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  1. gtg465x's Avatar
    Why would AT&T limit the speed on the Titan but not on the Focus S? I doubt HTC would willfully hamstring their device while their competition is unhindered. Considering how many people are complaining about signal strength, it would not be surprising if this was a hardware issue.
    Why did they limit the LG Thrill and not the Samsung Infuse or the Samsung Galaxy S II? It's a known fact in that case. Maybe Samsung pushed back when AT&T asked them to limit the speed and HTC just complied like LG did. I find it hard to believe the radio hardware on this phone sucks this bad. HTC has been making phones for a long time. I doubt they suddenly forgot how to make a half decent radio.
    12-02-2011 03:09 PM
  2. Duvi's Avatar
    I had the same unreliable/slow network speeds when I when I had the Focus S for two weeks. For me, if it works, it works fine. But most of the time, I'm getting network timeouts, i.e. completely non-functional data connection. It's become such a problem for me that I'm usually surprised when the data works.

    EDIT: This isn't a signal strength issue; at least not for me. I can have full bars of "4G" and still be unable to use the data network.
    Maybe it was specific to that device and not all Focus S devices?
    12-02-2011 03:09 PM
  3. kltye's Avatar
    Maybe it was specific to that device and not all Focus S devices?
    Two devices exhibiting the same exact symptoms? That seems highly coincidental. The two devices were using completely different SIM cards too - one from an AT&T retail store, the other from a Microsoft store.
    12-02-2011 03:11 PM
  4. HeyCori's Avatar
    I had the same unreliable/slow network speeds when I when I had the Focus S for two weeks. For me, if it works, it works fine. But most of the time, I'm getting network timeouts, i.e. completely non-functional data connection. It's become such a problem for me that I'm usually surprised when the data works.

    EDIT: This isn't a signal strength issue; at least not for me. I can have full bars of "4G" and still be unable to use the data network.
    I've had that before on my Titan. 4 bars but no connectivity. I turned WiFi off then immediately turned it back on and that fixed the problem. But to be fair that could of been a problem on my end as my router goes from awesome to POS.
    12-02-2011 03:11 PM
  5. kltye's Avatar
    I've had that before on my Titan. 4 bars but no connectivity. I turned WiFi off then immediately turned it back on and that fixed the problem. But to be fair that could of been a problem on my end as my router goes from awesome to POS.
    WiFi has always been great for my on the Titan. I tested it and got 8Mbps over WiFi on my UVerse connection. My laptop on WiFi got 11Mbps. The max speed is usually about 15.8Mbps for me.

    I'm not as concerned about speeds as I am reliability - if I can load a page 2 seconds slower than an HSPA+ Android or iPhone, I'd be happy enough.
    12-02-2011 03:13 PM
  6. gtg465x's Avatar
    Well I think we all agree that the network performance on this phone (the AT&T version at least) isn't what it should be. Whether it's intentional on the part of AT&T, a bug in the firmware, or defective hardware we might never know unless we get some media coverage of the issue. AT&T and HTC need to know that there is an issue here and end users are noticing it.
    12-02-2011 03:20 PM
  7. Reflexx's Avatar
    Maybe when the Titan gets the 7740 update it will be fixed. In the US, we're still on 7720.

    Does anyone know if the International version had this problem before their 7740 update?
    12-02-2011 03:34 PM
  8. Blacklac's Avatar
    Maybe if someone could put together a solid video showing how the Titan is not running as it should and have an admin post it on the blog, maybe send the video or the link to other tech blogs? Who knows.
    threed61 likes this.
    12-02-2011 03:55 PM
  9. jawesome's Avatar
    Ugh I have no doubt this is true. My Titan is getting less than my Focus S (before I returned it) and about the same as my Focus did. I'll post my results later tonight.
    12-02-2011 07:28 PM
  10. ZombieBacchus's Avatar
    I live about 15 miles outside of Boston and am averaging between 2.5 ang 3.8 Mbps. Not too happy with that at all.
    12-02-2011 08:01 PM
  11. kevm14's Avatar
    I'm in RI. 1 bar of 4g and I'm getting 1.5 down and 0.25 up. WiFi seems slower as well but more testing is required.

