02-11-2014 08:16 PM
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  1. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    But that Avatar though! LOL!
    I try. :)
    02-10-2014 12:30 AM
  2. z33dev33l's Avatar
    It's a glorified app launcher, nothing more.
    02-10-2014 12:46 AM
  3. stalemate1's Avatar
    I've only owned Blackberry and WP. Never owned an IPhone or Android. Was thinking about switching for a while because of all the fuss.

    The world goes nuts for IPhone. People say you can do anything with it or Android. They tell me I'm missing out. They tell me it's unreal. Blah blah blah.

    I bought an IPhone today and been playing with it all day. Someone explain to me what the fuss was about? I don't see it. What is it exactly? Am I missing something?

    It's a bunch of icons. Is this a joke? I'm a little PO'd right now. This phone in no way shape or form is better than WP. There is nothing about this phone I like.
    I asked someone that same question and they replied..."it can get what's app"...I'm surprised the human race isn't extinct yet.

    IMO, iPhone gets its reputation for running one if the most reliable operating systems on the planet (this is debatable though) but seriously, the thing just works no matter how simple you are or what ever you do...it never freezes or lags (provided you dont update old hardware with the latest os or jail break) and every app in the Apple app store is of the top premium quality. seriously, every app is optimized for a specific device running a specific version of ios...yes, developers literally need to make many multiple variants of their app to support several apple devices. also I've heard that no app has faults as a result of the very strict moderation.

    though I hate it when you ask people why they think that their iphone they bought or want is so amazing and they cant even answer you buy their own biased opinion...for people like this you know they bought it as a fashion accessory. to give them class.

    but if I bought an iPhone it would only be for its reliability. and its compatibility for apps in the app market. I wouldn't take it for anything else because lets face it...its the most borring os on a smart phone I have ever seen, yes even Nokias symbian and asha os is more exciting. asha is actually very impressive by the way.
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    02-10-2014 03:48 AM
  4. PureView's Avatar
    There are a ton of things the iPhone can do that a Windows Phone can't. But since your OP just reeks of fanboyism, I feel it would be useless to go into details.
    02-10-2014 04:05 AM
  5. PureView's Avatar
    While IOS 7 was a slight change, nothing has changed since 2007. I still find it boring on my iPad, and I prefer WP and windows 8.1.
    Except for an entirely reworked multitasking system, a new notification centre, tons of new APIs enabling thousands of new apps and a recent revamp of the UI. Really if you're going to talk about massive changes, then how much has Windows Phone changed in 4 years? It looks literally the same as it did in 2010, except for more live tiles.
    02-10-2014 04:09 AM
  6. maclancer's Avatar
    There are a ton of things the iPhone can do that a Windows Phone can't. But since your OP just reeks of fanboyism, I feel it would be useless to go into details.
    Maybe this forum is not the right place for you if you are an iPhone user.
    psudotechzealot and bigbmc26 like this.
    02-10-2014 04:10 AM
  7. rculver9056's Avatar
    There are a ton of things the iPhone can do that a Windows Phone can't. But since your OP just reeks of fanboyism, I feel it would be useless to go into details.
    No, please do...
    bigbmc26 likes this.
    02-10-2014 06:16 AM
  8. MrWhiteman's Avatar
    I've only owned Blackberry and WP. Never owned an IPhone or Android. Was thinking about switching for a while because of all the fuss.

    The world goes nuts for IPhone. People say you can do anything with it or Android. They tell me I'm missing out. They tell me it's unreal. Blah blah blah.

    I bought an IPhone today and been playing with it all day. Someone explain to me what the fuss was about? I don't see it. What is it exactly? Am I missing something?

    It's a bunch of icons. Is this a joke? I'm a little PO'd right now. This phone in no way shape or form is better than WP. There is nothing about this phone I like.
    In the UK, the law states that once you have removed the packaging / used the phone, you cannot return it simply because you want to.
    02-10-2014 06:20 AM
  9. boovish's Avatar
    ugh that username and that avatar annoys me haha. I can't stand that stupid show and character lol
    But uyeah an iPhone is a peoples phone I feel. The elderly can use it easily just as young kids can and that's why it caught on so well, even before the app store.
    No it "Caught on so well" because it was the only smartphone that did something. Unlike the sluggish and fat early blackberries.
    02-10-2014 06:38 AM
  10. christenmartin's Avatar
    The iPhone is so easy to use is definitely a quality. Apple assumes you are ignorant when it comes to tech. Mother in law with a iPhone 5 perfect example (how she can operate a toaster amazes me). This assumes everything else is very complexes and difficult to use, when my 2 year old son can make my WP kiss his azz. So once again good marketing.
    02-10-2014 06:52 AM
  11. PureView's Avatar
    No, please do...
    Well for starters it has apps.

