03-24-2012 03:31 PM
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  1. reelon's Avatar
    So far love the titan. It works great with my smart buds (microphone & button) from zagg. Everyone I've spoken haven't noticed any call issues. Really enjoying that the phone reads my text while on bluetooth and the voice commands work great. Something that I have noticed is that when I use the tunin, radio app it cuts off a lot, even on wifi. I checked that it was able to play when the screen locked, don't know how WP7.5 does multitasking, maybe that's the issue.
    03-14-2012 05:37 PM
  2. jbjtkbw007's Avatar
    I'm really liking the phone more and more each day. The network is killing me though. Once I leave the house, I'm wanting to drive straight to the nearest at&t store and return it.

    The lack of apps doesn't bother me since I know they'll grow over time like android did. The single core proc doesn't bother me since it's so smooth overall. I love the social media aspect better than my Android device as it truly integrates everything more intuitively.

    What good is all of this connectivity, integration, and potential if everything goes down the toilet when it comes to the network? Sorry if I sound frustrated but I've never seen such shoddy network performance. On Sprint, it was never this bad for me and I won't even get into VZW.

    I'm on day 6 of 30. Any words of encouragement to help me keep this this magnificent device or do I throw in the towel and hope for better luck with the Titan 2 one day?
    03-15-2012 11:22 AM
  3. lavalleema's Avatar
    What good is all of this connectivity, integration, and potential if everything goes down the toilet when it comes to the network? Sorry if I sound frustrated but I've never seen such shoddy network performance. On Sprint, it was never this bad for me and I won't even get into VZW.

    I'm on day 6 of 30. Any words of encouragement to help me keep this this magnificent device or do I throw in the towel and hope for better luck with the Titan 2 one day?
    Do you have any other devices on ATT? Do they have the same connectivity issues in your area? It sounds like you're having a network issue with the carrier - which I wouldn't think would be a problem with the phone. If another device on that carrier is working great in the same spot as you... well I'd exchange it and see if you have better luck - at that point it sounds like it could be a bad antennae.

    Ironically, I'm actually in the process of leaving Sprint due to extremely poor network performance, and going to ATT which works great in my area with devices I've previewed.

    Carriers - you have to go with whatever works best in your area. Unfortunately if that's Sprint then say hello to the HTC Arrive. (Actually a good device, just wish there were more WP7 devices on Sprint.)

    One last thing - go to settings, cellular and select "change Network Profile" and "Change PRL" -- that should force a resynch with your cell towers and update your coverage map, which may or may not help at all, but worth a try.

    Good luck!

    -M
    03-15-2012 02:52 PM
  4. Freuder's Avatar
    Good luck with it. Please do report back about your usage of the Titan including call audio quality (both ways).
    Got my Titan last week (sim free, using Vodafone UK). No call quality problems at either end. Called my landline and left a message on the voicemail so that I could hear for myself how it sounds - it's fine.
    03-15-2012 03:03 PM
  5. reelon's Avatar
    What good is all of this connectivity, integration, and potential if everything goes down the toilet when it comes to the network? Sorry if I sound frustrated but I've never seen such shoddy network performance. On Sprint, it was never this bad for me and I won't even get into VZW.

    I'm on day 6 of 30. Any words of encouragement to help me keep this this magnificent device or do I throw in the towel and hope for better luck with the Titan 2 one day?
    You are spoiled by Verizon lte, hahaha. I have been with att for a couple of years and things are getting better for me.
    03-15-2012 05:51 PM
  6. oldpueblo's Avatar
    The call quality issue to me seems pretty subjective. I mean it's a cell phone not a landline. There are so many variables that can be involved in how good the call is. Your signal at the time, is it windy out, is the other person in a noisier area, is the mic angled towards you well, does the other persons phone not have a loud earpiece, whatever.

    I just got my Mom and Dad both titans, and having talked to them on it I hear no issues at all. but I've had muffled calls on dozens of other phones across other networks randomly all the time. What quantitative evidence is there that there's an actual issue other than enough people thinking it and making it an issue? I'm not trying to be argumentative here, just trying to isolate.

