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  1. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I still have a difficult time equating the Nokia name with Galaxy. It may be the face of windows phone, but at this point in time that really means very little. I also never hear about Nokia phones or cameras except for on forums. Windows phone needs more apps and more phones need to be sold regardless if they are Nokia, HTC or Samsung so more developers will bring their apps to windows phone. At this point it is very difficult in the US for any manufacturer not named Samsung or Apple, even though I don't consider either of those to make the best phone in any class except for the Note series.

    I actually think Apple makes great hardware. Unfortunately, Samsung whored itself out and it got that success. I personally think Sony or HTC should be the standard of quality for Android phones(I loved my Xperia X10 and Xperia play when i had android).

    I hear about Nokia cameras all the time. I love when people come up to me and ask
    "IS that a WIndows Phone?" Or "That pHone is Huge." or "Is that the phone from the commercial?"

    (I am like a walking advertisement since my phone is always in my hand(1520 and prior to that 1020). So i hear about it. Not to mention, I hear about it on Blogs and I see Lumias(the occcasional 8x) on tv shows i watched.

    Nokia is a common sight on MTV's Teen wolf and they are almost always using the camera :)
    Fanboyism can cloud people's judgement. I've never been brand loyal and never will be. As much as I am a WP fan now, if iOS presents itself better to me, in my opinion, then I'll head over just as fast as I ditched that OS for WP. I saw WP and just felt it was a great OS for me.
    I am actually planning to do the same myself tbh :) I love my Lumia and it'll still be with me but i am actually strongly considering a dual OS set up with IOS

    (I'll just use my Lumia as a camera lol). It's not me speaking as a fanboy, It's me speaking as someone who actually sorts of WORKS in this type of stuff.

    It's kind of my job(well one of them) to know this stuff and perception. Not to mention, I am the demographic that WIndows Phone is trying to target the most yet has a harder time doing so.
    08-31-2014 02:46 PM
  2. scottcraft's Avatar
    I actually think Apple makes great hardware. Unfortunately, Samsung whored itself out and it got that success. I personally think Sony or HTC should be the standard of quality for Android phones(I loved my Xperia X10 and Xperia play when i had android).

    I hear about Nokia cameras all the time. I love when people come up to me and ask
    "IS that a WIndows Phone?" Or "That pHone is Huge." or "Is that the phone from the commercial?"

    (I am like a walking advertisement since my phone is always in my hand(1520 and prior to that 1020). So i hear about it. Not to mention, I hear about it on Blogs and I see Lumias(the occcasional 8x) on tv shows i watched.
    I think Samsung makes pretty good hardware also, it's their software I don't care for. If you're holding a 1520 in your hand I certainly expect people to take notice because of the size. My wife gets the same reaction with her Note 2. In regards to the 8X, it definitely was a high end windows phone when it was released, but in reality it wasn't as good as the Note 2 that launched a few weeks later or the Galaxy S3 other than being really smooth.
    08-31-2014 02:58 PM
  3. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Nobody is putting your Phone choice down nor should we stay segregated to our sections. I am sorry if you can't handle a discussion with actual criticism about your device.

    i used to be a diehard Android fanatic(before i realize the OS kind of sucked) and I loved HTC devices. In fact the same reasons I buy Nokia(the camera) were the same reasons I've brought the Android Models. I had the Evo when it FIRST came out and that was one of the most talked about phones at the time(had to unfortunately subject myself and my family to the torment of Sprint. I feel there may be some resentment there from my mom :D)

    If we're talking as fans...I'd actually Prefer Lumia to be our line exclusively for Windows Phone(or maybe a Surface line). i"d prefer an apple like mentality. Simply speaking, I like what apple does with their OS. They make their OS as well as the hardware the compliments it. There is no need for fragmentation really and the hardware is fantastic and compliments the OS.

    I like the fact that they make their services the best for their products. I don't like Google and I do not like Google's methods and I wish Microsoft would set itself up as a Premium OS vs the free for all that is Android.

    That's me speaking as a fanboy....I also really wouldn't mind if it was HTC as a secondary alternative.

    However speaking as a non-fan and someone being objective, the M8 is not the device to save us all or to take the platform new places. I am sure it'll do decently and that'll do great for the platform overall. But people need to learn to accept the criticisms of their device and stop taking it to heart as if someone spit in their face or slap their kid or something lol.

