05-30-2011 08:26 AM
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  1. Adiliyo's Avatar
    weird thing is they tell me i couldn't put a prepaid plan on that phone cause its not a gophone but i have seen people on here say that they have pre-paid with this phone so idk if I should go and get a pre-paid card or not
    you can 100% use a prepaid sim with the phone, just go to the att store and ask for one, then add data/text plans and have them fill in 1's for the imei (i'm pretty sure entering the actual phone's imei won't cause any problems but i didn't have it with me when i went to get the sim so they just put a string of 1's in)

    they said that data might not work with it since it wasn't one of the go phones, but the salesman and i both agreed that it really should work fine, since data is data.

    for the short time my focus worked (there was an issue with the sim reader contacts, so it's at samsung getting fixed) it worked perfectly fine with calls/text/data.

    Dunno, today I was typing a comment to these forums with Board Express Pro when a call came in. Spoke for 5 minutes and when the call was over, my cousins face faded away and the cursor was still blinking in the same place on my post. I like that. And I have been online for about 25% of my incoming calls.

    Sent from my HTC Surround using Board Express
    the problem isn't that it will close your data connection in the sense that everything data related gets shut down, but that you can't utilize the 1x network and the evdo network at the same time, which is a CDMA limitation, which means ANY phone on verizon's network cannot use the phone/texts which use the 1x radio and data which uses the EVDO radio at the same time.

    try pushing the post or send button on a forum post, or click or try to open a webpage while on the phone or when receiving a text, the phone (any phone) will freak out, and either the text will fail, or your data connection will not work (ie, page will not load)

    if you are on wifi however, then (obviously) it will be fine since the phone isn't utilizing the evdo radio.

    GSM networks don't have this limitation, and while i don't find it to really be a big deal at all, i'd say about 30% of my friends who have att say they find it to come in handy quite often, so it really depends on your usage pattern as to whether or not it will be a big feature for you or not.
    05-18-2011 01:00 AM
  2. Polychrome's Avatar
    From what I understand, the main problem is that 1x is technically a 3G technology, not a 2G as many believe. The 2G networks died when analog service was discontinued. (Think of it like 3G in its infancy.) I've heard people on tech blogs say voice/data simultaneously will be available in the future, but IMO, it'll probably involve some sort of voip solution, which brings us to...

    Simultaneous CDMA/LTE *can* be done due to having multiple technologies in the same phone. I dunno of any Winmo phones coming out that have LTE, but I suppose they'll be in the works soon if they aren't already.

    For what it's worth, I've never found myself needing internet on my phone while talking on it. The only thing I really grab for when talking on the phone is my calendar to be honest. :P I do enough browsing while on the phone at work while looking up answers to obscure android issues, so I guess I just have no desire to do it during personal "me" time.

    If you really need voice/data at the same time, there's always existing VoIP like skype. Just make sure whoever's on the other end has it too.
    05-18-2011 05:54 AM
  3. Pack34's Avatar
    Hopefully we hear something at the Mango event on Tuesday. Afterall, the background in the invite is red and the phone does look similar to the Trophy.
    05-18-2011 07:07 AM
  4. jdelroyc's Avatar
    Sony Experia coming May 19th. No other word on any other intros.
    Looks like the Droid X2 was officially announced today...for online release tomorrow. Guess there's a sliver of hope.
    05-18-2011 09:29 AM
  5. danielgary's Avatar
    Looks like the Droid X2 was officially announced today...for online release tomorrow. Guess there's a sliver of hope.
    That was my thought. If stores are not getting them in stock, I am predicting a similar situation with the Trophy. Online ordering tomorrow, general availability next Thursday.
    05-18-2011 09:33 AM
  6. Sakic26's Avatar
    That was my thought. If stores are not getting them in stock, I am predicting a similar situation with the Trophy. Online ordering tomorrow, general availability next Thursday.
    The Droid kind of seems like their "baby" so I don't foresee them doing a joint release. Sad, I know
    05-18-2011 09:34 AM
  7. jdelroyc's Avatar
    Would seem like a good way to go. Allow the in-store employees who haven't received training (such as our forum-mate Wireless Vet) to do so, and those who are already informed can make a purchase online.
    05-18-2011 09:36 AM
  8. danielgary's Avatar
    The Droid kind of seems like their "baby" so I don't foresee them doing a joint release. Sad, I know
    They are already doing a joint release with the XPERIA Play.

    And a few weeks ago it was rumored that the DX2, XPERIA Play, and Trophy would all release on the same day.
    05-18-2011 09:39 AM
  9. Gungzwei's Avatar
    They are already doing a joint release with the XPERIA Play.

    And a few weeks ago it was rumored that the DX2, XPERIA Play, and Trophy would all release on the same day.
    One of the leaked date sheets also showed the Tropy on the same date as the Samsung Charge, so I don't think Verizon is too concerned about multiple releases.