    And yeah I second the advice that you just have to go with whatever carrier works best or is at least good enough. I was with Verizon and left for Sprint because I wanted the Arrive. Sprint wasn't as good of course, but they were good enough since I had the device I wanted. The 3G was pretty bad and I had some dead spots, but I wasn't hating it. Then I moved to AT&T in preparation for the 900 and it's better than Sprint. So I guess I'm lucky that the three largest carriers in my area are at the very least "good enough".
    Last edited by oldpueblo; 03-15-2012 at 06:50 PM.
    03-15-2012 06:43 PM
  7. reelon's Avatar
    ok got my first taste on the vanishing keyboard while trying to post to twitter. There was no amount of effort that could bring the keyboard back. I could this getting old fast.
    Anyone one if there is something similar to the navigation that you get in android for the wp7?
    03-15-2012 09:11 PM
  8. reelon's Avatar
    The call quality issue to me seems pretty subjective. I mean it's a cell phone not a landline. There are so many variables that can be involved in how good the call is. Your signal at the time, is it windy out, is the other person in a noisier area, is the mic angled towards you well, does the other persons phone not have a loud earpiece, whatever.

    I just got my Mom and Dad both titans, and having talked to them on it I hear no issues at all. but I've had muffled calls on dozens of other phones across other networks randomly all the time. What quantitative evidence is there that there's an actual issue other than enough people thinking it and making it an issue? I'm not trying to be argumentative here, just trying to isolate.

    And yeah I second the advice that you just have to go with whatever carrier works best or is at least good enough. I was with Verizon and left for Sprint because I wanted the Arrive. Sprint wasn't as good of course, but they were good enough since I had the device I wanted. The 3G was pretty bad and I had some dead spots, but I wasn't hating it. Then I moved to AT&T in preparation for the 900 and it's better than Sprint. So I guess I'm lucky that the three largest carriers in my area are at the very least "good enough".
    wonder if it is something that gets worst with time. I haven't had any issues with call quality, yet.
    03-15-2012 09:13 PM
  9. oldpueblo's Avatar
    Okay I just had an epiphany which may or may not make me look really dumb. I was looking for cases for my parent's Titans and I noticed something different about these two:



    One of them covers what I'm guessing are at least one noise cancelling mic. Now I'm no wizard and I can't profess to know exactly how noise cancelling works, but I'm guessing when you cover the additional mic/mics it affects call clarity? Could this be a factor on why it's worse for some and not others? Some are buying bad cases, some have no case, whatever? Tell me if I'm dumb, I'm totally okay with that.

    EDIT: Okay I just read that the antenna is built into the back of the case. I'm not sure if I'm thinking about this right but I'm guessing those holes in the case are maybe where the antenna touches the metal and gets out?
    Last edited by oldpueblo; 03-15-2012 at 10:28 PM.
    03-15-2012 10:13 PM
  10. oldpueblo's Avatar
    ok got my first taste on the vanishing keyboard while trying to post to twitter. There was no amount of effort that could bring the keyboard back. I could this getting old fast.
    Anyone one if there is something similar to the navigation that you get in android for the wp7?
    I've had the disappearing keyboard happen a few times, but nothing where it was all in a row. If you get it a lot I'd maybe take a look at what you have going on in the background. You might be able to narrow down a specific app that is possibly clashing. You can hit settings/background tasks and maybe disable some and see if it helps.

    Nokia drive is of course the best maps I believe, assuming you can figure out how to sideload it. I've heard TAMaps is also good. Spoken turn by turn is not something I use often so I can't really say.

    http://www.techautos.com/apps/tamaps/
    03-15-2012 10:19 PM
  11. steve70's Avatar
    Okay I just had an epiphany which may or may not make me look really dumb. I was looking for cases for my parent's Titans and I noticed something different about these two:

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    One of them covers what I'm guessing are at least one noise cancelling mic. Now I'm no wizard and I can't profess to know exactly how noise cancelling works, but I'm guessing when you cover the additional mic/mics it affects call clarity? Could this be a factor on why it's worse for some and not others? Some are buying bad cases, some have no case, whatever? Tell me if I'm dumb, I'm totally okay with that.
    I actually use the exact casemate w/holes on the left for work only. I get more call quality complaints when I have it on. One more reason I run it naked the rest of the time, not to mention it just feels awesome in hand.
    03-15-2012 10:28 PM
  12. oldpueblo's Avatar
    Could it really be that simple? I mean maybe its a bad design like the iphone4, but it gets a lot worse with a case on?
    03-15-2012 11:33 PM
  13. steve70's Avatar
    I don't even know anymore :/. Could even be the way I hold the phone with the case on. (epiphany moment lol) I'll have pay more attention tomorrow.
    03-16-2012 12:23 AM
  14. Neibl's Avatar
    Get a Zagg Shield and ditch the cases. You pay alot money for a phone, and then cover it in cheap cases. it makes no sense, you aren't using them for that long and dropping them isn't that bad considering how many times it happens over a 2 year period (it's a single digit and on one hand for me).