    It doesn't matter how much praise the M8 has gathered, it has barely been enough to at least get HTC back in a positive direction for Android.
    Then why do you constantly come on this forum and post against the device? Your always trying to derail any discussion about them, and are constantly dissing them... It's getting really old.

    It's not about discussion with you and these phones, it's always about you not liking them and putting them down. The only thing that you do is critize the m8 every chance you get and the moderators needs to stop this.
    08-31-2014 03:01 PM
  4. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    LOL, not as dated as the 930 that just released.



    Nokia INHERITED most of the market share. When everyone else mostly jumps ship, its easy to get majority market.



    Step back, take a deep breath, and think like a consumer. It released when Android was already playing with quad cores. Consumers don't know that WP doesn't need as high end hardware, and salespeople don't educate them. A customer asks, which is faster? The salesperson points at the higher specced device, EVERY TIME. It WAS a low end device.

    You are being absolutely ridiculous with your negative nancy attitude.
    1. You're missing the point. I never said the 930 isn't dated...Spec wise the M8 and 930/Icon are both fine simply because Specs don't matter as much on WP like they do on Android(all the more reason I laugh when people go crazy because the M8 is the faster phone with a slightly higher processor. Like that REALLY matters on windows phone XD)

    I said it's features are dated. If you're going to quote me, quote the entire post. The M8 for windows is a fantastic device for WIndows Phone yes but it is dated nonetheless simply because We've already seen this device when it was just called "The All New HTC ONE M8"....for android. It is slightly worse because it then does feel like an after thought for Windows Phone.


    2. I love how people try to discredit Nokia's success in WP...let's not forget that presently WP would be dead(and HTC likely wouldn't have brought the M8(nor Samsung's rebadged galaxy turned ativ line) to WP without Nokia helping the success :D

    In that case, Samsung Profited off of Android Manufacturer's ineptitude with Android...Motorola was beating the Droid Line into the ground and then releasing half-baked devices like the Motorola Atrix(and let's not forget those horrible phones like devour and the backflip...idk what motorola was thinking. Idk what I WAS thinking buying the backflip), HTC was releasing way too many phones and unable to actually keep up and support them leaving a lot of people on dated software with no plans to ever upgrade them, Sony was struggling majorly with their Xperia X10 line, and LG was just there.....

    So samsung profited off the slowness and stupidity of the other OEMs. All the Manufactures jumped ship from Windows Phone...leaving Nokia to get the marketshare.

    First of all it didn't inherit anything :D you can't just inherit Marketshare(unless you buy into it like Microsoft has done with Nokia). They still had to earn it regardless XD And they did :D They just lacked less competition(much Like Samsung lacked much competition) and by the time the other OEMs decided to stop being fools, it became a tough battle because Samsung had become de facto.

    3. If we're thinking like a consumer...since I work with Retail/Marketing

    "Hey so I want a phone with a really good Camera. I am heavily into Instagram, Vine, Flicr and facebook. What kind of phones do you suggest?"

    More importantly, they'll look at the Specs of each phone

    "Wow this phone has a 4 megapixel camera? But this one has a 20."

    OR in favor of HTC

    "I like listening to a lot of music on my phone and i want something that sounds good when I dance but nothing apple."

    What average consumer do you know that goes in saying "I want a phone with a Quad Core processor."

    Going off your earlier logic the average person doesn't know what a Quadcore is nor do they know if their phones use the latest one or what the latest one does.
    08-31-2014 03:02 PM
  5. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Then why do you constantly come on this forum and post against the device? Your always trying to derail any discussion about them, and are constantly dissing them... It's getting really old.

    It's not about discussion with you and these phones, it's always about you not liking them and putting them down. The only thing that you do is critize the m8 every chance you get and the moderators needs to stop this.
    The moderators need to Censor people from criticizing the device?

    I wasn't derailing the thread. The question was could the M8 become the Galaxy of WIndows and I gave my opinion. I am sorry if that doesn't gell with you but you really should stop calling for Moderators to do something about people giving their opinions about a product :)
    08-31-2014 03:04 PM
  6. Adrynalyne's Avatar

    More importantly, they'll look at the Specs of each phone

    "Wow this phone has a 4 megapixel camera? But this one has a 20."
    yeah and the people I know say, "well I already have a camera so that doesn't matter to me.



