09-03-2014 11:45 PM
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  1. scottcraft's Avatar
    Icon duh :)
    It's the best Overall smartphone...the M8 is nice as well but while there are some good stand-out features in the M8, the Icon is the better phone overall. Plus the Camera is fantastic :)

    (though if i were you idk who you are with but i' dislike verizon lol....)
    But yeah Icon most definitely over the M8.

    I'd also recommend the Ativ SE over the M8. A lot of people are Bullish over HTC's support and while they may support the M8 well, they could also continue to not really fully support the device(they definitely dropped the ball with their previous devices).

    A big plus is the Lumia comes from Nokia/Microsoft so it is definitely a larger priority not to mention the software enhancements that Lumia has that extends the OS even more that other Phones do not get. That Nokia Support is great :)
    Saying the Icon is the better overall phone is just an opinion. A more accurate statement would be the Icon is best for your needs. Both phones have strengths and weaknesses and hands on time in the store is the best way to decide which you prefer.
    09-01-2014 02:05 PM
  2. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    You know some folks keep harping about HTC reliability of supporting its devices as a legitimate reason to stay away from this phone,but if this was really a legit reason then so would saying that Microsoft itself was guilty of the same thing with its os from all those who bought a Windows7 phone or a 6.0 phones...but the truth is the hardware on this phone is top of the line and won't be left behind for the conceivable future..and HTC has been good on getting updates out and upgrading the phone with a promise of having it available within 90 days of release from the makers....so this isn't really a legit concern anymore..but some type of grudge against HTC....and they're well aware of this.

    I would be more worried about the way Verizon's practices of delaying updates for their own devices than of HTC m8..especially now that they are putting many of their updates on the play store now...

    I have the Android version of this phone and absolutely love it and know that the WP version will fly beautifully on it.

    Personally I would much rather have a phone that excels as a phone,than as a camera with removable storage for my music collection and video games,not to mention offline maps storage space than to be limited to just the internal storage space...to me this is hamstringing it.

    There's very good reasons this phone has been given great reviews even with the camera it has.....

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    09-01-2014 04:52 PM
  3. snowmutt's Avatar
    Having not used the M8 for WP yet and only the M8 for Android, I can only give you half an answer, but seeings how I like to pretend I know more then I do, I am all over it...

    From what I can gather from your posts, camera performance is not remotely high on your lists. I understand this. For me, I have never changed a single setting except my flash. The only thing i care about is shutter speed, and I never figure that out until I have the thing in my hand. So, why waste your time?

    Support: I can honestly say I have had nothing but disappointment and heartache from HTC in this area. I will spare you all my tales of woe, and just say be sure you love the performance of the M8 now. Do not buy it with hopes of improvements. Yes, Verizon is like every other carrier- spotty at best with approved updates. At worst, they hold things up and you will never get them. I do believe the Icon will get better support and more updates based on Nokia/MS past performance.

    However, I also feel you just plain like the HTC better from your posts. It is a sexy phone, beyond excellent audio (something I will not comprimise on with my next purchase), and the screen tech is bright enough to burn your retinas. That is a good thing.

    You will not go wrong or regret the Icon, which I would most likely choose. It has a vibrant screen, it handles all commands and tools/apps seamlessly, and there have been only very small complaints about it. It has been around long enough if it was going to give a huge set of problems we would know. But I think the HTC is a winner and the ONE series is HTC's best device line since the EVO series. The old 8X has recieved a ton of fan mail on these forums. Again, not a ton of support, but users like it.

