11-21-2011 11:47 AM
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  1. jalb's Avatar
    I'm devastated. I thought I finally made a decision, lol.

    Oh well, I love my Focus anyway. I can play wait and see a while longer.
    11-16-2011 12:58 PM
  2. kevm14's Avatar
    If you are patient, the most conservative decision would just be to see how the first AT&T Titans appear to be. I'll have to decide if I want to be among these people, or sit back and see how people react.
    11-16-2011 01:08 PM
  3. Blacklac's Avatar
    <-- Not patient! lol I've been holding out on my contract upgrade for a year already. :'(
    11-16-2011 01:16 PM
  4. kevm14's Avatar
    I will be swithing over 2 lines from Sprint, the primary of which has been with them for 12 years. So for me the decision gets more complex.
    11-16-2011 01:39 PM
  5. power5's Avatar
    If I get a phone and it has bugs it will be going back and I will be getting a refund. I do not just roll over and take it, and hope for fixes down the line. I can always put my sim card back in my iphone and wait for the next devices or exchange for a 4S.
    11-16-2011 02:12 PM
  6. soullinker20's Avatar
    i hope they're already in excellent condition when the titan comes here in the philippines

    i'm ready to switch OS as i find the tiles suiting me best especially i'm not much into apps

    and the battery will be better than the iP4..
    11-16-2011 07:33 PM
  7. jalb's Avatar
    <-- Not patient! lol I've been holding out on my contract upgrade for a year already. :'(

    I know, right? LOL. I have been off contract since Februaryish and it's burning a hole in my pocket!

    If I get a phone and it has bugs it will be going back and I will be getting a refund. I do not just roll over and take it, and hope for fixes down the line. I can always put my sim card back in my iphone and wait for the next devices or exchange for a 4S.
    I hear you. I am worried a bit though - I am on my third Focus, which I have warrantied twice due to very reasonable complaints, and I am worried that AT&T may fire me. :) I think I need my next phone to be the last one I have for a while.
    11-16-2011 08:15 PM
  8. Verkunder's Avatar
    I bought the Focus S when it came out and just love how the colors pop off the screen. Just got home from getting a Titan and, all due respect to wpcentral's reviewers, but I can't comprehend how they think this screen looks better than the S's Super Amoled+. The Titan looks just as washed out as my HD7.

    Besides the size, I don't really see what this thing has going for it. It doesn't feel as light as the S and it's definitely louder, but beyond that I'm having a hard time figuring out why this phone is so hyped. I guess having the HTC apps are good?

    I'll have to see after a couple days which one I'd use as a primary.
    11-16-2011 10:48 PM
  9. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    I bought the Focus S when it came out and just love how the colors pop off the screen. Just got home from getting a Titan and, all due respect to wpcentral's reviewers, but I can't comprehend how they think this screen looks better than the S's Super Amoled+. The Titan looks just as washed out as my HD7.

    Besides the size, I don't really see what this thing has going for it. It doesn't feel as light as the S and it's definitely louder, but beyond that I'm having a hard time figuring out why this phone is so hyped. I guess having the HTC apps are good?

    I'll have to see after a couple days which one I'd use as a primary.
    HTC apps and general build are very solid. The screen is no slouch, but in the end, it's still a LCD panel (to be more precise, believed to be a *VA tech panel - good black levels, horrid just about everywhere else, especially response time vs TN and even IPS).
    11-17-2011 12:00 AM
  10. timGSU's Avatar
    I bought the Focus S when it came out and just love how the colors pop off the screen. Just got home from getting a Titan and, all due respect to wpcentral's reviewers, but I can't comprehend how they think this screen looks better than the S's Super Amoled+. The Titan looks just as washed out as my HD7.

    Besides the size, I don't really see what this thing has going for it. It doesn't feel as light as the S and it's definitely louder, but beyond that I'm having a hard time figuring out why this phone is so hyped. I guess having the HTC apps are good?

