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  1. jlangner's Avatar
    I agree with about everything you typed!!

    2 things I have to say I have missed more than I thought I would: The physical camera button and the Glance. Glance was simply because my phone is my watch, and having the time without waking the phone up was super handy. The physical button for the camera is handy when something starts happening right in front of you as you are using the phone for something else or if the phone is off. Being able to just hit that button and you are right there is way better than having to back out to the menu and slid to the camera icon.

    Otherwise, I like it so far. I dig the onscreen keys. Being able to remove them and bring them back up makes way more sense to me than capacitive keys taking up real estate. It is as quick as a hiccup, and I was watching the "Agent Carter" premier on my Watch ABC app, and the sound was really good. Just a good time.

    Love the large selection of cases and accessories as well. It having a fraternal twin that is an Android has its advantages.
    I missed the camera button as well at first, but after putting the HTC One Camera tile in a "good" place, I hit it just about as quick as with button and tapping camera on display to take, quickly adjusted as well. Got the wife a 635 for Christmas and same setup for her.
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    01-10-2015 08:50 AM
  2. srcpt's Avatar
    There's actually a pretty good reason for the M8 NOT to have wireless... Aluminum is not conductive. The entire back of the phone is a solid piece of aluminum. Getting a current to pass through that would be almost impossible. That means you would either have to drill the case to put holes in it for something that would be conductive or you would have to use a case style that plugs into the USB port. HTC didn't want to go that route, so they left it off. It does make perfect sense.
    Isn't aluminum actually a very good conductor? It used to be used in residential wiring when copper was in short supply. It's still used in long distance high tension electrical transmission lines.




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    01-10-2015 09:46 AM
  3. snowmutt's Avatar
    HTC has their backs pinned to the wall at the moment. Not releasing Lollipop for either will not be a PR disaster they will risk.
    That said, I think Microsoft moneyhatted the phone anyway, so they can take charge in updates.
    "moneyhatted"?

    Like that phrase..... Gonna steal it and give you no credit at all, so you know.

    01-10-2015 10:06 AM
  4. snowmutt's Avatar
    Most of the post through this thread are about the exact reason I crossed the M8W off my list at first as well: Support. It is one thing that HTC did not bring updates, most are concerned that HTC did not even fix problems with their devices they could have.

    But I urge everyone to consider this phone. We in the WP world are short on top level options, and this is a top end, well designed phone on the top two carriers in the US. I do recommend it. I feel HTC realizes as a company that they had success early with Windows Mobile, WP devices like the Trophy and other WP 1st gen, and Android devices like the EVO, than fell out of favor with their horrid Thunderbolt, bad follow up on Sprint in the glitch filled EVO 3D, and the aforementioned Titan,

    But this just feels better. It works well, smoothly, and the quirks that turned into problems in other HTC's so far are not there. I will be honest if they start, but right now I have seen nothing to think this will be anything but enjoyable. I am not recommending it over Lumia's, I am recommending it for what it is: A serious Flagship for WP.
    01-10-2015 10:42 AM
  5. Kevin Hill2's Avatar
    I love my M8, the only thing I miss is number blocking and I can live without that, I run the Developer preview so I will get all the new updates and even if it didn't I would be ok with that, I bought the phone for what it is not for what it could be. I think the Lumia phones are great and have super cameras but oh my word are they getting long in the tooth on looks, and I wanted a new flagship phone now not 10 months from now, and one with a attractive look and feel and something new to offer and the M8 filled the bill in spades. You are more tied up in the Lumia firmware then you are in the operating system, every brand has their own spin and add ons and app's . hey if a super great camera and Lumia's app's are what you like great, good for you, I happen to like HTC's spin on Windows phone. But oh wow, I mean really, you need to be happy with what you have and stop worrying about what is next .
    01-10-2015 10:58 AM
  6. cbreze's Avatar
    2 things I have to say I have missed more than I thought I would: The physical camera button and the Glance. Glance was simply because my phone is my watch, and having the time without waking the phone up was super handy.
    I never had glance, but found the double tap feature of the M8 was fine for a quick time check or recent alert, email, missed call check. As for the camera button this is of course a personal preference. I always preferred fewer buttons hanging off my phone giving it a more streamlined look. I had my camera app(pro shot) right on the home screen, tap awake and a simple press brought it up so basically two buttons pressed , barely more than a nano second or two and a picture was in my file, bam, done. Loved my M8 and my icon both. Both had their good and bad points as it is always so with these devices. Could care less about some debate if HTC would provide some update I may get or not. The M8 was maybe not ahead of the icon on updates if you used the DP, but it seemed to operate much smoother and with less issues than icon on DP. A great phone. Enjoy! I change phones usually yearly and next month the icon is a year old. Still no update to cyan etc. but folks still waiting over there in the icon forum. Now its denim. I wonder how old the icon will be before they get that, if ever. More importantly how well will a year old phone even run with it. Sorry, kinda went off topic. Enjoy your M8!
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    01-10-2015 11:50 AM
  7. snowmutt's Avatar
    The Icon has turned into quite the sore subject, hasn't it?

