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  1. Khensu's Avatar
    Maybe he meant SLCD... *Crosses Fingers* - Maybe it just looked bad because they forced them back down to a 16bit color depth and will be going back to 32bit with Mango.

    You’re Doing It Wrong: Microsoft Purposely Gimps HTC WP7 Devices With 16-Bit Color In NoDo.
    05-18-2011 05:56 PM
  2. Adiliyo's Avatar
    That wasn't discussed, and i was busy taking notes for all of you LOL
    take better notes! ;)
    05-18-2011 05:56 PM
  3. swantonsoup's Avatar
    I dont think having flash should be considered a "feature." Its just like what Apple did with iOS. Flash on mobile devices is an awful experience, kills the battery, and uses entirely too many resources. I am glad they chose not to support flash; it will be a better user experience.

    The web is going away from flash and the iOS push has even helped HTML5 efforts.

    I hope it is SLCD. I'm still hoping it is.

    4G isn't too big of a deal for me. Most place I go will have wifi anyway.
    05-18-2011 05:56 PM
  4. Wireless Vet's Avatar
    HTC has phased out all normal LCD screens and SLCD is now standard on all HTC phones so the only explanation is the one that you were being trained on was an old model. The Trophy Verizon will get will have SLCD. Thanks for the date though.
    Ok, I specifically asked and the answer was LCD and I'm currently waiting for HTC to email me back confirming or denying it
    05-18-2011 05:56 PM
  5. Adiliyo's Avatar
    I dont think having flash should be considered a "feature." Its just like what Apple did with iOS. Flash on mobile devices is an awful experience, kills the battery, and uses entirely too many resources. I am glad they chose not to support flash; it will be a better user experience.

    The web is going away from flash and the iOS push has even helped HTML5 efforts.

    I hope it is SLCD. I'm still hoping it is.

    4G isn't too big of a deal for me. Most place I go will have wifi anyway.
    i agree with the flash sentiment, it was never all that fantastic of an experience on my android phones that could support it, and with the html5 push going on, i'll take the hardware accelerated browser that is in mango over flash any day.
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    05-18-2011 05:58 PM
  6. swantonsoup's Avatar
    i agree with the flash sentiment, it was never all that fantastic of an experience on my android phones that could support it, and with the html5 push going on, i'll take the hardware accelerated browser that is in mango over flash any day.
    Hahah you saw that demo too? That looks incredible.

    I'm sick of comparisons between the iPhone and Thunderbolt and people saying Thunderbolt gets an edge because it has Flash.
    05-18-2011 06:00 PM
  7. egret85's Avatar
    Exactly. Besides, I'll be transitioning from a Touch Pro 2, so it won't take much to please me.
    Same here, can't wait. I think I'm going to burn the Touch Pro 2 once I get the Trophy. No one should ever be put through the torture of having to use the TP2.
    05-18-2011 06:03 PM
  8. thed's Avatar
    This is not a personal attack, this is not meant to offend; I hope it ends up being everything you all wanted. Overall, I'm not impressed
    If you're referring to the OS, I think it will be. I've tried all the major smartphone OSs and WP was the most impressive to me. I'm also a software dev and IMO the WP dev tools are miles above anything else. Different OSs for different people, I suppose.

    Anyway, thanks for your hope and for the info! :)
    05-18-2011 06:07 PM
  9. waywardsuns's Avatar
    what makes the TP2 so bad?
    05-18-2011 06:07 PM
  10. tacticalcrono's Avatar
    Same here, can't wait. I think I'm going to burn the Touch Pro 2 once I get the Trophy. No one should ever be put through the torture of having to use the TP2.
    I'm coming from an original HTC TouchPro, and I fully agree with you. Contract has been up for a year, been wating on WP7 ever since.
    05-18-2011 06:09 PM
  11. egret85's Avatar
    what makes the TP2 so bad?
    SLOW and Locks up constantly.
    05-18-2011 06:12 PM
  12. Adiliyo's Avatar
    Hahah you saw that demo too? That looks incredible.

    I'm sick of comparisons between the iPhone and Thunderbolt and people saying Thunderbolt gets an edge because it has Flash.
    yea, the demo was awesome!

    ie9 in general is quite nice, i've almost completely transitioned away from chrome in 3 out of 4 of my computers.
    05-18-2011 06:13 PM
  13. Grubish360's Avatar
    I'm coming from a Samsung Trance, if you don't know what that is I can provide a link: samsung trance red - Bing Images

    Anyways, this will be my first smartphone so anything is better then the dumb-phone I have been using. I hope you're right about HTC only using SLCD now.

    And thanks Wireless Vet for consistently providing information with your company's customers. Very appreciated.
    Last edited by Grubish360; 05-18-2011 at 07:33 PM.
    05-18-2011 06:14 PM
  14. Polychrome's Avatar
    SLOW and Locks up constantly.
    Disable all the proprietary crud and it runs like a dream. (Can't tell you how often I've had that call...) I don't like HTCs extra UIs, whether we're talking Winmo or Android. I think half the problem is a mere two years ago they were highly praised for that sort of thing.