    I like to show the beauty of the device, and it tends to make it more comfy to use and more accessible to use. I've dropped my phones many times with the zagg shields and if they are put on with care, they are the best protection you could ask for. That is my suggestion if the case seems to be the problem.
    03-16-2012 10:56 AM
  15. steve70's Avatar
    I, myself don't use a phone more than a year tops. Zagg would be good if you do. I don't even like having shields on my device. I work in a construction environment on only like to use a case temporarily while I'm there to protect the camera since it protrudes. I agree, it feels better in hand w/out a case. I also haven't ever sold a phone I've purchased so long term condition isn't a factor for me. They definitely are worth checking out.

    Sent from my TiTaN WP7 using Board Express
    03-16-2012 11:38 AM
  16. reelon's Avatar
    OK, made a phone call to the answering machine at the house to compare the titan and the galaxy. The called from the titan was muffled compared to the one on the galaxy. It was like listening to an fm radio in mono and then in stereo, but both were easy to understand. Not a deal breaker for me, testing will continue.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using Tapatalk
    03-16-2012 01:17 PM
  17. reelon's Avatar
    Get a Zagg Shield and ditch the cases. You pay alot money for a phone, and then cover it in cheap cases. it makes no sense, you aren't using them for that long and dropping them isn't that bad considering how many times it happens over a 2 year period (it's a single digit and on one hand for me).

    I like to show the beauty of the device, and it tends to make it more comfy to use and more accessible to use. I've dropped my phones many times with the zagg shields and if they are put on with care, they are the best protection you could ask for. That is my suggestion if the case seems to be the problem.
    I agree with you on the case situation.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using Tapatalk
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    03-16-2012 01:19 PM
  18. reelon's Avatar
    Anyone knows if using a white theme consumes more battery than using a dark theme on the LCD display of the titan.
    03-17-2012 11:24 PM
  19. palandri's Avatar
    Anyone knows if using a white theme consumes more battery than using a dark theme on the LCD display of the titan.
    I have always read that it does. I've never noticed more battery drain with either a white or black theme, to be honest.
    03-17-2012 11:26 PM
  20. Rocket_Girl's Avatar
    I'm really liking the phone more and more each day. The network is killing me though. Once I leave the house, I'm wanting to drive straight to the nearest at&t store and return it.

    The lack of apps doesn't bother me since I know they'll grow over time like android did. The single core proc doesn't bother me since it's so smooth overall. I love the social media aspect better than my Android device as it truly integrates everything more intuitively.

    What good is all of this connectivity, integration, and potential if everything goes down the toilet when it comes to the network? Sorry if I sound frustrated but I've never seen such shoddy network performance. On Sprint, it was never this bad for me and I won't even get into VZW.

    I'm on day 6 of 30. Any words of encouragement to help me keep this this magnificent device or do I throw in the towel and hope for better luck with the Titan 2 one day?

    I was with VZW for years (Blackberry...Droid Pro... Trophy), then switched to at&t with the penny sale on Windows phones @ Thanksgiving. Went through 3 Titans (multiple issues including, but not limited to call quality). Ended my 30-day window w/ Samsung Focus S.

    Liked the Samsung phone, but had connectivity problems. In early 2012, had to get iPhone, and now have 4s. Never wanted iPhone, never expected to like it, but I LOVE it.

    However, not loving the at&t network. We are now HSPA+ (good) - yet I not infrequently get "no service" indicator... or Edge... or one little teeny bar. In more than 10 yrs w/ Verizon, never had a problem - here or while traveling *anywhere*. I am often in convention centers / hotel conf centers where at&t has no signal and Verizon is fine. On every break, people are comparing their signals and borrowing phones.