    It was, in most ways, the perfect WP at launch. To screw it up is mystifying.
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    01-10-2015 12:27 PM
  8. mj0's Avatar
    The Icon not getting any updates is Verizon's fault, not Nokia's. The 930 ships with Cyan and will shortly receive Denim. If I'm not mistaken it's already available in some countries but I might be wrong. On the other hand HTC phones not getting updates or proper support is nowhere near any carrier's fault, that one has solely HTC written all over it. They've done it multiple times with multiple phones, which is why I do not trust them to offer proper long time support for their current lineup. Quite frankly I couldn't care less if their phones started farting out giant rainbows - the damage is done and I do not believe they've changed even a bit. It'll take years of hard steady work to win back customers lost due to crappy support.

    To be honest I wouldn't even take an HTC phone if it was free. However, I do respect other people's opinions and I wish you all the best with your new phone. I sincerely hope you'll remain happy with it for as long as you intend to use it :)
    Last edited by mj0; 01-10-2015 at 05:04 PM.
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    01-10-2015 04:54 PM
  9. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    The Icon not getting any updates is Verizon's fault, not Nokia's. The 930 ships with Cyan and will shortly receive Denim. If I'm not mistaken it's already available in some countries but I might be wrong. On the other hand HTC phones not getting updates or proper support is nowhere near any carrier's fault, that one has solely HTC written all over it. They've done it multiple times with multiple phones, which is why I do not trust them to offer proper long time support for their current lineup. Quite frankly I couldn't care less if their phones started farting out giant rainbows - the damage is done and I do not believe they've changed even a bit. It'll take years of hard steady work to win back customers lost due to crappy support.

    To be honest I wouldn't even take an HTC phone if it was free. However, I do respect other people's opinions and I wish you all the best with your new phone. I sincerely hope you'll remain happy with it for as long as you intend to use it :)
    When Nokia is slow on updates, it has to be carrier intervention. When HTC is, it cannot be carrier intervention.

    Sounds legit.
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    01-10-2015 10:30 PM
  10. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    When Nokia is slow on updates, it has to be carrier intervention. When HTC is, it cannot be carrier intervention.

    Sounds legit.
    I believe it's more complicated than that. Nokia never released any CDMA Symbian devices due to a patent dispute. That kept Nokia off of Verizon and Sprint before Windows Phone existed. Nokia: No Symbian CDMA Handsets; Wait Until Windows Phone - Forbes

    There might still be some bad feelings between Verizon and Microsoft Mobile, due to this past issue with Nokia.
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    01-10-2015 10:52 PM
  11. mj0's Avatar
    When Nokia is slow on updates, it has to be carrier intervention. When HTC is, it cannot be carrier intervention.

    Sounds legit.
    The Icon is essentially a CDMA-version of the 930 exclusively available on Verizon. Cyan for the 930 is available, and so is Denim on some countries. Unlocked devices have received these updates already. Verizon, however, had decided to not release these updates yet for reasons unknown to all of us.

    Tell me again, how is this Nokia's/Microsoft's fault?
    Last edited by mj0; 01-11-2015 at 02:56 AM.
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    01-11-2015 01:47 AM
  12. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Perhaps M8 users on Verizon will get timely updates when they are available. Verizon has a long history of selling HTC devices.
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    01-11-2015 02:13 AM
  13. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    The Icon is essentially a CDMA-version of the 930 exclusively available on Verizon. Cyan for the 930 is available, and so is Denim on some countries. Unlocked devices have received these updates already. Verizon, however, had decided to not release these updates yet for reasons unknown to all of us.

