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11-12-2014 08:22 PM
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  1. WP7Nettwerk's Avatar
    I was iPhone user long time ago. I went to WP since first release. I'm happy with it. App gap is big but it goes less, less. For me what I need it works. EMail, Office, Lync, BBM. And I still love WP UI. It just work smooth, fluent, fast. My family use WP. And no prob. Same problem in UK not very well sell WP.
    11-06-2014 10:08 AM
  2. pursuit2550's Avatar
    I will miss using WP but I have to leave. There are just somethings that I like better on Android/Apple than Wp doesnt have for me. Almost everything I use is just so much better on Android/Apple. Maybe some day WP will catch up to them or surpass them, but I dont see that happening anytime soon. I also think this is why VZW or other carriers dont push WP.
    11-06-2014 10:10 AM
  3. Al4video's Avatar
    I have had all 3 OS's. Who ever says WP, Android or Apple is hard to use then you have no business owning a smartphone. Lest take a look at it as a phone first. They all have a icon with a phone in it, thats what you use to make calls. Press it, dial the number and send. Seems simple to me, right. Next you have a icon for messaging. It will have a picture of a cloud/bubble, what ever you want to call it. Press it and text something to someone, Also pretty simple to me. Next you have internet. Now WP is a pic of circle "E", android chrome is a circle with different colors, apple says safari. Now if you own a smartphone I am sure you know which icon will be the internet. Press it and the web opens. Type a address and it takes you to it. Once again pretty simple. Now these are your common features of a smartphone and what is mostly used, at least by me.

    Now, lets take a look at the apps, which is why most, if not all people by a smartphone. No matter what OS you have , you will have a app store and I am sure it not had to find the icon for it. Now once you download a app, I am also sure that you know what the icon for that app looks like right, perfect. Open the newly downloaded app and use it. Kinda simple if you as me, on any OS so far. And I will say that this goes for all apps, mail, FB, Youtube, Twitter, etc. They are all apps, coming from the app store. They will have a pic for you to recognize it.

    Next is the OS/Phone settings. Now this is where things become a little more difficult. Like I said I have owned all 3, so with that said this what I think. WP 8.0 on my 928 and Icon was pretty simple to find stuff. I have the M8 on 8.1 and the settings have become more difficult and has more user setting than before. Which is expected because 8.1 has more features. still none the less it becoming more difficult to find stuff. Apple was the 2nd easiest. My 4s and 5 had what seem to be the same settings. I would venture to say that its pretty close to WP 8.1 if not even as far as finding a specific setting. Android was the hardest for me. But its expected because it is so feature packed that there is a setting for everyone. I always had a hard time finding some setting. Found myself Google-ing it sometime. Now if you are just a no nonsense smartphone person that just want a smartphone for phone calls, text, couple of apps and a camera, then WP and Apple are for you. If you like all that and are always changing setting or trying some new feature out, etc, then I think Android is for you. Its not to say WP or Apple are lame or something is this department, but if you just set your phone once out of the box then they are easier by far than Android.
    These is what I think of people who say one is easier to use than the other. Your ignorant or you should have a smartphone. Its a phone with icons. You press the icon and it opens up. How hard is that? Also if its not on you home page you scroll to the side till you find it. Pretty damm simple if you ask me.
    Dude you can't see the forest for the trees.
    My friend just bought a iphone 6plus and he is coming from an iphone 5s. He found it difficult. As a matter of fact Apple is offering classes to learn how to use it.

    Personally I never met an OS on a phone or a computer I couldn't master in 5 minutes. So while Ios interface may be easy for some, just like windows it just stumps other people.
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    11-06-2014 10:16 AM
  4. oviedofreak82's Avatar
    Instead of making all store employees learn about the Windows Phone UI, train one employees as the go-to expert if a customer inquires about it. If I was a sales manager, I would want to increase sales all across the board and move my inventory. You lose money with products that don't sell, incentive or not. Also, give your employees a bonus for selling a Windows Phone and a customer keeps it for more than 14 days.
    11-06-2014 10:26 AM
  5. pursuit2550's Avatar
    Dude you can't see the forest for the trees.
    My friend just bought a iphone 6plus and he is coming from an iphone 5s. He found it difficult. As a matter of fact Apple is offering classes to learn how to use it.