    What average consumer do you know that goes in saying "I want a phone with a Quad Core processor."


    Going off your earlier logic the average person doesn't know what a Quadcore is nor do they know if their phones use the latest one or what the latest one does.

    None. They ask for whats faster and the salespeople tell them the quad core phone. I never said they ask for a quad core device or know what one is. Go read it again.

    Anyway, I am done arguing with you. You are so biased you can't see past ermagahd, the camera sucks! The phone is dated because we have seen it before in Android! (We will give Nokia a pass for the Icon/930 though!)
    08-31-2014 03:06 PM
  7. AngrySprintUser's Avatar
    1.
    "Wow this phone has a 4 megapixel camera? But this one has a 20."
    Ultra pixel, which is pretty good in my opinion having taken a few shots.

    Also, here's the issue with that scenario.

    "I want the one with the 20mp camera"

    "It's a Verizon phone"

    "Oh I'm with T-Mobile, nevermind."
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    08-31-2014 03:11 PM
  8. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Ultra pixel, which is pretty good in my opinion having taken a few shots.

    Also, here's the issue with that scenario.

    "I want the one with the 20mp camera"

    "It's a Verizon phone"

    "Oh I'm with T-Mobile, nevermind."
    So what will your excuse be then if when the 1525 is released on T-mobile

    THat's cute....except you're missing the point :)
    Even though the Icon/1520 are not available on all carriers, beside any phone, most people are automatically going to assume the higher megapixel is better. And int his case, rightfully so. I'd recommend an alternative.

    I owned a M7 briefly....I was stupid last year and used android priior to my 928 :P Ultrapixel IS good......and I sure with the Duo camera it is lovely on the M8. However, I noticed them and I am willing the best it still the same, the fact of the matter is if i take a picture and I wanna crop, someone telling me "Oh it is a good camera as long as you don't zoom/crop" is not good enough to me.

    If i was a sales person, I'd probably likely direct them towards a Sony Phone then on T-mo which also has 20 megapixels :D
    (And for Windows Phone, it'd be a 925)

    Speaking of Sony, Sony is probably one of the few manufacturers I'd actually respect coming over to the WP side and definitely more comparable imo with the Lumia Line.
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    08-31-2014 03:19 PM
  9. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    yeah and the people I know say, "well I already have a camera so that doesn't matter to me.





    None. They ask for whats faster and the salespeople tell them the quad core phone. I never said they ask for a quad core device or know what one is. Go read it again.

    Anyway, I am done arguing with you. You are so biased you can't see past ermagahd, the camera sucks! The phone is dated because we have seen it before in Android! (We will give Nokia a pass for the Icon/930 though!)
    Generally speaking, let's be real...if they ask for a fast phone they will likely push them towards ANdroid anyway and not windows phone :) We know how sales people are with Windows phone.

    if the customer insists on Windows Phone, usually the Sales person will push them towards Lumia :) I remember when I actually brought my 8x orgiinally prior to having a 920, at the time i had no clue what was better and the Sales guy said nokia was the more popular of the two and he liked it and its camera and pushed me towards it :)

    You forget we live in 2014 nowadays and now the early 2000s or late 1990s. People don't just walk around at parties with two cameras anymore. When you go to concerts, it is mostly cellphones you see in the air recording and taking pics.

    So No Most people aren't going to say "eh, I already have a camera"...they're going to be looking for the best camera to get them on IG, Vine, and FB faster and easier :)
    08-31-2014 03:26 PM
  10. AngrySprintUser's Avatar
    So what will your excuse be then if when the 1525 is released on T-mobile

    THat's cute....except you're missing the point :)
    Even though the Icon/1520 are not available on all carriers, beside any phone, most people are automatically going to assume the higher megapixel is better. And int his case, rightfully so. I'd recommend an alternative.

    I owned a M7 briefly....I was stupid last year and used android priior to my 928 :P Ultrapixel IS good......and I sure with the Duo camera it is lovely on the M8. However, I noticed them and I am willing the best it still the same, the fact of the matter is if i take a picture and I wanna crop, someone telling me "Oh it is a good camera as long as you don't zoom/crop" is not good enough to me.