    Something else is blocking the Trophy.
    05-18-2011 10:28 AM
  10. Vallos's Avatar
    Something else is blocking the Trophy.
    I'm starting to believe that it's a combination of new hardware (SLCD, I hope), Verizon's strict QC and the upcoming Mango event.
    05-18-2011 10:30 AM
  11. Wireless Vet's Avatar
    Would seem like a good way to go. Allow the in-store employees who haven't received training (such as our forum-mate Wireless Vet) to do so, and those who are already informed can make a purchase online.

    We've received web based training on the OS. Today, we are actually training on the Trophy itself. I should have lots of info by mid afternoon that I most certainly will pass on.
    05-18-2011 10:53 AM
  12. jdelroyc's Avatar
    We've received web based training on the OS. Today, we are actually training on the Trophy itself. I should have lots of info by mid afternoon that I most certainly will pass on.
    Excellent, much appreciated! If no release date is discussed, a clarification of specs would be greatly appreciated. We've been seeing LCD vs. S-LCD screen, 8GB vs. 16GB, etc. It would be nice to know exactly what this phone will offer.
    05-18-2011 10:57 AM
  13. Vallos's Avatar
    WV, now that you're playing with the OS, can you give your thoughts on it?
    05-18-2011 11:00 AM
  14. Wireless Vet's Avatar
    WV, now that you're playing with the OS, can you give your thoughts on it?

    I haven't played with it at all..training is this afternoon.
    05-18-2011 11:03 AM
  15. keithnet's Avatar
    We've been seeing LCD vs. S-LCD screen, 8GB vs. 16GB, etc. It would be nice to know exactly what this phone will offer.
    Verizon sent one of my clients a testing unit last week. I've been playing with it today. It's 16GB and screen quality seems just like my incredible with s-lcd, so I'd bet it's s-lcd. Not sure how to tell exactly just by using the phone.

    -Keith
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    05-18-2011 11:03 AM
  16. Vallos's Avatar
    I haven't played with it at all..training is this afternoon.
    Sorry, I meant to say, when you're going to play with it.
    05-18-2011 11:06 AM
  17. Gungzwei's Avatar
    Just one more reason to wait for the Verizon WP7 and not jump on the droid cool-aid wagon.

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    05-18-2011 12:08 PM
  18. Khensu's Avatar
    I can't wait to be able to come to this website for something other than the latest Trophy\Verizon rumors.
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    05-18-2011 12:29 PM
  19. Gungzwei's Avatar
    I can't wait to be able to come to this website for something other than the latest Trophy\Verizon rumors.
    I'm totally with you on that. I'd be awfully nice to read the app reviews because i'm looking to add to a device I actually own.
    05-18-2011 12:40 PM
  20. WayCool's Avatar
    Just cause I couldnt take it anymore....

    Windows Phone 7…. Where are you Verizon ? Way Cool Kennel's Blog !

    Bloody Verizon.. so tired ...
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    05-18-2011 12:57 PM
  21. Biased123's Avatar
    Just cause I couldnt take it anymore....

    Windows Phone 7. Where are you Verizon ? Way Cool Kennel's Blog !

    Bloody Verizon.. so tired ...
    This reminded me to do my daily tweet @ @VerizonWireless... Thanks.
    05-18-2011 01:14 PM
  22. camaroguy's Avatar
    Verizon sent one of my clients a testing unit last week. I've been playing with it today. It's 16GB and screen quality seems just like my incredible with s-lcd, so I'd bet it's s-lcd. Not sure how to tell exactly just by using the phone.

    -Keith
    Yes this is correct. It has been plainly stated many times by Verizon that the Verizon version will have 16gb, the only confusion is when people don't know the difference between the European phone and the Verizon one.

    As far as I have heard, the european version of the phone also got an SLCD upgrade about a month after it released, so there is no reason to expect the Verizon one would not have SLCD as well. There is no "hardware upgrade" problem here with the screen. There may be issues with the cdma + gsm radios causing hold ups though. Wouldn't be nice if Verizon just told us what the deal was?
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    05-18-2011 01:14 PM
  23. jdelroyc's Avatar
    Here's hoping Wireless Vet has some juicy info for us ;)
    I've been following some stuff on Twitter about the Trophy not coming with NoDo installed...How is that even possible? It's required for CDMA isn't it?
    Last edited by jdelroyc; 05-18-2011 at 02:27 PM.
    05-18-2011 02:20 PM
  24. danielgary's Avatar
    Here's hoping Wireless Vet has some juicy info for us ;)
    I've been following some stuff on Twitter about the Trophy not coming with NoDo installed...How is that even possible? It's required for CDMA isn't it?
    I don't believe the post on Twitter about no NoDo. He also makes mention of it being extremely light. All the reviews I read said the Trophy had a nice weight to it.

    And yes, NoDo is required for CDMA.
    05-18-2011 02:31 PM
  25. keithnet's Avatar
    I've been following some stuff on Twitter about the Trophy not coming with NoDo installed...How is that even possible? It's required for CDMA isn't it?
    Simply untrue. The phone I'm playing with has 7355. Copy and Paste works fine, for example.
    05-18-2011 02:53 PM
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