    1- Whether you like it or not, people want apps. They want the latest fad app. It sucks for most people when they don't get to play the latest fad app. You can make fun of these people, but it's the reality. But then there are genuinely useful apps. Like Google apps, Wunderlist, Omnifocus etc.

    2- VPN. This is such a deal breaker for me. I plan to purchase a premium VPN by the end of the month. Unfortunately Windows Phone does not support VPN, and even if it does in the future, there is no telling if premium VPNs will have their apps ready for it.

    3- Excellent backup/restore. I backed up my iPhone 4S on iTunes. Restored it on my iPhone 5. Backed up the iPhone 5 and will restore it on my iPhone 5S. It's like I never formatted my phone to begin with. Everything is right there when you get a new iPhone. Windows Phone has no backup what so ever other than saving your app list and SMS/MMS.

    4- No smartwatch support for Windows Phone, because it currently does not have the required APIs. This was told directly by Pebble. I don't expect APIs to come till 8.1.

    5- iMessage and Facetime. Nothing even remotely similar on Windows Phone.

    6- Apple customer support. Needs no explanation.

    7- You get OTA updates the second they're available. No need to ask around, wait around and wonder around if you'll get them.

    8- Battery on the iPhone is awesome. I don't know how they do it, but I've never had battery issues on an iPhone. Windows Phone is notorious for its random battery drains. This issue was there back in 2012, and it's still there despite 3 updates to the OS. Even my Lumia Black running Lumia 1020 is just odd in terms of battery. One night I'll have 2% drain, and the next it will be 15%.

    9- Apple actively listens to its customers. When iOS 4 was released, lots of people started complaining about the lack of a notification centre. It was there in iOS 5. With iOS 6 people were disappointed with the lack of UI changes. It was there in iOS 7. Apple copped a lot of criticism over some design elements in iOS 7. They're actively fixing them with each update. iOS 7.1 even alters some icons. Microsoft doesn't give two ****s about what the customer wants. They have their own check list of things they want to do, and no amount of complaining will move them. We've been asking for a notification centre and separate volume keys for nearly 3 years now. We got Kids Corner and Rooms instead.

    Look, I'm no Windows Phone hater. I own a Lumia 1020. It's a beautiful piece of hardware. But you asked for a list of things the iPhone does that Windows Phone doesn't. Similarly there are tons of things Windows Phone does that the iPhone doesn't. Both OS have their pros and cons. But stop kidding yourself by thinking the iPhone is just a dumb phone that can't do anything.
    02-10-2014 07:11 AM
  12. Dave Blake's Avatar
    Wasn't the iPod announced in 2001?

    Maybe it was late 90's early 2000's I can't remember it was a ling time ago in technology... :(
    unstoppablekem likes this.
    02-10-2014 07:13 AM
  13. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    Lmao @ late 08's & early 90's.
    metalchick719 likes this.
    02-10-2014 07:56 AM
  14. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Late 80s and early 90s? The iPod came out this millenium and was a niche device til 04/05
    metalchick719 likes this.
    02-10-2014 08:10 AM
  15. anony_mouse's Avatar
    To be fair, I think you need to use a device - any device - for more than one day before making a judgement on it.

    As I'm writing this, I will say something more... My iPad was rock solid until iOS7. Now it reboots every day or so, always when swapping between apps. It seems to be some special fast reboot as it comes back to life quite quickly, but it's still annoying. Otherwise I find iOS fine. The icons may be boring but they are a means to an end and I don't spend much time looking at them. Apart from my reboot issue, it's very stable and does not slow down over time. The only other problem I had with it was the 'other' storage getting too large - resetting the device fixed that, and I must say I was very impressed with how all apps and data were automatically synced from iCloud. Within fiften minutes or so, my iPad was fully restored without any intervention on my part. However, it shouldn't have been necessary in the first place.
    In my experience, Android is the most stable mobile platform - my phone runs for months between reboots (I've had uptimes well over 1000 hours), and most reboots are a result of the battery running down because I forgot to charge it. I've never had to reset the phone in two+ years.
    02-10-2014 08:47 AM
  16. DBZo07's Avatar
    I feel you hyped