    I am regretting the move to at&t. When NEXT iPhone drops, I will be back w/ Verizon. Having tried the alternative, I will be back and happy to stay there for a while.

    For what its worth, hope it helps to have more info from n of 1!
    03-18-2012 04:47 PM
  21. reelon's Avatar
    Ok, today some people stated they had some trouble hearing me on the phone. Is that an indication of the troubles of the call quality problem? Because if it is I would rather return the phone and hang to galaxy s2 until the lumina 900 comes out. Will continue to use during the day and see.
    03-19-2012 09:41 AM
  22. jbjtkbw007's Avatar
    I was with VZW for years (Blackberry...Droid Pro... Trophy), then switched to at&t with the penny sale on Windows phones @ Thanksgiving. Went through 3 Titans (multiple issues including, but not limited to call quality). Ended my 30-day window w/ Samsung Focus S.

    Liked the Samsung phone, but had connectivity problems. In early 2012, had to get iPhone, and now have 4s. Never wanted iPhone, never expected to like it, but I LOVE it.

    However, not loving the at&t network. We are now HSPA+ (good) - yet I not infrequently get "no service" indicator... or Edge... or one little teeny bar. In more than 10 yrs w/ Verizon, never had a problem - here or while traveling *anywhere*. I am often in convention centers / hotel conf centers where at&t has no signal and Verizon is fine. On every break, people are comparing their signals and borrowing phones.

    I am regretting the move to at&t. When NEXT iPhone drops, I will be back w/ Verizon. Having tried the alternative, I will be back and happy to stay there for a while.

    For what its worth, hope it helps to have more info from n of 1!
    I did end up returning it. The guy at the store wanted to debate me on what I should have been getting network wise (he stated around 6-8MB) and I showed him the speed tests to prove otherwise. I think what most put me off about the rep was that he didn't offer any suggestions, a possible exchange for another device to try out, or make any true effort to retain me. I told him how much I truly LOVED this device and when the Titan II comes out, I'll be all over that like a spider monkey. He just processed the return, refunded my .01, and that was that.

    Orlando is a 4G LTE market. I want that Titan II badly. Can't wait to get back to this device. I may even port my number and become a more permanent resident on AT&T, provided I can get some decent network speeds and they don't allow it to deteriorate like they did in the past.

    Still going to keep reading all of your posts and updates on here, because I'm really sold on WP7. Solid OS, smooth, and growing. That's the biggest part for me.
    03-19-2012 10:30 AM
  23. reelon's Avatar
    I did end up returning it. The guy at the store wanted to debate me on what I should have been getting network wise (he stated around 6-8MB) and I showed him the speed tests to prove otherwise. I think what most put me off about the rep was that he didn't offer any suggestions, a possible exchange for another device to try out, or make any true effort to retain me. I told him how much I truly LOVED this device and when the Titan II comes out, I'll be all over that like a spider monkey. He just processed the return, refunded my .01, and that was that.

    Orlando is a 4G LTE market. I want that Titan II badly. Can't wait to get back to this device. I may even port my number and become a more permanent resident on AT&T, provided I can get some decent network speeds and they don't allow it to deteriorate like they did in the past.

    Still going to keep reading all of your posts and updates on here, because I'm really sold on WP7. Solid OS, smooth, and growing. That's the biggest part for me.
    6-8 seems high to me. I guess more around the 2-4 range.
    03-19-2012 10:55 AM
  24. reelon's Avatar
    Well, returned the titan. It was a good try, really enjoyed wp7. I just couldn't risk the call problems everyone seems to be having. I returned to my galaxy s2, but I will look at the nokia 900 when it comes out, nokia drive seems like a good replacement for google navigation and the 5 gb throttling speeds for my unlimited data plan.
    03-22-2012 10:09 AM
  25. jbjtkbw007's Avatar
    Well, returned the titan. It was a good try, really enjoyed wp7. I just couldn't risk the call problems everyone seems to be having. I returned to my galaxy s2, but I will look at the nokia 900 when it comes out, nokia drive seems like a good replacement for google navigation and the 5 gb throttling speeds for my unlimited data plan.
    Other than the call quality, was there anything else you didn't like?
    03-22-2012 07:31 PM
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