    I'll have to see after a couple days which one I'd use as a primary.
    How'd you get a Titan earlY?
    11-17-2011 12:32 AM
  11. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    How'd you get a Titan earlY?
    Titan was out and about a while ago, just not for the USA. Of course, not as bad as the Galaxy SII USA delay, lol.
    11-17-2011 12:50 AM
  12. Verkunder's Avatar
    How'd you get a Titan earlY?
    I guess I can say how. I worked an Inner Circle Event last night and those of us that demo'd got to choose a phone. Since I'm perpetually early I got the only Titan they had available. I'm beginning to think my version is a UK version because I reset to customize/etc and it defaulted to the Dublin timezone. That and I can't get a 3G signal whereas my Focus S get five bars of 4G.

    The HTC apps are nice, no doubt, and the build quality trumps the S hands down. But like jeremyshaw said, the screen is just gross, and there's a dip in framrate when you scroll. Not lag per se, but you can obviously see the frames.

    Once I get it working with 3G I'll put it through some tests, but so far it's not making me sing its praises in the center of town.
    11-17-2011 07:40 AM
  13. kevm14's Avatar
    AT&T version says "AT&T" on top instead of "HTC."



    I disagree about the screen, though I haven't seen both in person next to each other. I think the real advantage of AMOLED would be in a very dark environment where the infinite contrast really shines. But I don't use my phones in the dark, so that doesn't matter to me.

    HTC Titan review: Huge is the new big - GSMArena.com

    Screen looks good by measurement specs here. I bet gamut is more accurate than the Focus S, as well, which also matters to me.
    11-17-2011 08:57 AM
  14. FuriousGeorge984's Avatar
    Weird, I don't think I've had any of the issues mentioned. The only issue that I've had so far that has bugged me is that it can sometimes be inconsistent switching from 3G to WiFi when you enter a WiFi zone. (I think this is a Mango issue generally)
    11-17-2011 09:37 AM
  15. jalb's Avatar
    I'm almost thinking I will have to use the phone for a week in order to make a final decision. I want to upgrade real bad, and for me, the decision on which handset to jump to is either based on the size of the Titan's screen (I really want a larger phone for my ham-sized hands) versus What Nokia Music turns into in the USA (I really like the idea of the 14 hours of free offline downloads).

    So I guess I need to see the Titan in my hands for a bit. If I end up not liking it, I think I will hold off and see what Nokia does in the US.
    11-17-2011 09:57 AM
  16. power5's Avatar
    The Focus S did pop more than the SLCD screens when I went in last weekend. No titans to compare but others were there. But, unless its right next to one every day, you will not be aware of the differences. Anything is better than my current screen resolution and brightness. Titan is heavier because its not plastic.
    Last edited by power5; 11-17-2011 at 01:08 PM.
    11-17-2011 10:53 AM
  17. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    Dublin is GMT time, is GMT, so that could be why. But the titan you can buy off of expansys/amazon is the UK version. As for the screen, I have seen both in person. It won't bother those who don't care (lol), but is most noticeable with the white on black background (IMO). I have/had (respectively) the focus and galaxy sii, and enjoyed the appearance of a black slate that simply "lighted up" right on the surface. Of course, it's not without flaws (many UI elements have a slight background to them that is colored like bad LCD glow), so outside of a few key points, you'll likely be very hard pressed to notice the "infinite contrast," in practice (i.e, the kb and word suggestion area has this). Have fun.

    Sent from my SGH-i937 using Board Express
    11-17-2011 11:25 AM
  18. Verkunder's Avatar
    AT&T version says "AT&T" on top instead of "HTC."



    I disagree about the screen, though I haven't seen both in person next to each other. I think the real advantage of AMOLED would be in a very dark environment where the infinite contrast really shines. But I don't use my phones in the dark, so that doesn't matter to me.

    HTC Titan review: Huge is the new big - GSMArena.com

    Screen looks good by measurement specs here. I bet gamut is more accurate than the Focus S, as well, which also matters to me.
    Take it for what it's worth, but in both dark and light that Titan looks like butt. I'd say just above HD7s quality, but to each his own.
    11-17-2011 02:36 PM
  19. Blacklac's Avatar
    Well, its never a good idea to judge screens on a video. From all the Titan reviews I've seen, the screen comments are always positive, some saying its right up there with the Super AMOLEDS. It obviously won't have the over-saturated colors or light output of a Super AMOLED, so comparing them side by side will show drastic results. All the comparisons I've seen show the Titan having incredible whites compared to most phones too. It seems like a pretty color accurate phone compared to the others. Whether you like that or not is up to the individual. I greatly appreciate that and dislike AMOLEDS because they are nowhere near color accurate from what I've seen.