    If i was a sales person, I'd probably likely direct them towards a Sony Phone then on T-mo which also has 20 megapixels :D
    (And for Windows Phone, it'd be a 925)

    Speaking of Sony, Sony is probably one of the few manufacturers I'd actually respect coming over to the WP side and definitely more comparable imo with the Lumia Line.
    I'm not really sure what you mean as far as me making excuses. You said what if, which means it's not possible at this moment. The M8 will be available to most carriers as the Lumias are not, they are exclusive. Their audience is limited. There is no Lumia phone that's the face of WP.

    Look we are not trying to discuss the specs of this phone vs phone X. The bottom line is, they release another Lumia, with great specs and even better camera, it will be to a very limited audience because of the exclusives. People will not generally switch carriers for a phone. The M8, which has so far gotten very good reviews, and the camera is not the deal breaker, will be available to most of the carriers. With that being said, IF this phone sells well, IF, and HTC starts releasing them to all carriers, then could this phone possibly be the "Galaxy" of the WP line? As mentioned, Lumia does not have that phone yet. If the 1525 is released will it go to one carrier or all?
    08-31-2014 03:29 PM
  11. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I think Samsung makes pretty good hardware also, it's their software I don't care for. If you're holding a 1520 in your hand I certainly expect people to take notice because of the size. My wife gets the same reaction with her Note 2. In regards to the 8X, it definitely was a high end windows phone when it was released, but in reality it wasn't as good as the Note 2 that launched a few weeks later or the Galaxy S3 other than being really smooth.
    Why exactly are we comparing it to the Note 2 though :P They server 2 different niches though.

    I usually get noticed for the size of it(lol) but it always makes me feel good to hear someone say "Is that a Windows Phone?"

    I always get someone asking to hold it and are going "Wow! That phone is huge."
    Even the valet at the restaurant I had take a picture of me of the other day for my birthday was like "Wow, this phone is crazy!"

    But it shocked me when the waitress actually recognized it as a Windows Phone. I was like "GIRL! You just earned yourself a few more dollars for being cool like us WP kids."(i didnt really say that :P)

    I dont think Samsung's hardware is good. It feels Cheap. HTC hands down is better made than Samsung's Mess. Even before WIndows Phone, i had a Few galaxies and the hardware just feels cheap. It doesn't feel like a premium product.

    For Android I'd go
    Sony > HTC > Motorola > LG > Samsung

    For windows Phone
    Nokia > HTC > Samsung

    Ironically enough if i did switch to Android, I'd probably actually get an M8. But probably a Sony.
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    08-31-2014 03:32 PM
  12. scottcraft's Avatar
    Well this thread has gone in the exact same path as the "I love my Icon but" thread. I guess it's time to unsubscribe from this one.
    08-31-2014 03:34 PM
  13. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    The moderators need to Censor people from criticizing the device?

    I wasn't derailing the thread. The question was could the M8 become the Galaxy of WIndows and I gave my opinion. I am sorry if that doesn't gell with you but you really should stop calling for Moderators to do something about people giving their opinions about a product :)
    If it's just a once or twice occurrence then no,but with you it's not just a once or twice occurrence,it's on every thread about this phone your posting on.

    You are constantly posting negative things when uncalled for,and going further than just giving an opinion.

    You think you have some type of right to constantly try to derail threads or get an argument started under the guise of stating an opinion and you don't.

    Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
    08-31-2014 03:42 PM
  14. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Well this thread has gone in the exact same path as the "I love my Icon but" thread. I guess it's time to unsubscribe from this one.
    It's a shame too...

    Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
    08-31-2014 03:43 PM
  15. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    Ironically enough if i did switch to Android, I'd probably actually get an M8. But probably a Sony.

    This guy....smh...he can't even keep up with the stuff he is saying.
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    08-31-2014 03:47 PM
  16. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I'm not really sure what you mean as far as me making excuses. You said what if, which means it's not possible at this moment. The M8 will be available to most carriers as the Lumias are not, they are exclusive. Their audience is limited. There is no Lumia phone that's the face of WP.

    Look we are not trying to discuss the specs of this phone vs phone X. The bottom line is, they release another Lumia, with great specs and even better camera, it will be to a very limited audience because of the exclusives. People will not generally switch carriers for a phone. The M8, which has so far gotten very good reviews, and the camera is not the deal breaker, will be available to most of the carriers. With that being said, IF this phone sells well, IF, and HTC starts releasing them to all carriers, then could this phone possibly be the "Galaxy" of the WP line? As mentioned, Lumia does not have that phone yet. If the 1525 is released will it go to one carrier or all?
    And Presently speaking, the M8 is also an exclusive as well. So the argument doesn't make sense. Yes it is coming to other carriers eventually but as it stands, it too is an exclusive.

    if the rumors pan out, the New Nokia Phones may have a larger release.

