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  1. Biased123's Avatar
    Well said.

    BTW, I'm a MS employee (I work on Windows, not Phone) who preordered and haven't heard anything new today...

    I'm extremely stoked about the excitement in these forums for our platform. Thanks everyone for your patience, keep up the enthusiasm. I hope we can keep rocking this platform and meeting all of our expectatinos. I've been forwarding these threads and issues reported by users to my engineering friends in Phone, trust me, we are listening....
    A few things I have learned about the offer:

    Release is imminent and MS employess will be notifed prior to release... whatever that means.

    You will have to sign up for another 2 year contract when you buy the phone which means you won't be eligible for a upgrade until May/June 2013.

    Not cool...
    05-17-2011 05:02 PM
  2. Wireless Vet's Avatar
    I take it all back.
    -Your love for all things droid.
    -You call them "Windows 7 Phones"
    -Lack of knowledge/apathy for WP7.
    -No idea when it will release.

    It all proves you work for Verizon. You even spelled it wrong in your own forums.
    Windows Phone Discussions - Verizon Wireless Community
    http //community.vzw.com/t5/Windows-Phone-Discussions/bd-p/GeneralWindowns
    ^
    Windowns - what are you trying to say, Verizon?
    Ahhh, the old jab for a misspelling. Always the sign of a class act.
    05-17-2011 05:08 PM
  3. Wireless Vet's Avatar
    I highly doubt many people outside of the executive offices know much about the release of the Trophy. It's a bit puzzling that nothing concrete has leaked to this point, especially if we're looking at a 19th/26th release. Wireless Vet obviously isn't a high level exec privy to any more information than most people with a friend at Verizon are. At least he's giving us more information than we have, even if it's creating more pie-in-the-sky hopes. ;)
    That's spot on. While enthusiasts such as yourselves are getting over excited over pre release info, life goes on in the trenches.
    05-17-2011 05:16 PM
  4. Gungzwei's Avatar
    If I was going to pretend to be something I'm not, I sure as **** would come up with something more elaborate then being a wireless sales rep.
    Ahhh, the old jab for a misspelling. Always the sign of a class act.

    You have a penchant for arguing with the customer, too. Not really good phone skills when dealing with customers.

    Of all the valid points others in this forum have come up with, the only one you respond to is my jab. Why don't you respond to those, because I can stay down here at your level all day.

    You really aren't winning Verizon points here.
    05-17-2011 05:35 PM
  5. Gungzwei's Avatar
    That's spot on. While enthusiasts such as yourselves are getting over excited over pre release info, life goes on in the trenches.
    You claim all kinds of calls for the Xperia Play, but go look at the sister site - Droidcentral.com.

    There are very few post about the device. The thread with the most views is questioning if the device will even be any good.
    05-17-2011 05:37 PM
  6. Biased123's Avatar
    I emailed a Verizon Wireless rep today regarding the MS offer for the Trophy:

    Here is the OOOF message I got back:

    "I will be in business meetings most of the day with reduced responsiveness to email but will reply as soon as possible. If this matter is urgent, please call my Windows Phone 7 device at [omitted]. Thank you."

    Irony if you ask me...

    Hopefully they are all in a pre-release workshop to iron out everything... hahahha
    05-17-2011 05:41 PM
  7. Wireless Vet's Avatar
    You have a penchant for arguing with the customer, too. Not really good phone skills when dealing with customers.

    Of all the valid points others in this forum have come up with, the only one you respond to is my jab. Why don't you respond to those, because I can stay down here at your level all day.

    You really aren't winning Verizon points here.
    There's one point to make that I made back at the start of this thread, and that is there has never been an official date released by Verizon Wireless. To this day, there has been no announcement. So you are all getting hard ons over speculatory dates, photos, etc, and that's on you. All of this over a phone.
    05-17-2011 05:49 PM
  8. Biased123's Avatar
    You claim all kinds of calls for the Xperia Play, but go look at the sister site - Droidcentral.com.

    There are very few post about the device. The thread with the most views is questioning if the device will even be any good.
    GO look on the Verizon Wireless Boards...

    If you search for the term XPERIA you get 30 threads...

    If you search for Trophy.. imagine that.. you get 60 threads...

    Phone calls are one thing... a post on their own site is another...
    Gungzwei and malachijd like this.
    05-17-2011 05:52 PM
  9. Biased123's Avatar
    There's one point to make that I made back at the start of this thread, and that is there has never been an official date released by Verizon Wireless. To this day, there has been no announcement. So you are all getting hard ons over speculatory dates, photos, etc, and that's on you. All of this over a phone.
    Sorry but I beg to differ....