    Tell me again, how is this Nokia's/Microsoft's fault?
    Oh I know its Verizon's fault. You missed the entire point of what I said.
    01-11-2015 01:29 PM
  14. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I believe it's more complicated than that. Nokia never released any CDMA Symbian devices due to a patent dispute. That kept Nokia off of Verizon and Sprint before Windows Phone existed. Nokia: No Symbian CDMA Handsets; Wait Until Windows Phone - Forbes

    There might still be some bad feelings between Verizon and Microsoft Mobile, due to this past issue with Nokia.
    What did that Nokia Twist abortion run on? Wasn't it Series 40?
    01-11-2015 07:34 PM
  15. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    What did that Nokia Twist abortion run on? Wasn't it Series 40?
    I don't remember that one, but I've always had AT&T (previously Cingular). I've never had any other carriers.
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    01-11-2015 10:44 PM
  16. infamousdaveman's Avatar
    Come tomorrow, I too will be an HTC M8 WP owner! And Im quite excited about it too! I jumped on the WP train with a KIN(remember those? Haha) and of course, once it was deemed obsolete, I was anxious to check out Windows Phone 7 when my contract was up. I followed so much news and was front and center at ms launch events with 7.5. I really wanted a Titan but the Focus S was such a sexy device, I could resist! So I got the Sammy and was amazingly happy until windows 8 launched and I moved on to Nokia. Got the 920 in red and loved it, yet since then, with a few drops here and there, I've gotten 2 "free" upgrades to a 1020 and a 1520 which I currently own.

    Overall, I've been happy with Nokia but none of their phones have matched the feeling I got with the focus s. My 1520 has been a treat, and im sure my wife will take it over, but it wasn't a phone I picked out nor really wanted, which might be why i was still so keen on upgrading when my contract was up. I saw the HTC m8 amd it just feels so luxurious! It looks gorgeous, and it has that perfect feeling in my hand! I only had a few moments with it at the att store so tomorrow, it will still feel quite new to me.

    Like you, I desire more choice, and more big names making WP hardware, so Im quite proud to know im going be contributing to that! While I wish MS success in their hardware division, I think its time to move away from Lumia and give another oem a shot. This is my first HTC and I plan to keep it stock the whole way through. The preview for developers has turned me into an obsessed "update" freak and some of the updates haven't been tailored right for the hardware anyways, so id rather wait it out with a phone that works flawlessly than take more risks and become disgruntled if one takes too long.

    Funny, one of the things I love most about it? Having Windows Phone written on the back haha. Add a free dot view case, Xbox branded?. Love it!!can't wait, nothing beats the excitement of getting a new phone!!!
    01-14-2015 01:02 AM
  17. aximtreo's Avatar
    Ok Snow, it's been a week now; how do you like the M8?
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    01-14-2015 11:23 AM
  18. snowmutt's Avatar
    Come tomorrow, I too will be an HTC M8 WP owner! And Im quite excited about it too! I jumped on the WP train with a KIN(remember those? Haha) and of course, once it was deemed obsolete, I was anxious to check out Windows Phone 7 when my contract was up. I followed so much news and was front and center at ms launch events with 7.5. I really wanted a Titan but the Focus S was such a sexy device, I could resist! So I got the Sammy and was amazingly happy until windows 8 launched and I moved on to Nokia. Got the 920 in red and loved it, yet since then, with a few drops here and there, I've gotten 2 "free" upgrades to a 1020 and a 1520 which I currently own.

    Overall, I've been happy with Nokia but none of their phones have matched the feeling I got with the focus s. My 1520 has been a treat, and im sure my wife will take it over, but it wasn't a phone I picked out nor really wanted, which might be why i was still so keen on upgrading when my contract was up. I saw the HTC m8 amd it just feels so luxurious! It looks gorgeous, and it has that perfect feeling in my hand! I only had a few moments with it at the att store so tomorrow, it will still feel quite new to me.

    Like you, I desire more choice, and more big names making WP hardware, so Im quite proud to know im going be contributing to that! While I wish MS success in their hardware division, I think its time to move away from Lumia and give another oem a shot. This is my first HTC and I plan to keep it stock the whole way through. The preview for developers has turned me into an obsessed "update" freak and some of the updates haven't been tailored right for the hardware anyways, so id rather wait it out with a phone that works flawlessly than take more risks and become disgruntled if one takes too long.

    Funny, one of the things I love most about it? Having Windows Phone written on the back haha. Add a free dot view case, Xbox branded?. Love it!!can't wait, nothing beats the excitement of getting a new phone!!!
    We do love our shiney toys.....

    I have started to wonder how much a KIN would cost if you could find one for sale. Hmmmmm....
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    01-15-2015 09:31 PM
  19. snowmutt's Avatar
    Ok Snow, it's been a week now; how do you like the M8?
    3 little quirks:

    1) It takes FOREVER for a call to connect. Honest, I do not get it. I select my contact or I type in the number, hit "call", and can almost count to 10 before it starts to ring. Weirdness....

    2) Ringtones and text message alerts are really quiet. Can barely hear them. For as good as the audio is, I can not get those two to ring thru better. I have missed a dozen calls and find out I have 6 texts waiting on me. Weirdness part 2....