    I still say that the Lumia 1020 is the face of WIndows Phone just because of the fact of the matter of those commercials. It was the phone I had at the time when those commercials came out(Microsoft REALLY needs another one of those) and that is how people were able to recognize my device. The fact of the matter is, this is not the first time HTC has released a phone on multiple carriers(8x) and still on one Carrier, Nokia outsold them.

    Technically speaking Nokia has at least released Variants on most carriers at the same time(The 810, 820, 822) all were released around the same time when Windows Phone 8 initially launched. It's not exactly the same thing but it isn't like Nokia has not at least attempted to release them around the same time.

    I look at Exclusives as the good thing because it gets the carrier involved. At&t has done some great marketing with Windows Phone. Verizon also as well with the 928. Exclusives have their plusses as well as their minuses.

    The M8 also got great reviews as android and we see that really hasn't helped it that much. In fact many called it the best Android to date, better than Samsung's GS5.......and look at it now. Perhaps it'll be better on WP since Microsoft is throwing HTC a bone by Side-lining high end lumias(It'll look bad if HTC is on all carriers and a high end lumia exclusive outsells...again). The camera is also a con in most reviews i've read(where they compare it to Lumia as well).

    Personally Imo

    Gen 1(2012)- The Lumia 920 became the Face of Windows Phone.

    This is Globally...not just US. You're speaking from a US perspective where there is exclusives. Globally speaking, the 920 was the face of Windows Phone.

    Gen 2....I'd say that was 1020....the phone everyone was talking about and comparing others too. Certainly the most talked about device last summer and into the fall.

    Gen 2.5 became the 520/521 aka the best selling Windows Phone world wide.

    Now in Gen 3...things are slightly trickier.
    While the Icon/930 is available globally ....it is not as well-received and I have a feeling the 630 line-up maybe become the new face.


    You're speaking of ONE Phone......I'm speaking of ONE LINE.
    The Lumia Line. Samsung is more than just the Galaxy S series and note series, just Lumia is more than just the 1020 and 1520.
    Collectively speaking, yes both Lines are the dominant forces. Samsung's Galaxy S5 is a best seller yes but it is also their variants and low/mid range(which aren't available elsewhere) plus their Note line that collectively make their line/brand the face of Android.

    It's not any one phone....you can't take just one aspect of their portfolio because it would weaken them. Collectively all of Samsung's various products make the GALAXY LINE the face of Android just like collectively together Nokia's lumia line make it the face of Windows phone.
    08-31-2014 03:47 PM
  17. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    This guy....smh...he can't even keep up with the stuff he is saying.
    I can keep up with it well.

    I'd probably get the M8 simply because I am a Selfie addict and it is great at that.
    Of course the back camera apparently is worse on Android, so i'd wind up getting a Sony potentially :)

    If it's just a once or twice occurrence then no,but with you it's not just a once or twice occurrence,it's on every thread about this phone your posting on.

    You are constantly posting negative things when uncalled for,and going further than just giving an opinion.

    You think you have some type of right to constantly try to derail threads or get an argument started under the guise of stating an opinion and you don't.

    Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
    I am not starting an argument though. I am giving my thoughts on it.
    If people wish to defend their phone choice, then that is fine but dont put this on me because I gave my opinion about a product that you chose or will choose or are considering to buy for yourself. If people would stop being so defensive and actually have a mature discussion/debate the topic wouldn't get so heated.

    but the moment someone criticizes and calls the product out for its weakness, people get defensive. Chill out and discuss it maturely or not at all. I shouldn't have to stick to my forums and I shouldn't have to censor my opinions of a product when i am not attacking anyone(or anything). People say we should embrace and welcome all WP OEM. We should also embrace and welcome all WP OEM criticisms as well.

    (This is just like the people who get upset when you say the ATIV line feels cheap or looks ugly. I don't get upset or annoyed or frustrated when someone calls my phone ugly or whatever).
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    08-31-2014 03:52 PM
  18. AngrySprintUser's Avatar
    It's a shame too...

    Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
    Yeah well this sucks, but I'm not going to respond anymore
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    08-31-2014 03:54 PM
  19. snowmutt's Avatar
    Ah yes, how boring would things get without Micah to stir it up a little??

    First off, yes this did go on a little bit of a side track, but so far I see what is being discussed as a related topic. The original question is a good one: In the best case scenario, could HTC strike WP gold right now by releasing the ONE for Windows (I hate that name. Forgive me) on all carriers? Micah took the negative. Hey, if you don't want the answer, don't ask the question. I have read through all the responses, and there is nothing being said that is personal or insulting, so I see nothing wrong with the posts. Agree or not, it is an opinion. I think those agreeing with the OP have done a fantastic job of keeping Micah honest. No blood, no foul.
    08-31-2014 05:21 PM
  20. snowmutt's Avatar
    Now on topic, yes I think HTC has the best chance in a long time to get out a device which could overtake the Lumia for WP "name recognition". I see a MS right now without a flagship on all carriers, and an excellent HTC device that is a great hardware option running an OS that just LOOKS great on it. How can HTC make this happen?

    -Get the Windows ONE on all four carriers prior to the fall/holiday buying season (looks like that box is checked).
    -Get carriers to put it right next to the HTC Android ONE and get them to include it on some commercials. Verizon has done this, I am sure T-Mobile won't mind and AT&T has been good about keeping WP devices front and center. Sprint?? Well, let us not expect miracles.
    -HTC needs to get behind it themselves. They need to increase their Store Hub (it is really small compared to Samsung and Nokia/MS), and promote their product. They need to realize and believe that this is a market that can and will increase.

    The last is the problem. Did HTC promote any of their WPs? The 8X? The Titan series? The Arrive? The Trophy?

    I would like to believe in them, I LOVE their hardware. But so far, my experiences with them is that they do not push or support their products well. Nokia has. Heck, Samsung has support their WPs better with firmware and an increased WP app hub count.

    That is why I sit here thinking simply put: Nope, HTC ONE for Windows won't be the Galaxy for WP. Not because they can't be or even shouldn't be, simply because they don't want to be.
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    08-31-2014 05:33 PM
  21. Visa Declined's Avatar
    The fact of the matter is that this device is the best Windows Phone you can buy. It's gorgeous, and it has all of the latest specs people are clambering for. I love the IR blaster and the Dot View case, and the 1080p screen is just the perfect size. Listening to the BoomSound speakers blare while the phone is in landscape mode playing a game is unlike any mobile phone I've ever experienced.

    If you own this phone, I applaud you. You've got the best Windows Phone on the face of the planet. The only reason why anyone would come to this subforum and say something negative about this device would be because they are jealous that they can't have one.
    08-31-2014 06:17 PM
  22. z33dev33l's Avatar
    The fact of the matter is that this device is the best Windows Phone you can buy. It's gorgeous, and it has all of the latest specs people are clambering for. I love the IR blaster and the Dot View case, and the 1080p screen is just the perfect size. Listening to the BoomSound speakers blare while the phone is in landscape mode playing a game is unlike any mobile phone I've ever experienced.

    If you own this phone, I applaud you. You've got the best Windows Phone on the face of the planet. The only reason why anyone would come to this subforum and say something negative about this device would be because they are jealous that they can't have one.
    Wow, someone is annoying hard. I have a windows phone with a very usable camera, great screen size, material that doesn't get scratched because I looked at it wrong and most importantly, a plethora of OEM apps that enhance windows phone tenfold. Here's a hint, the m8 doesn't tickle any of those points for me
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    08-31-2014 06:35 PM
  23. z33dev33l's Avatar
    That was supposed to say fanboying but I suppose it works regardless.
    08-31-2014 06:38 PM
  24. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    I have a very usable camera, great screen size, and my phone has YET to scratch.

    So I guess you have accessories on me...grats? I don't use accessories.
    08-31-2014 06:39 PM
  25. Visa Declined's Avatar
    Wow, someone is annoying hard. I have a windows phone with a very usable camera, great screen size, material that doesn't get scratched because I looked at it wrong and most importantly, a plethora of OEM apps that enhance windows phone tenfold. Here's a hint, the m8 doesn't tickle any of those points for me
    I'm happy for you
    08-31-2014 06:45 PM
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