
    Samsung Galaxy S4 - Yes
    HTC One - Yes
    HTC One Mini - Yes
    Sony Z1 Compact - Yes
    Nexus 7 - Yes

    Windows Phone
    HTC Dash - Yes
    HTC HD2 - Yes
    Dell Venue Pro - No
    Samsung Focus - No
    Nokia Lumia 800 - No
    Nokia Lumia 900 - No
    Nokia Lumia 920 - No
    HTC One M8 - Yes (only charging)

    BlackBerry
    Blackberry Curve 8930 - Yes
    Blackberry Bold 9900 - Yes
    Blackberry Z10 - Yes
    Blackberry Q10 - Yes

    Palm
    Palm Pre - Yes

    Apple
    Apple iPhone - No
    Apple iPhone 3G - No

    Symbian
    Nokia N95 - Yes (I think...it's been awhile)

    This looks like one of those cases where Microsoft said "Hey! Look! Apple doesn't have one of those, and their device is really successful, so we don't need it either!" Everyone else has one, and for a reason. It's very useful. Why do you think Nokia added Glance to their devices? People like knowing if they have notifications without touching / picking up their phone.
    One thing about the iPhone is that there is a setting to use the camera flash for notifications. It's not like a true notification LED that keeps blinking, but it will go off when you receive an alert.
    Brandon Tobias likes this.
    08-22-2014 08:38 AM
  21. broughshane's Avatar
    Here something to think about ! the Lumia 925 when charging the phone from a dead battery the start home button use to flash on of as a notification for it . why they never ever used this as a notification LED always stumped me ..
    08-22-2014 02:56 PM
  22. Evangelosb's Avatar
    It is currently no 5 on uservoice feature suggestions. fingers crossed.
    I trust you have voted.
    https://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...-calls-email-s
    Great deal likes this.
    08-22-2014 03:19 PM
  23. stickyshocker's Avatar
    Ms missed out big time with not adding it to the windows logo button, I have seen loads of people saying how great it would have been to have the windows key flash different colours for different things!
    grininja likes this.
    08-22-2014 03:30 PM
  24. Lee Power's Avatar
    I've had one mobile phone with a notification led, my Sony Ericsson Arc S.

    While it was handy to have a led flashing green for text or email, blue for facebook or red for a news flash, I don't really miss this feature now I have moved to a 930.

    Notification led is more like a fad like the flashing antennas people used to screw on to there Nokia 5110's back in the day.
    08-22-2014 03:31 PM
  25. Mr Lebowski's Avatar
    Really? In all the years of having mobile phones from different manufacturers I've NEVER had an LED on them. Only ever seen an LED on Blackberry and newer Androids. Can you provide proof?



    What you meant to say was "Every landline cordless phone or basestation has and LED or LCD display. That is completely different to having an LED.



    I'd be willing to bet that the majority of mobile phones models don't have a notification LED. Feel free to produce links etc that prove me wrong.
    My Nokia classic "candy bar" 6301 from 2007 had blue flashing LED to remind me of messages and missed calls.
    08-22-2014 05:00 PM
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