    Personally I never met an OS on a phone or a computer I couldn't master in 5 minutes. So while Ios interface may be easy for some, just like windows it just stumps other people.
    That is why I wrote what I did, separated into parts. The phone part of them selves are pretty explanatory. It still a phone first and foremost. Now if you having a difficult time finding some settings or setting up the phone then thats where people will say that a certain OS is hard to use. I havent used a Iphone 6 so i dont know how much the settings have changed. But they did pack in alot of new features into ios8 so maybe thats why.
    11-06-2014 10:29 AM
  6. pursuit2550's Avatar
    Instead of making all store employees learn about the Windows Phone UI, train one employees as the go-to expert if a customer inquires about it. If I was a sales manager, I would want to increase sales all across the board and move my inventory. You lose money with products that don't sell, incentive or not. Also, give your employees a bonus for selling a Windows Phone and a customer keeps it for more than 14 days.
    The training part I agree with, not the incentive part. The incentive part or better yet initiative part should come from MS. They need to step up their game. I dont think its a lack of untrained carrier employees, it a lack of OS features with WP.
    11-06-2014 10:33 AM
  7. dby2011's Avatar
    Windows Phone is an easy sell to anyone over 50. It's light years ahead of any feature phone and those providing it has Facebook and Skype for the grandkids they're happy. They also feel safe with Windows.
    I agree with that- got one for my father because I can make huge tiles for the phone , messaging and sport scores lol. I will say he has asked about a few apps and Windows doesn't have them of course. Got a new car that has the ability to remote start and other things and of course Chrysler doesn't have a Windows app for it. I can see that being an isssue that Verizon doesnt want to deal with- someone getting a WP and then taking it home only to find some apps their friends have are not on it then coming back to the store complaining.
    11-06-2014 10:44 AM
  8. troylytle's Avatar
    In my company, I make more money on a windows phone than an iPhone or LG phones. One again though, we only carry Nokia windows phones. No Samsung or HTC.
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    11-06-2014 10:46 AM
  9. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    Then your VZ manager friend isn't a very good manager. Education to the customer before and during the selling process would trim down on returns.
    I thought the UI was easy enough to figure out on their own? All I see is people lauding how EASY it is. Something that is allegedly so easy for everyone should not need education before and during.

    Maybe my friend should deny returns. Would that make him a better manager? You target my friend, but its like this everywhere.
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    11-06-2014 10:55 AM
  10. Harry Wild's Avatar
    When ever a new model is released in a Verizon store; nobody knows about it! They all play dumb. If you insist; they comeback with it from their store room. Then they tell you that the Samsung S* is a much better phone etc....
    11-06-2014 11:05 AM
  11. realwarder's Avatar
    I agree with that- got one for my father because I can make huge tiles for the phone , messaging and sport scores lol. I will say he has asked about a few apps and Windows doesn't have them of course. Got a new car that has the ability to remote start and other things and of course Chrysler doesn't have a Windows app for it. I can see that being an isssue that Verizon doesnt want to deal with- someone getting a WP and then taking it home only to find some apps their friends have are not on it then coming back to the store complaining.
    People forget it took Android a few years to become a must support platform by companies. Windows is starting to get to this point. Only users complaining to companies will give them motivation.
    11-06-2014 11:19 AM
  12. colinkiama's Avatar
    People forget it took Android a few years to become a must support platform by companies. Windows is starting to get to this point. Only users complaining to companies will give them motivation.
    At this point, android had more marketshare than iOS. Look at us now.
    11-06-2014 01:19 PM
  13. mrruz's Avatar
    Isn't the HTC M8 windows version an ATT exclusive?
    11-06-2014 03:43 PM
  14. pursuit2550's Avatar
    People forget it took Android a few years to become a must support platform by companies. Windows is starting to get to this point. Only users complaining to companies will give them motivation.
    How many few years do we need to give WP. Every time I turn around theres a new product thats compatible with Android and Apple, WP are getting no love, which sucks.
    By the way I just came from BJ's and was looking at the G3, very nice. A tad bigger than the M8, but the bezel to bezel screen is awesome. Didnt play with it much but it looked nice.
    11-06-2014 03:44 PM
  15. pursuit2550's Avatar
    Isn't the HTC M8 windows version an ATT exclusive?
    No. It was a VZW exclusive. Everyone should have it now.
    11-06-2014 03:45 PM
  16. humanhowever's Avatar
    Everyone says using WP is "difficult" for someone who hasn't used it before. And that is true. But it also applies to all the other platforms too. I tried IOS a few weeks back, not because I was thinking of getting an iPhone, but because a friend of mine was having problems with her phone and asked me for help. It made no sense to me whatsoever. I found it extremely cumbersome and difficult compared to what I am used to. And I think that's the issue. Change is not easy, even if it may be for the better. We are comfortable with what we know. If I had used IOS for weeks, then maybe I'd change my view, but as a first time user, sure it's hard. And I can understand why people think WP is too. But people want instant results. And it transcends out of technology into how we perceive people too in some cases. Sad cases, but they occur nonetheless. (HAHA this is going totally off topic)