    I, along with a few others, think the ATIV SE is the most underated WP in the history of the OS. But you are not interested, so I saythat based on where you posted this if you like the performance of the M8, jump on in. If you have ANY doubts, grab the Icon.
    09-01-2014 05:13 PM
  4. scottcraft's Avatar
    That's a great post snowmutt!
    09-01-2014 05:20 PM
  5. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Saying the Icon is the better overall phone is just an opinion. A more accurate statement would be the Icon is best for your needs. Both phones have strengths and weaknesses and hands on time in the store is the best way to decide which you prefer.
    It is an opinion yes but it also has fact with it.....You do not have to debate every opinion I make :)

    Fact is that Nokia has proven to be more reliable with their Lumia line that HTC has with their WIndows Phones.....I don't blame just HTC. Verizon and Microsoft have their faults as well.

    but I also look at what HTC has done(Aka nothing) over the last 4 years......I also look at the fact that while they do have great features, the phone is your basic windows phone. Yes it has great speakers, IR blaster, SD card support....But With Lumia and the AMber, Black, Cyan updates(not to mention at the time Nokia apps), the software has been extended to be a bit more than just the average windows Phone.

    I am not here to debate YET again with M8 owners the same redundant argument. I get it you love your phone....The OP asked for opinions and I gave mine.

    Deal with it.
    I'd recommend the Nokia Icon as the overall better Windows phone with the Ativ SE(god when did i start pushing Samsung) as a second up. AS said above, if there is any doubt about reliability or support with HTC(which is warranted look at their history with Windows Phone 7 and Windows phone 8), then Nokia at least has proven to be far more reliable.

    Fact....No need to debate. Just accept my opinion is different from yours and keep it moving :)
    09-01-2014 08:11 PM
  6. Ruined's Avatar
    Icon and wireless charging pad
    09-01-2014 08:18 PM
  7. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I didn't say it. You did.
    Sarcasm :) I said that since people had such a problem with Non-HTC owners criticizing the device.

    I think that would be a stupid rule and censoring users :P

    ANYWAY moving along from you and your habit of quoting me to just debate for whatever reason.....

    I went to my Local Verizon Store with the boyfriend to get some Accessories and what not, I was actually quite pleased to see some great displays for both the Icon and M8.

    The sales guy saw me playing with the M8 and asked was I jumping ship.
    I Of course replied back "For an M8? Of course not, don't be ridiculous. But possibly the new iPhone."

    We're quite familiar since I used to go in their plenty when I got my 8x and later 928 and then my boyfriend's M8 that he returned for an icon.

    I asked him how things were going with the M8. He said for the time being they do sell more Icons but a few people actually have been looking at the Android Version initially only to actually like the Look/Feel of the UI of the Windows Phone Version and have chosen it over the Android version. I t hought it was pretty cool to hear that the phone is actually being chosen over his fraternal twin.

    Side-Note: The Poor Ativ SE was off in the corner by itself, lol. I really forgot all about it until i happened to actively look for it. Samsung really does need to bring a GREAT(not just Good) windows phone to the Platform as I do actually like the features(and even touchwiz) on their Android devices more so than the M8, i just hate Samsung hardware(cheap) and their sense of copying everyone it seems.

    Apparently that phone is not doing to well and they don't actually carry the SE in store. But good to hear that the Icon(of course) and M8 are doing good saleswise(at least at my store).
    09-01-2014 08:37 PM
  8. mmmuffin's Avatar
    I went in to Verizon last week to buy the M8, ended up leaving with the Icon because of its gorgeousness! Can't put it down! My husband did get the M8 and is overall happy with it so far.
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    09-01-2014 08:38 PM
  9. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I went in to Verizon last week to buy the M8, ended up leaving with the Icon because of its gorgeousness! Can't put it down! My husband did get the M8 and is overall happy with it so far.
    It really is the best looking Lumia :) I am jealous of my boyfriend as he has what i think is presently the best looking wp device to date(icon) Glad u enjoy yours :)
    09-01-2014 08:45 PM
  10. Jason Stemm's Avatar
    I can say this because I have actually had both phones. Though my m8 was the android version, I can tell you a few things.
    1) build quality on both phones are amazing.
    2) sound is good on m8, but not as loud as advertised.
    3) HTC has a bad history with WP, I had the 8xt...it was cool at first, but turned out to be a waste of a device. Htc doesn't support WP like Nokia does and will.
    4) the Nokia icon's screen is the best of any phone I have owned. Video looks amazing.
    5) camera is all Nokia, m8 is not very good at all. Nokia has more features and editing tools that are relevant to everyday use.