    Now what's really tough is if you have an Omnia 2 like me, where Samsung went in and used the registry to lock you out of disabling most of the crud. LOL A little research clears that right up.
    05-18-2011 06:26 PM
  15. egret85's Avatar
    Disable all the proprietary crud and it runs like a dream. (Can't tell you how often I've had that call...) I don't like HTCs extra UIs, whether we're talking Winmo or Android. I think half the problem is a mere two years ago they were highly praised for that sort of thing.

    Now what's really tough is if you have an Omnia 2 like me, where Samsung went in and used the registry to lock you out of disabling most of the crud. LOL A little research clears that right up.
    Already Have a custom ROM without ANY HTC extras. Still SLOW. Especially when using messaging.
    05-18-2011 06:39 PM
  16. Vallos's Avatar
    IT HAS TO in order to support CDMA, its been said a million times....YES.
    Yes, I know that it will have it and that it was said a million times, but that doesn't stop people from speculating nonetheless. It doens't hurt to say it 1,000,001 times, right?
    05-18-2011 06:39 PM
  17. Polychrome's Avatar
    Already Have a custom ROM without ANY HTC extras. Still SLOW. Especially when using messaging.
    Can't help you there, then. I'd be checking into other roms. (And deleting old messages, since all phone OSes have trouble when those are left alone too long.)
    05-18-2011 06:40 PM
  18. camaroguy's Avatar
    Yes, I know that it will have it and that it was said a million times, but that doesn't stop people from speculating nonetheless. It doens't hurt to say it 1,000,001 times, right?
    No, it doesn't "hurt", but I think the official rule is: For each successive time its stated after the millionth, we must add all caps to more and more words ;)
    05-18-2011 06:50 PM
  19. Vallos's Avatar
    Hey, so long as they get the message, I'm with you!
    05-18-2011 06:54 PM
  20. EJNelly's Avatar
    Same here, can't wait. I think I'm going to burn the Touch Pro 2 once I get the Trophy. No one should ever be put through the torture of having to use the TP2.
    Yeah, I have the same sentiment with the Env3. I decided a while back I was going to introduce it to the hammer.

    I'm also pretty certain HTC has been upgrading all their phones to SLCD. I would be surprised if they use LCD in the Trophy. I would speculate that 16 bit color is the reason for the lack of vibrancy in the screen.
    05-18-2011 07:06 PM
  21. Biased123's Avatar
    I'm coming from a Samsung Trance, if you don't know what that is I can provide a link: samsung trance red - Bing Images

    Anyways, this will be my first smartphone so anything is better then the dumb-phone I have been using. I hope you're right about HTC only using SLCD now.

    And thanks for consistently providing information with your companies customers. Very appreciated.
    I am in the same boat... except I have a Venus: Venus verizon - Bing Images (Black)

    Cannot wait to ditch this for a WP7... I would have gone with a iOS, but I am Biased...
    05-18-2011 07:22 PM
  22. MicrosoftNorthstar's Avatar
    Mr. Vet, at this training you went to, about how many other employees were there, and what was their response to the Trophy? Were they as interested as you? Did they know that this will be a completely different phone than the myriad of Google devices on Verizon now? Anybody utter "Windows 7 Phone"?
    05-18-2011 07:28 PM
  23. Tjarren's Avatar
    EXTREMELY disappointed if it doesn't have an SLCD screen. It honestly makes NO sense.

    If this is a $499 phone off contract, it just won't be worth it to me. All this waiting and only thing really upgraded from the October shipments is the memory. I really would like to know why Verizon chose THIS of all WP7 devices to release as their initial WP7 offering. I've been very careful not to down the device because some really like it and the rumored screen update seemed appealing. But I don't feel it anymore. Should've been the Samsung Omnia 7. All of this waiting and ... *sigh*.

    We'll see. I may try the device out at the store and love it. But I have used a friend's Focus and wanted to love that phone like a woman ...
    05-18-2011 07:54 PM
  24. keithnet's Avatar
    any idea if the storage will be user-accessible?
    It's not user-accessible. I searched the one I had today and the card slot is not anywhere to be found [easily].

    Also, I disagree about the screen not being "beautiful, clear, vibrant screen". The one I had was very clear and vibrant. Very similar to my SLCD Incredible. Looking forward to the HTC clarification.
    05-18-2011 08:06 PM
  25. jdelroyc's Avatar
    FYI - the May 26th date has been semi-confirmed by my roommate who works for a Verizon reseller. He said the VZW rep came in today and told him "the 26th is the most recent thing" he's heard. He also asked why it was taking so long, aka what's the delay and the rep said he didn't know.

    I'd also like to say to those who may let the screen deter them from getting the phone (if it is indeed only an LCD) that all the reviews I've seen have indicated the screen is a bright, nice looking screen.
    05-18-2011 08:12 PM
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