    Sent from my HTC TITAN using Board Express
    12-02-2011 08:38 PM
  12. HeyCori's Avatar
    AT&T 4G LTE - Get 4G Speed with AT&T 4G LTE & 4G HSPA+

    Remember to check the coverage map to see if you actually have 4G in your area.
    12-02-2011 08:43 PM
  13. Blacklac's Avatar
    I seem to pretty steadily get 1.75Mbps down, while my friend seems to get around 2-2.5Mbps on his iPhone 4, which isn't even HSPA+. I get full signal also. I was told by my local ATT store, our town has had HSPA+ for almost 11 months, also.
    12-02-2011 08:46 PM
  14. Blacklac's Avatar
    I wonder if APN settings have any effect on this? I dont have any on my phone right now. Could you on ATT post that also?
    12-02-2011 08:56 PM
  15. HeyCori's Avatar
    My results from the link in the OP. Ran each one 3 times each.

    WiFi
    1st - 1MB
    2nd - 2MB
    3rd - 3MB

    4G (really 3G) and 1 bar:
    1st - 303 kbps
    2nd - 474 kbps
    3rd - 621 kbps
    12-02-2011 08:58 PM
  16. palandri's Avatar
    I wonder if APN settings have any effect on this? I dont have any on my phone right now. Could you on ATT post that also?
    It should be setup for AT&T. There's a HTC Program called Connection Setup. That should add all the AT&T fields:

    Access Point Names (APNs) | AT&T Developer Program
    12-02-2011 09:38 PM
  17. power5's Avatar
    Okay was currious. Mine pegs the bandwidth app but quickly drops back to 6 then stabilizes around 2-3 on wifi with only this page running on my computer.

    "4G" is a much worse story. I am in cincinnati and in the HSPA+ coverage. Their map sucks so not sure how much is actually covered, but I am less than 10 miles from the center of downtown. I get a very quick ping (same as wifi) of 74ms-85ms. Then it creeps up from .18 to around .7. Then at around halfway through it magically zips to 10mbs then falls back down slowly till its back to under 1. Something is going on, and its not ATT. My brothers 4S gets 4-5 in the same area. My wifi can not even do that.
    12-02-2011 10:21 PM
  18. Blacklac's Avatar
    It should be setup for AT&T. There's a HTC Program called Connection Setup. That should add all the AT&T fields:

    Access Point Names (APNs) | AT&T Developer Program
    Weird, I ran the HTC App and it removed the APN settings I set manually.
    12-02-2011 10:23 PM
  19. Billone's Avatar
    Using the BandWidth app...
    Data (1-3 bars): Down = .54 to 1.31 Mbps, Up = .29 to 1.07 Mbps
    Wifi: Down = 13 to 20 Mbps, Up = 1.8 to 3.9 Mbps

    Just got the Titan today. Really like it, but the data connection speed concerns me, and it seems I'm not alone. I'm in the far western Chicago suburbs, not sure if 4g is supposed to be available here.
    12-02-2011 10:26 PM
  20. TaliZorah's Avatar
    I get between 9 and 13mb down on my Radar when on 4G.

    Just ran a bunch of tests.
    12-02-2011 10:37 PM
  21. palandri's Avatar
    I get between 9 and 13mb down on my Radar when on 4G.

    Just ran a bunch of tests.
    You're on T-Mobile. :D
    12-02-2011 10:39 PM
  22. HeyCori's Avatar
    Results from Bandwidth app:

    WiFi
    Download - 9.16 Mbps
    Upload - 2.87 Mbps

    "4G" (3 bars)
    Download - 1.91 Mbps
    Upload - .65 Mbps
    12-02-2011 10:59 PM
  23. palandri's Avatar
    Using the BandWidth app...
    Data (1-3 bars): Down = .54 to 1.31 Mbps, Up = .29 to 1.07 Mbps
    Wifi: Down = 13 to 20 Mbps, Up = 1.8 to 3.9 Mbps

    Just got the Titan today. Really like it, but the data connection speed concerns me, and it seems I'm not alone. I'm in the far western Chicago suburbs, not sure if 4g is supposed to be available here.
    I am in the far western Chicago suburbs also. You should have better bandwidth than that.

    AT&T 4G LTE - Get 4G Speed with AT&T 4G LTE & 4G HSPA+
    12-02-2011 11:04 PM
  24. TaliZorah's Avatar
    You're on T-Mobile. :D
    I know, I am just showing off lol.
    12-02-2011 11:28 PM
  25. HeyCori's Avatar
    Is there a way to get into the diagnostic mode and change settings like how some people did with the Focus and NoDo?

    http://www.windowscentral.com/raise-...eed-wp7-how-to
    12-02-2011 11:43 PM
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