    Not to mention, if your trying to compare phones screen through a video, is the monitor your using color calibrated? Probably not for most.

    Its all personal preference. Most hands on reviews have positive things to say about the Titans screen. I can certainly understand people preferring the pop from AMOLEDS however.
    11-17-2011 03:21 PM
  20. kevm14's Avatar
    How much the screen "pops" is not my prerogative. I think it is important to outline those types of requirements before opining. Color *accuracy* and a gamut approximate to sRGB (not way wider) is what I prefer. This is also coming from a guy who still prefers CRTs (and, when I get a flat panel, probably a plasma) to the eye-poppingly-processed LCD-type panels. Some of this comes from my photog hobbyist background where I expect blue sky to be blue, not day-glow, and skin tones to be accurate, not red/magenta. Unless I deliberately enhance the image. The screen should NEVER EVER do this for me.

    For the basic WP7 interface, admittedly, SAMOLED+ will look "better." But when I view photos, I have no tolerance for pumped up saturation, et al. And I will obviously view actual photos on this phone.

    So those are my values.

    It obviously won't have the over-saturated colors or light output of a Super AMOLED,
    Actually, it's brighter. According to the GSM Arena review, the Titan, on 100% brightness, has whites that are 56% brighter than the SGSII, which I assume uses the same screen as the Focus S. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was also more power efficient at the same time.

    E-mail viewing and web browsing is largely on a white background, which contrasts directly with the core WP7 interface. And based on what I expect I will use the phone for, I'll be in the browser and e-mail more often than the core WP7 interface.
    11-17-2011 04:20 PM
  21. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    On whites, the gsii had an unstoppable feature that dimmed the display. Focus S has an option to disable it. Then again, I don't stare at a white screen all day.

    Sent from my SGH-i937 using Board Express
    11-17-2011 04:31 PM
  22. Verkunder's Avatar
    I've done a more in-depth side by side with the Focus S, and while the Amoled does make contrasts rather nicely, the colors aren't natural looking. While the black background of the Titan doesn't come close to the black from the S, the whites are much better, which in turn makes the color more natural.

    I turned the brightness on both to high--the S stayed very black, and the Titan's black seemed a little lighter. Looking at both devices from the side, the S definitely has a blueish hue, and noting that, I saw pictures had an unnatural tint to them. One photo, that had a lot of wall in the shot, stayed consisten on the Titan. On the S, the edges of the wall had a grayish color to them--what wall, painted, looks different like that?

    In addition to the chicken and rice I'm having for dinner, I believe I am eating my words!

    EDIT: Also, I went to AT&T and tried to add an APN for their network, but the dude says they can't add one until the device is recognized by their software, on Sunday. Guess I'll just have to wait? Wonder if it'll just work that morning or I'll have to go in.
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    11-17-2011 06:10 PM
  23. kevm14's Avatar
    Thanks for taking another look. I am fairly convinced that I will prefer the Titan's screen to the Focus S.

    How did the overall brightness compare with both cranked up to high?
    11-17-2011 07:27 PM
  24. Verkunder's Avatar
    Thanks for taking another look. I am fairly convinced that I will prefer the Titan's screen to the Focus S.

    How did the overall brightness compare with both cranked up to high?
    The whites really goood on the Titan, but the black background looks backlit. The blacks on the S look really dark, but the colors look oversaturated. Little bit of a trade off.

    Titan's high bright isn't bad, but the S's high bright is very bright.
    11-18-2011 07:32 AM
  25. jalb's Avatar
    Well heck, if it's going to be a penny, that might turn me right back around.

    http://www.windowscentral.com/atts-h...7-phones-penny
    11-18-2011 08:21 AM
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