    I can agree with the app issue. Though I don't use THAT many apps, there are some I wish were on WP. For example, an app to manage my Oyster card (Londoners would know what this is), make top ups, see journey history etc etc, or an app from the Poetry foundation. Those are the two I miss the most from my android days. And others may have their own choices of apps that they want / miss / desire for WP.
    11-06-2014 04:05 PM
  17. djarchow's Avatar
    Everyone says using WP is "difficult" for someone who hasn't used it before. And that is true. But it also applies to all the other platforms too. I tried IOS a few weeks back, not because I was thinking of getting an iPhone, but because a friend of mine was having problems with her phone and asked me for help. It made no sense to me whatsoever. I found it extremely cumbersome and difficult compared to what I am used to. And I think that's the issue. Change is not easy, even if it may be for the better. We are comfortable with what we know. If I had used IOS for weeks, then maybe I'd change my view, but as a first time user, sure it's hard. And I can understand why people think WP is too. But people want instant results. And it transcends out of technology into how we perceive people too in some cases. Sad cases, but they occur nonetheless. (HAHA this is going totally off topic)

    I can agree with the app issue. Though I don't use THAT many apps, there are some I wish were on WP. For example, an app to manage my Oyster card (Londoners would know what this is), make top ups, see journey history etc etc, or an app from the Poetry foundation. Those are the two I miss the most from my android days. And others may have their own choices of apps that they want / miss / desire for WP.
    I don't get this "difficult" comment on any of the various mobile operating systems. I just moved to WP from Android and the rest of my family all uses IOS devices. I have no issues using any of them, even the first time. I may struggle a bit figuring out what apps of the 4000 my wife has on her phone to use on IOS but that is about it. I also struggle occasionally on IOS with doing some low level thing my wife can't figure out, only to discover that apple doesn't let you change the way that works. As far as WP, I struggled far more my first time on Windows 8 on a non touch screen PC than I ever did with WP.

    So I just don't get some of the vitriol people spew towards one OS or another...'Android is the worst thing ever'...'IOS is absolute garbage...' etc. They all have pluses and minuses, but are more similar than they are different. In the end, you are still tapping on some icon to open an app to or change a setting, I have to admit though, that I do curse the keyboard on WP almost every time I use it. Most of my passwords all are a fairly long mix of letters and numbers and constantly having to switch back and forth between the letters and numbers version of the keyboard just to log in somewhere is maddening. I may just have to go back to using 'abcd' as my password for everything.
    11-06-2014 04:47 PM
  18. saulgould13's Avatar
    Perhaps Verizon /ATT etc.. sales crew is or isn't educated in which phone they sell (most only care that they sell a phone and make a commission) the other end of that comes down to consumer purchasing choices of which there are many. As when buying a car for example, one researches, is it an electric car, hybrid, gas mileage, SUV, wagon etc.. Point is, when buying anything that's worth an investment one can deduce that an educated customer doesn't need a sales pitch.
    11-06-2014 05:26 PM
  19. Loc Ngo's Avatar
    Lets see:

    Trello? Nope.
    Offcial Youtube? Nope.
    Hangouts? Nope.
    Gmail app? Nope.
    Teamwork? Nope
    Trillian? Nope
    Github? Nope
    Chrome? Nope


    Thats just off the top of my head for apps I wish I had and used to in iOS and Android.
    Never expect to use anything Google when you use a Windows Phone. Why would you? I've hardly ever opened my gmail on the website since I bought my Lumia. And again, the 3rd party app for Youtube is way better than the pathetic official app from Google. And I have got better alternative to every single Google service.
    11-06-2014 06:51 PM
  20. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    What is better than Hangouts, when that is what everyone I know uses?