    Apps advantage goes to Nokia.

    I was faced with the same issue as you, and I switched to Verizon to get the Lumia icon. I don't regret it.
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    09-01-2014 08:49 PM
  11. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    It really is the best looking Lumia :) I am jealous of my boyfriend as he has what i think is presently the best looking wp device to date(icon) Glad u enjoy yours :)
    It really is a great looking device! I came so close to getting it too when it first came out. Now I'll wait to see what the 830 looks like.
    09-01-2014 08:51 PM
  12. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    It really is a great looking device! I came so close to getting it too when it first came out. Now I'll wait to see what the 830 looks like.
    Idk if i can downgrade to the 830.....I do want a New Lumia(still annoyed we have to wait possibly to 2015 for a High End Lumia) from a 1520...But if it
    1. Has a 5 inch screen similar to the Icon
    2. 5 megapixel camera FF like the 730/M8

    I just might :)

    Right now it is looking like I may be getting the 830 or Iphone 6 so the next week or so is a busy time for me :D
    09-01-2014 08:58 PM
  13. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Having not used the M8 for WP yet and only the M8 for Android, I can only give you half an answer, but seeings how I like to pretend I know more then I do, I am all over it...

    From what I can gather from your posts, camera performance is not remotely high on your lists. I understand this. For me, I have never changed a single setting except my flash. The only thing i care about is shutter speed, and I never figure that out until I have the thing in my hand. So, why waste your time?

    Support: I can honestly say I have had nothing but disappointment and heartache from HTC in this area. I will spare you all my tales of woe, and just say be sure you love the performance of the M8 now. Do not buy it with hopes of improvements. Yes, Verizon is like every other carrier- spotty at best with approved updates. At worst, they hold things up and you will never get them. I do believe the Icon will get better support and more updates based on Nokia/MS past performance.

    However, I also feel you just plain like the HTC better from your posts. It is a sexy phone, beyond excellent audio (something I will not comprimise on with my next purchase), and the screen tech is bright enough to burn your retinas. That is a good thing.

    You will not go wrong or regret the Icon, which I would most likely choose. It has a vibrant screen, it handles all commands and tools/apps seamlessly, and there have been only very small complaints about it. It has been around long enough if it was going to give a huge set of problems we would know. But I think the HTC is a winner and the ONE series is HTC's best device line since the EVO series. The old 8X has recieved a ton of fan mail on these forums. Again, not a ton of support, but users like it.

    I, along with a few others, think the ATIV SE is the most underated WP in the history of the OS. But you are not interested, so I saythat based on where you posted this if you like the performance of the M8, jump on in. If you have ANY doubts, grab the Icon.
    Ok, who are you and what have you done with 'Mutt?

    Sent from my LG Intuition using Tapatalk
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    09-01-2014 09:40 PM
  14. csiguy1's Avatar
    I own both and either one is fantastic.
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    09-01-2014 10:01 PM
  15. Blu3V3nom07's Avatar
    I would say the Lumia 1525 that's coming out on Verizon later.
    09-01-2014 10:03 PM
  16. jomarr's Avatar
    Icon:
    Camera
    Wireless Charging

    M8:
    Micro SD card slot
    Slightly better processor

    It depends on your needs, if you need a great camera, the Icon is the way to go.. If storage is your LIFE (like me) go and get that M8!

    Side by side, both are on par but two of the most sought out features of a phone is exclusive to one.. M8 with the external storage, 930 with the great cam.

    But if I'm in the situation, M8 no doubt. I got the 1520 so I have the best of both worlds.
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    09-01-2014 10:29 PM
  17. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    Icon:
    Camera
    Wireless Charging

    M8:
    Micro SD card slot
    Slightly better processor

    It depends on your needs, if you need a great camera, the Icon is the way to go.. If storage is your LIFE (like me) go and get that M8!

    Side by side, both are on par but two of the most sought out features of a phone is exclusive to one.. M8 with the external storage, 930 with the great cam.