    Sent via Lumia 625 Black
    02-10-2014 09:01 AM
  17. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    Except for an entirely reworked multitasking system, a new notification centre, tons of new APIs enabling thousands of new apps and a recent revamp of the UI. Really if you're going to talk about massive changes, then how much has Windows Phone changed in 4 years? It looks literally the same as it did in 2010, except for more live tiles.
    Doesn't the multitasking remind you of windows phone? :-/


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    02-10-2014 09:30 AM
  18. xandros9's Avatar
    Doesn't the multitasking remind you of windows phone? :-/


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    *cough* webOS, old Safari mobile *cough*
    11B1P likes this.
    02-10-2014 09:41 AM
  19. PureView's Avatar
    Doesn't the multitasking remind you of windows phone? :-/


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    I'm not talking about the multitasking user interface. I'm talking about the multitasking capabilities of the app. The background work etc.
    And even if you want to talk about the interface, the one on iOS is slightly superior because it doesn't limit the viewable apps to just 9. You can open the 10th or even the 20th listed app provided it hasn't been killed by the OS.
    02-10-2014 10:07 AM
  20. Shouvik Mazumdar's Avatar
    Yes you are right. Anyone who says iPhone is dumb , probably doesn't know much about it. It is a solid piece of hardware and that's why people love buying it. About the few points you mentioned below , here is my point of view:

    1) Apps: Absolutely ! I love trying out the latest and brightest apps. But frankly , I never felt missing anything in the windows phone store. It doesnt have the latest but it has everything that I need. May be am the only one :)

    2) VPN is confirmed in 8.1 About VPN apps , I guess Ms would surely launch VPN with some popular apps. If i am not wrong , we have all the apps from citrix , cisco webex , so I don't think VPN apps would be missing for a long time

    3) Trust me Windows Phone backup is awesome. I changed phone three times and I lost no data. It backups in skydrive. It had zune in WP 7 , but I guess most of us hated it


    4) May be a deal breaker for you. Never really cared for t. Isn't fidbit app available ?

    5) Isn't Skype as good as Facetime ? iMessage is like BBM . May be it is a deal breaker for you. But for most of us , we are happy with Whatsapp. But if i am not wrong, MS / Nokia has some messaging apps. I however agree , Skype can be made a little better

    6) Can't say.windows Phone / Nokia has been extremely helpful over twitter. Again , no comments on this

    7) Agreed. OTA being carrer dependent didnt go down well with us. Probably thats why MS gave us the developer preview which gives us the update on day one and yes any phone can be a developer phone free of cost

    8) Not sure. Most of myiPhone 5s friends crib about battery. They disable most of features , lower brightness and still runs out of juice soon. I use my Lumia in full throttle , play games , pair with my bluetooth and needs to charge only in the night. Again good for you , that battery is not an issue for you.

    9) HEre you are wrong. MS does listen to people and they speak about it over twitter. Most of what we asked they kept giving us and if you are not aware the notification thingy people so love would come in 8.1 I guess MS even has an user voice a/c which they keep watching and even update when they add a feature. It would be unfair to say MS cares a damn about users. However I would agree MS is kinda slow. If i am not wrong Apple updates also comes yearly. More or less same condition with MS



    Again , Am not saying iPhone < WP or WP < iPhone. As a buyer and In India where we have no subsidy where I have to do a cost - value assesment , I some how find WP more suited from "value" perspective. Recently I got around 50K to buy a device from my office and I wanted to buy a high end phone. Most natural choice was the iPhone but I went with Lumia 1520. I paid 45K and in that 45K I got :

    1) awesome camera
    2) Bigger better storage ( iPhone @55K was 16 GB and 1520 gave me 32 internal + 64 GB storage)
    3) Bigger and awesome screen ( iPhone screen is awesome too , but it is kinda smaller to my need and has lesser dpi- personal choice perhaps)
    4) Free Nokia unlimited music and me being a music buff I really enjoyed the free music they gave
    5) PErsonally a better UI , though choice may differ.

    So yeah choices differ. MS is doing hard to meet our demands. Of course iPhone has been here for years and WP will need to play catch up for sometime , but it is doing pretty fast.


    But again , I completely agree I don't think iPhone is dumb , it is just for people like me who has no subsidy , sees a better value in some other alternatives available.







    Well for starters it has apps.

    1- Whether you like it or not, people want apps. They want the latest fad app. It sucks for most people when they don't get to play the latest fad app. You can make fun of these people, but it's the reality. But then there are genuinely useful apps. Like Google apps, Wunderlist, Omnifocus etc.