    Anyway, the poster asked for a list, he got one. There is no arguing it unless you can provide a source to get said apps.

    Out of the 8 apps I listed off the top of my head, only 3 were Google, and twice now posters have focused on those three alone, as if suddenly the app gap doesn't exist because I had some Google apps on there.
    11-06-2014 07:21 PM
  21. Jas00555's Avatar

    Out of the 8 apps I listed off the top of my head, only 3 were Google, and twice now posters have focused on those three alone, as if suddenly the app gap doesn't exist because I had some Google apps on there.
    I think your math is a little off. You said Youtube, Hangouts, Gmail, and Chrome. So half of your list is from Google.
    11-06-2014 09:01 PM
  22. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    I think your math is a little off. You said Youtube, Hangouts, Gmail, and Chrome. So half of your list is from Google.
    Yep, I missed one.

    Doesn't change anything though, does it? Did me missing that single app when I counted them, making it suddenly appear on the app store? Did it cure the app gap? Or is the fact that half of my list is from Google mean that the app gap doesn't matter? Would you like me to add to that list further?

    Official Harvest app--no way I am giving my work credentials to some random app developer and the reviews on the ms store show it doesn't work anyway. Going to the site on mobile IE is painful.
    Official Dropbox app--the knockoff pales in comparison
    Swiftkey
    WolframAlpha


    Just a few more that I once used regularly. Now that my list is no longer half from Google, is it suddenly more valid? Or is the fact that there a lot of apps missing from the ms store reason enough?
    11-06-2014 10:46 PM
  23. andrygun's Avatar
    I came from android, been using it since 2008 (Yup, HTC Magic, cupcake version). Watched it grew up until it reached kitkat 4.4.2.

    Now I would say (as some people have mentioned), none of these OS (android, ios and windows) are easy to use. You need to learn it no matter what. The real problem is that not everyone is willing to learn from scratch. They just want what is comfortable for them. Heck none of my friends willing to root their phones and loaded custom ROM during my android days. They prefer to just go to ios.

    What I'm trying to say is those big carriers do nothing wrong. If I own a store where the majority buys ios & android, then that's what I will provide to the customers. I won't care about which one is easier to use etc. As long as it sells well, expensive contract and the customer satisfaction is high.

    Regarding the apps, sadly Google online services are second to none. If you think that people going to change to outlook, onedrive, calendar just to move to WP, then you're mistaken. The fact that none of Google apps are available actually hurts WP a lot.
    Last edited by andrygun; 11-06-2014 at 11:45 PM.
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    11-06-2014 11:30 PM
  24. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    I came from android, been using it since 2008 (Yup, HTC Magic, cupcake version). Watched it grew up until it reached kitkat 4.4.2.

    Now I would say (as some people have mentioned), none of these OS (android, ios and windows) are easy to use. You need to learn it no matter what. The real problem is that not everyone is willing to learn from scratch. They just want what is comfortable for them. Heck none of my friends willing to root their phones and loaded custom ROM during my android days. They prefer to just go to ios.

    What I'm trying to say is those big carriers do nothing wrong. If I own a store where the majority buys ios & android, then that's what I will provide to the customers. I won't care about which one is easier to use etc. As long as it sells well, expensive contract and the customer satisfaction is high.

    Regarding the apps, sadly Google online services are second to none. If you think that people going to change to outlook, onedrive, calendar just to move to WP, then you're mistaken. The fact that none of Google apps are available actually hurts WP a lot.
    I've moved to OneDrive and Outlook, but there is no denying that they simply are not as good as Google's counterparts.
    11-07-2014 12:05 AM
  25. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I've moved to OneDrive and Outlook, but there is no denying that they simply are not as good as Google's counterparts.
    In your opinion. Stop speaking as if that is fact.
    11-07-2014 03:29 AM
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