    "Early 2011"

    Go see for yourself... notice the URL...

    https://forums.windowscentral.com/e?...token=cTL6zEOd

    While I understand that is not an exact date. It is also a lie.
    05-17-2011 05:55 PM
  10. jonsmith89's Avatar
    All of this over a phone.
    I think you may be in the wrong business.

    To come onto a Windows PHONE forum and tell Verizon customers that are getting excited about a VERIZON phone (officially announced or not) that they are stupid for doing so is... well, stupid.

    I'm not a Verizon customer, which makes me feel lucky from following this thread, but just from how this whole situation has been handled puts a bad taste in my mouth about Verizon. I'm in no way affiliated with AT&T but I have been with them for 5+ years with absolutely zero problems. If you have decent reception in your area, go for it, and grab a WP7 device from them. ****, just try it out for the 30 days.
    05-17-2011 06:13 PM
  11. camaroguy's Avatar
    I think you may be in the wrong business.

    To come onto a Windows PHONE forum and tell Verizon customers that are getting excited about a VERIZON phone (officially announced or not) that they are stupid for doing so is... well, stupid.

    I'm not a Verizon customer, which makes me feel lucky from following this thread, but just from how this whole situation has been handled puts a bad taste in my mouth about Verizon. I'm in no way affiliated with AT&T but I have been with them for 5+ years with absolutely zero problems. If you have decent reception in your area, go for it, and grab a WP7 device from them. ****, just try it out for the 30 days.
    I am doing exactly this right now. Tested both carriers out on an 800 mile road trip last weekend and found that while Verizon had only a slight edge on overall coverage it was nowhere near as great a difference as I expected. To be fair the 3g coverage on Verizon wins outright with no contest. That said, when the ATT phone had coverage, it seemed like a stronger signal than Verizon almost always. Also ATT's 3g speeds seemed slightly faster though this is hard to measure for sure on such differing devices.

    The fact that I can get quite a bit more (service wise) for less money monthly, and the focus is now only $49 is making the decision on whether or not to stay with Verizon extremely diffcult. I think overall the Focus is a better phone (nicer camera with more settings, weighs almost nothing, 4" screen, super amoled, sd slot, etc), which is also making the decision HARD. I may just switch and keep an old verizon phone for hikes/biking trips in case I need to dial 911.
    05-17-2011 06:30 PM
  12. JAStark27's Avatar
    Yeah I dont know about going to AT&T. Bought a focus off ebay, went into the store to get a sim card and activate it and they run a credit check and tell me i would have to pay a $500 deposit. When I get a credit check through Verizon they tell me $125. Credit may not be the best but the difference is ridiculous. If there coverage isn't the problem its this kind of stuff that is. Going to have to sell the focus now cause there is no way im paying $500. Plus was told I can't do a pre-paid plan with that phone.
    Last edited by JAStark27; 05-17-2011 at 06:50 PM.
    05-17-2011 06:37 PM
  13. jonsmith89's Avatar
    I don't see why there is a need for a credit check if you'll be paying month to month they'll have you pre-billed paying a month in advance. Try selecting a sim card and picking a plan online and see what happens.

    I've had a rep try to get me into a 2 year contract without my knowing of it before. This may have been the case for you. I've learned to never trust an AT&T salesman again; and to do all of my business online or be sure to know exactly what they are doing.
    Last edited by sooshe; 05-17-2011 at 06:55 PM. Reason: addition
    05-17-2011 06:50 PM
  14. JAStark27's Avatar
    I don't see why there is a need for a credit check if you'll be paying month to month they'll have you pre-billed paying a month in advance. Try selecting a sim card and picking a plan online and see what happens.

    I've had a rep try to get me into a 2 year contract without my knowing of it before. This may have been the case for you. I've learned to never trust an AT&T salesman again; and to do all of my business online or be sure to know exactly what they are doing.
    where would I go on there site? cant find out how to activate or anything without them asking for a #
    and are you talking about pre-paid sim card or a regular one
    05-17-2011 06:59 PM
  15. camaroguy's Avatar
    I am pretty sure the credit check has nothing to do with the contract. Its more about if you racked up a huge bill (overages) and then walked w/out paying it. They cannot bill you in advance for overages.
    05-17-2011 07:04 PM
  16. JAStark27's Avatar
    weird thing is they tell me i couldn't put a prepaid plan on that phone cause its not a gophone but i have seen people on here say that they have pre-paid with this phone so idk if I should go and get a pre-paid card or not
    05-17-2011 07:07 PM
  17. coolduderedux's Avatar
    Sorry but I beg to differ....