    2- VPN. This is such a deal breaker for me. I plan to purchase a premium VPN by the end of the month. Unfortunately Windows Phone does not support VPN, and even if it does in the future, there is no telling if premium VPNs will have their apps ready for it.

    3- Excellent backup/restore. I backed up my iPhone 4S on iTunes. Restored it on my iPhone 5. Backed up the iPhone 5 and will restore it on my iPhone 5S. It's like I never formatted my phone to begin with. Everything is right there when you get a new iPhone. Windows Phone has no backup what so ever other than saving your app list and SMS/MMS.

    4- No smartwatch support for Windows Phone, because it currently does not have the required APIs. This was told directly by Pebble. I don't expect APIs to come till 8.1.

    5- iMessage and Facetime. Nothing even remotely similar on Windows Phone.

    6- Apple customer support. Needs no explanation.

    7- You get OTA updates the second they're available. No need to ask around, wait around and wonder around if you'll get them.

    8- Battery on the iPhone is awesome. I don't know how they do it, but I've never had battery issues on an iPhone. Windows Phone is notorious for its random battery drains. This issue was there back in 2012, and it's still there despite 3 updates to the OS. Even my Lumia Black running Lumia 1020 is just odd in terms of battery. One night I'll have 2% drain, and the next it will be 15%.

    9- Apple actively listens to its customers. When iOS 4 was released, lots of people started complaining about the lack of a notification centre. It was there in iOS 5. With iOS 6 people were disappointed with the lack of UI changes. It was there in iOS 7. Apple copped a lot of criticism over some design elements in iOS 7. They're actively fixing them with each update. iOS 7.1 even alters some icons. Microsoft doesn't give two ****s about what the customer wants. They have their own check list of things they want to do, and no amount of complaining will move them. We've been asking for a notification centre and separate volume keys for nearly 3 years now. We got Kids Corner and Rooms instead.

    Look, I'm no Windows Phone hater. I own a Lumia 1020. It's a beautiful piece of hardware. But you asked for a list of things the iPhone does that Windows Phone doesn't. Similarly there are tons of things Windows Phone does that the iPhone doesn't. Both OS have their pros and cons. But stop kidding yourself by thinking the iPhone is just a dumb phone that can't do anything.
    Zakriel, mpt15, bigbmc26 and 1 others like this.
    02-10-2014 10:08 AM
  21. Zeem Frostmaw's Avatar
    When I was 6 years old, we had two tin cans and a string

    http://i61.tinypic.com/hreipy.jpg

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    The combination of content and signature made me chuckle. =P
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    02-10-2014 10:48 AM
  22. PureView's Avatar
    3) Trust me Windows Phone backup is awesome. I changed phone three times and I lost no data. It backups in skydrive. It had zune in WP 7 , but I guess most of us hated it
    Really? May I ask how you did that? I have Angry Birds on my Lumia 1020. Will I get all my progress back if I shift to Lumia 1520?
    02-10-2014 11:19 AM
  23. RichHowerton's Avatar
    From a previous Iphone user, it is no frills phone. Basic ui. I always felt it was very restrictive. Did not like the small screen. Plus the integration with Outlook, and Office was horrible. I went through two iphones, 4, 4s, on Verizon, and both experienced lockups, freezups..some times when an incoming call would come it, as soon as i tried to answer it, it was freeze up. etc.

    Did not care much for Itunes, and the backup/restore solution. I can't tell you how frustrating is was merging contacts with Outlook Contacts, and how many times it would lock up syncing contacts, only to find out i lost all my contacts on the iphone and outlook.... then it would automatically try to create a backup image, only to overwrite your good backups.... Ultimately, I tried the Windows Phone, and wow, so much more smoother integration with Outlook Contacts, Calendaring. I have had a 928 since last summer, and have not dropped a single call, freeze up.

    The iphone is basically all about hype as far as i am concerned.
    02-10-2014 12:48 PM
  24. DBZo07's Avatar
    The combination of content and signature made me chuckle. =P



    epic one. Nice sense of humor.





    Sent via Lumia 625 Black
    02-10-2014 01:45 PM
  25. 11B1P's Avatar
    One thing I did notice is that WP's store is by far the most difficult to find apps.
    Really? How hard is it to hit the magnifying glass and search for the particular app? Or at least the type of app.
    02-10-2014 01:58 PM
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