    3) I get random screen shots all the time. Look through my camera roll, and I have picture after picture of my home screen. Not sure if it is because of my Otterbox or if I just am hitting buttons without knowing. That one is just plain strange.....

    Other than that, I am loving this thing. I love the screen, I love the audio, I dig the design, I like camera results (yep... I said it: I LIKE THE CAMERA ALL YOU HATERS!!!), it has not had any lag or "ghosting", as one would expect it is smooth as an iced over lake.

    It is just different enough that you know it is not a Nokia, and I mean that in a good way. It is a hair different feel but it is still the WP experience I want.

    I absolutely recommend this bad boy. (Or bad girl, lest I be insensitive.) It carries the banner of Flagship well. It has no glaring weak points and a TON of strong points.
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    01-15-2015 09:46 PM
  20. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    2) Ringtones and text message alerts are really quiet. Can barely hear them. For as good as the audio is, I can not get those two to ring thru better. I have missed a dozen calls and find out I have 6 texts waiting on me. Weirdness part 2....
    Have you tried making your own ringtones and picking something really loud? If so, are those still quiet sounding as well, or is it just the preinstalled ringtones that are quiet?
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    01-15-2015 09:52 PM
  21. snowmutt's Avatar
    Have you tried making your own ringtones and picking something really loud? If so, are those still quiet sounding as well, or is it just the preinstalled ringtones that are quiet?
    No, I only have used the installed ones. I will download some and give that a shot.

    That is why you are the bomb around here, Laura. You are always thinking....
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    01-15-2015 10:03 PM
  22. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    No, I only have used the installed ones. I will download some and give that a shot.

    That is why you are the bomb around here, Laura. You are always thinking....
    The preinstalled ringtones on my Lumia 920 were also quiet. I'm using a train whistle sound as my phone call ringtone. It's loud, and I always hear it. I like Audacity for creating ringtones from songs I have. I learned about Audacity from members of CrackBerry when I originally wanted to make my own ringtones for BlackBerry devices.
    01-15-2015 10:14 PM
  23. mark233's Avatar
    I get random screen shots all the time. Look through my camera roll, and I have picture after picture of my home screen. Not sure if it is because of my Otterbox or if I just am hitting buttons without knowing. That one is just plain strange.....
    This happens to me. It's because of how I'm holding my phone when I tap the power button on top. Being right-handed my forefinger is on the top power button and my thumb seems to naturally rest aside the volume +up button. I tap the power button and *click* ---- ... oops.... there goes another screenshot lol.
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    01-16-2015 04:47 AM
  24. DrRyder's Avatar
    3 little quirks:

    1) It takes FOREVER for a call to connect. Honest, I do not get it. I select my contact or I type in the number, hit "call", and can almost count to 10 before it starts to ring. Weirdness....

    2) Ringtones and text message alerts are really quiet. Can barely hear them. For as good as the audio is, I can not get those two to ring thru better. I have missed a dozen calls and find out I have 6 texts waiting on me. Weirdness part 2....

    3) I get random screen shots all the time. Look through my camera roll, and I have picture after picture of my home screen. Not sure if it is because of my Otterbox or if I just am hitting buttons without knowing. That one is just plain strange.....

    Other than that, I am loving this thing. I love the screen, I love the audio, I dig the design, I like camera results (yep... I said it: I LIKE THE CAMERA ALL YOU HATERS!!!), it has not had any lag or "ghosting", as one would expect it is smooth as an iced over lake.

    It is just different enough that you know it is not a Nokia, and I mean that in a good way. It is a hair different feel but it is still the WP experience I want.

    I absolutely recommend this bad boy. (Or bad girl, lest I be insensitive.) It carries the banner of Flagship well. It has no glaring weak points and a TON of strong points.
    1. Can't say I've experienced any issues with calls connecting. Its usually pretty fast for me. May be something to ask your carrier about.

    2. Do you have both volume settings turned up? Also, try checking the attentive settings in the main Settings app. It has options for making ringtones, etc louder if its in a pocket and things like that. That may help raise the volume a bit. With 2 speakers, volume should not be an issue with this phone at all.

    3. Holding power & volume up is going to cause a screenshot. Your case might be doing it or you may be bumping buttons on accident. It just requires both buttons be pushed at the same time, not held at all. With my Dot View case, I never take accidental screenshots.

    This is a great phone and has lots of great features. I hope you can get these 3 things resolved. :) Glad you're loving the phone so far.
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    01-16-2015 10:01 AM
  25. lesd777's Avatar
    Best Buy has this phone on sale for $29.99 with a 2yr contract. Probably getting the wife to upgrade from her 920 today.
    02-07-2015 11:49 AM
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