    "Early 2011"

    Go see for yourself... notice the URL...

    https://forums.windowscentral.com/e?...token=jZ0_umDw

    While I understand that is not an exact date. It is also a lie.
    ITT people discover that dates are subject to change.

    Anywho, what's the likely hood of this phone receiving calls while on the internet? Is it completely a CDMA thing where that's impossible or not? Because I have a Samsung Reality and I can be surfing the web and still get texts/calls.
    05-17-2011 07:09 PM
  18. jonsmith89's Avatar
    Cell Phone Plans, Data Plans, Family Plans, & Prepaid Plans - Wireless from AT&T

    Choose your plan, pick a sim card for your device (at the bottom of the devices page), pick your extra services and checkout. It's worth a shot before you sell it back.

    That makes sense about overages.
    05-17-2011 07:14 PM
  19. camaroguy's Avatar
    ITT people discover that dates are subject to change.

    Anywho, what's the likely hood of this phone receiving calls while on the internet? Is it completely a CDMA thing where that's impossible or not? Because I have a Samsung Reality and I can be surfing the web and still get texts/calls.
    The issue is not that you miss a call/text when on the data connection, its that you cannot simultaneously do both. The call/text will disconnect your data session and then come through.

    The thing ATT touts about actually talking while surfing seems like something that would very rarely get used.
    05-17-2011 07:14 PM
  20. coolduderedux's Avatar
    The issue is not that you miss a call/text when on the data connection, its that you cannot simultaneously do both. The call/text will disconnect your data session and then come through.

    The thing ATT touts about actually talking while surfing seems like something that would very rarely get used.
    When my friend is using her Droid Eris on Cricket, she cannot receive calls while she's on the web; she only gets texts. On my phone, I can get both and go back to where I left off on the web. Obviously my phone isn't able to do both. I just want to be sure that I can be surfing or getting live updates and I can still get calls and texts normally if/when I get the Trophy.
    05-17-2011 07:18 PM
  21. camaroguy's Avatar
    When my friend is using her Droid Eris on Cricket, she cannot receive calls while she's on the web; she only gets texts. On my phone, I can get both and go back to where I left off on the web. Obviously my phone isn't able to do both. I just want to be sure that I can be surfing or getting live updates and I can still get calls and texts normally if/when I get the Trophy.
    Never used any of the droids, but every winmo device I have had did what you expect, I don't see why the wp7 device wouldn't do the same. That said, I have obviously not tried it out, so I can't say 100%. I would say im about 98% sure :)
    05-17-2011 07:30 PM
  22. Gungzwei's Avatar
    There's one point to make that I made back at the start of this thread, and that is there has never been an official date released by Verizon Wireless. To this day, there has been no announcement. So you are all getting hard ons over speculatory dates, photos, etc, and that's on you. All of this over a phone.
    Sounds like Waycoolkennel had it exactly right
    "VZW: If I want your opinion... I'll give it to you."

    So, wireless vet. Maybe you can point us to Verizon's official policy on how much of a "hard on" we are supposed to get over a phone. (I hope you have included a guide for the ladies, as well.)

    That's spot on. While enthusiasts such as yourselves are getting over excited over pre release info, life goes on in the trenches. .

    If we are "over excited" over this, maybe there is an official Verizon guide tell us what level of excitment is allowed for a Verizon device?

    -I'm sure we are over exited for WP7.
    -Probably just exited enough for iPhruit.
    -Not exited enough for a Droid.
    05-17-2011 09:04 PM
  23. jdelroyc's Avatar
    What I'm curious about is the cause of the "delays." Is it because they're still testing it? Is a lack of supply? Is it because they don't feel it can compete during this particular launch window?
    05-17-2011 10:42 PM
  24. malachijd's Avatar
    Wow you guys went crazy while I was at work. Just to add my 2 cents. I just got off the phone with a very helpful sales person (someone on another line on my account got an iphone) and she said they don't have a release date for the trophy but she would call me when she knew something. So here's hoping I don't have to wait to long before hearing from them. Plus she said she would give me an upgrade on my line which is still 2 months away from the early upgrade. I was just going to use a different line's upgrade for me to get a trophy
    05-17-2011 11:39 PM
  25. jimski's Avatar
    The issue is not that you miss a call/text when on the data connection, its that you cannot simultaneously do both. The call/text will disconnect your data session and then come through.



    The thing ATT touts about actually talking while surfing seems like something that would very rarely get used.
    Dunno, today I was typing a comment to these forums with Board Express Pro when a call came in. Spoke for 5 minutes and when the call was over, my cousins face faded away and the cursor was still blinking in the same place on my post. I like that. And I have been online for about 25% of my incoming calls.

    Sent from my HTC Surround using Board Express
    05-18-2011 12:37 AM
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