    But if I'm in the situation, M8 no doubt. I got the 1520 so I have the best of both worlds.
    Better GPU and memory bandwidth too,along with battery enhancement.

    When it boils down to it, that may not matter. But then in the battery thread a member said the M8 outlasted where the icon couldn't. It might make a bigger difference when WP 9 releases.
    09-01-2014 10:36 PM
  18. tbolt76's Avatar
    I had an Icon and have an HTC One.
    I miss on the Icon the camera and wireless charging.
    I prefer on the HTC One the dual external speakers, expandable storage and slimmer profile.
    If you take a lot of pictures and like tinkering with the final image especially cropping and zooming, the Icon is what you want.
    If you need or want more than 32GB of storage and make use of external speakers (I do on the countless conference calls I have to endure) I would recommend the HTC One.
    Either way, you are getting a great phone.
    09-01-2014 11:34 PM
  19. osumorris2315's Avatar
    Had a icon returned it for a HTC one m8. I would say the one just feels better in my hand. Advantages are the ir remote senor, great speakers, dot view case, micro SD, wifi direct. If you dont need a "great" camera then id go with the one.
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    09-01-2014 11:38 PM
  20. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    [WARN]Let's keep this thread on topic and discuss the devices, not each other!

    This is a good thread, and I don't want to close it due to it going off topic.[/WARN]
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    09-01-2014 11:43 PM
  21. DalekSnare's Avatar
    There was this HTC vs. Nokia debate a couple years ago, and in terms of updates and software support, the Lumia 920 is doing better right now with 8X people unable to get GDR 1 right now (from what I read in the 8X forums). And over the life of the phones, the 920 kept getting more and more features that the 8X never did (although I'll admit, with the dot case HTC turned the tables on glance this generation, since Nokia dropped the ball big time in that respect with the Icon). Going forward, I expect Nokia to put more effort into improving and updating the Icon than HTC does with the One.
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    09-02-2014 12:32 AM
  22. Noremacam's Avatar
    If you regularly listen to music on your speakers, do the m8. Once you don't have to cup your hand around the back to hear videos/music, you'll never want to again. If photography is most important, go with the Icon.
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    09-02-2014 07:07 AM
  23. berty6294's Avatar
    There's 4 things that make me want the M8. Dot View Case, Beats Audio (the 8x was the most enjoyable device I have ever listened to music on and I miss it), Better Battery Life, and SD Card Support. That being said, some things I don't know if I could live without on my Icon is QI Wireless Charging, Camera, Screen, and Sex Appeal ;) The choice is difficult.
    09-02-2014 07:19 AM
  24. etphoto's Avatar
    I had an Icon and have an HTC One.
    I miss on the Icon the camera and wireless charging.
    I prefer on the HTC One the dual external speakers, expandable storage and slimmer profile.
    If you take a lot of pictures and like tinkering with the final image especially cropping and zooming, the Icon is what you want.
    If you need or want more than 32GB of storage and make use of external speakers (I do on the countless conference calls I have to endure) I would recommend the HTC One.
    Either way, you are getting a great phone.

    Why are a lot of people forgetting the longer battery life when pointing out the M8's advantages? lol I'm charging my phone every two days now.
    09-02-2014 07:31 AM
  25. jomarr's Avatar
    Better GPU and memory bandwidth too,along with battery enhancement.

    When it boils down to it, that may not matter. But then in the battery thread a member said the M8 outlasted where the icon couldn't. It might make a bigger difference when WP 9 releases.
    Yup! That's why I'm leaning more to the M8. I think it suits me better! I really don't need a 20MP camera but then again I have the 1520 so hey might as well practice my non existent photography skills! Hehehe

    Anyways, OP.. This is a tough call so I think it's best for you to research a bit on both devices then compare it side by side. I honestly like the look of the Icon more than the M8 but the M8 has that SD Card Slow which is more important for me than the 'look' of the phone. Also the M8 is gorgeous but I really prefer the Lumia design.

    Choice is yours. Get back on us when you made the decision!
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    09-02-2014 07:33 AM
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