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  1. tapehead's Avatar
    I just cannot handle the Music situation. Aside from the abysmal state of Xbox Music, I own a Mac, and Microsoft has done an embarrassing job with their Mac support...

    I'm very close to switching to the iPhone 4. Is the 4 obsolete by this point? Because I can get on eBay tonight for under $300 unlocked, and that sounds worth it.
    04-21-2014 08:22 PM
  2. Azurus's Avatar
    I just cannot handle the Music situation. Aside from the abysmal state of Xbox Music, I own a Mac, and Microsoft has done an embarrassing job with their Mac support...

    I'm very close to switching to the iPhone 4. Is the 4 obsolete by this point? Because I can get on eBay tonight for under $300 unlocked, and that sounds worth it.
    Bro are you serious ?? I'm sorry but whatever windows phone you got is MILES ahead of iPhone 4. If you said iPhone 5S I wouldn't have argued with you . but IPhone 4 ?? seriously ?? your choice , but my advice to you is not to because its very laggy with the latest OS and they force you update so you're basically gonna waste your 300$
    04-21-2014 08:32 PM
  3. trooper11's Avatar
    Well I'm not sure if this matters, but MS stated that they are going to aggressively push updates for the Xbox Music app on a bi-weekly basis, starting with an update on the 22nd of this month. There are stories about it on the front page if your interested. They seem to acknowledge the problems and want to make it right, so there could be hope for you.

    Of course that also means you would need to update to 8.1, but anyone is free to do that and it seems to be worth doing.
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    04-21-2014 08:40 PM
  4. tapehead's Avatar
    Well, this is what I'm wondering. The problems I've had with the music experience have made me hate both of my Lumias. Either I get one song listed 10 times over EACH, or it doesn't sync at all. Then it wants to re-sync and erase everything. Then it doesn't mount correctly. Then it, etc. etc. etc. etc.

    I'm just really sick of the hassle. It shouldn't be an all day event if I decide to put a new CD on my phone.

    Re:iPhone 4, is there a big difference between the 4 and 4S, because my friend's iPhone (which she's been using for 2 years) is snappy as hell.
    04-21-2014 08:42 PM
  5. tapehead's Avatar
    Well I'm not sure if this matters, but MS stated that they are going to aggressively push updates for the Xbox Music app on a bi-weekly basis, starting with an update on the 22nd of this month. There are stories about it on the front page if your interested. They seem to acknowledge the problems and want to make it right, so there could be hope for you.

    Of course that also means you would need to update to 8.1, but anyone is free to do that and it seems to be worth doing.
    Yeah, but that won't fix the Mac support problem. :(
    04-21-2014 08:43 PM
  6. borasar's Avatar
    I just cannot handle the Music situation. Aside from the abysmal state of Xbox Music, I own a Mac, and Microsoft has done an embarrassing job with their Mac support...

    I'm very close to switching to the iPhone 4. Is the 4 obsolete by this point? Because I can get on eBay tonight for under $300 unlocked, and that sounds worth it.
    They've announced that xbox music will be getting updated constantly, with the first update coming this week. I use a mac too, what exactly is your issue?
    04-21-2014 08:47 PM
  7. tapehead's Avatar
    They've announced that xbox music will be getting updated constantly, with the first update coming this week. I use a mac too, what exactly is your issue?
    See above. I also don't understand why I have to have three damn apps open to sync. iTunes, iPhoto AND the Windows Transfer App? And no matter how hard I try, iPhoto always opens no matter how many times I tell it not to sync my pictures. And then, it just likes to crash. And when I do get it open, that "Allow access to folder..." option only seems to work about 40% of the time. This is both before and after resetting my Macbook Pro and upgrading the Transfer app. It's just a joke.
    04-21-2014 08:50 PM
  8. Kaushik Banerjee's Avatar
    Well, this is what I'm wondering. The problems I've had with the music experience have made me hate both of my Lumias. Either I get one song listed 10 times over EACH, or it doesn't sync at all. Then it wants to re-sync and erase everything. Then it doesn't mount correctly. Then it, etc. etc. etc. etc.

    I'm just really sick of the hassle. It shouldn't be an all day event if I decide to put a new CD on my phone.

    Re:iPhone 4, is there a big difference between the 4 and 4S, because my friend's iPhone (which she's been using for 2 years) is snappy as hell.
    Bro I understand the problem which you are facing. Its files duplication problem. Music videos and photos get duplicated (sometimes triplicated or more ) if you delete one.. The other duplicated files get removed too. A solution for this is hard reset your phone. Because all other solution will fail. Go to settings create a backup of your apps and then reset option from settings it would take a couple of minutes. And then do not forget to format your sd card before hard reset. Connect your phone to your pc to see if there are any files in the music videos folders (both internal and sd card). If there then just clear it out. Its a one time process you wont face this problem again. Also os upgrades might solve this problem. Have to updated to windows phone 8.1 dev preview?. Listen bro, if you want to switch to iOs or android, there is no one stopping you. Windows is best known for its simplicity. And more over windows 8.1 is nearly ready, I would recommend give wp8.1 a try. You wont regret it. The choice is all yours. 😊
    04-21-2014 08:55 PM
  9. quantum tao's Avatar
    You have a mac, get an iPhone. Problem solved.
    04-21-2014 08:56 PM
  10. aiorialive's Avatar
    The Xbox App Music Needs manage the covers and music information like W8.1
    04-21-2014 08:56 PM
  11. tapehead's Avatar
    Bro I understand the problem which you are facing. Its files duplication problem. Music videos and photos get duplicated (sometimes triplicated or more ) if you delete one.. The other duplicated files get removed too. A solution for this is hard reset your phone. Because all other solution will fail. Go to settings create a backup of your apps and then reset option from settings it would take a couple of minutes. And then do not forget to format your sd card before hard reset. Connect your phone to your pc to see if there are any files in the music videos folders (both internal and sd card). If there then just clear it out. Its a one time process you wont face this problem again. Also os upgrades might solve this problem. Have to updated to windows phone 8.1 dev preview?. Listen bro, if you want to switch to iOs or android, there is no one stopping you. Windows is best known for its simplicity. And more over windows 8.1 is nearly ready, I would recommend give wp8.1 a try. You wont regret it. The choice is all yours.
    I've reset my phone because of this problem a couple of times now, and nothing seems to stick. It fixes the problem for a little while, but then it always resurfaces. And now it's a problem on multiple different SD cards with different capacities. I just do not understand why this keeps happening, and it's unbearably frustrating.

    I'm thinking a major factor is the Mac transfer app. :(
    04-21-2014 08:56 PM
  12. borasar's Avatar
    See above. I also don't understand why I have to have three damn apps open to sync. iTunes, iPhoto AND the Windows Transfer App? And no matter how hard I try, iPhoto always opens no matter how many times I tell it not to sync my pictures. And then, it just likes to crash. And when I do get it open, that "Allow access to folder..." option only seems to work about 40% of the time. This is both before and after resetting my Macbook Pro and upgrading the Transfer app. It's just a joke.
    sorry to hear that, my itunes and iphoto don't open when i plug in the phone, I usually open the windows transfer app before I connect the phone, not sure if that makes a difference. The app itself is not the best in terms of user interface (but neither is itunes for iphone sync). iPhoto has a tendency to get trigger happy when any media is connected, you can see a bunch of solutions on discussions.apple.com, that's an iphoto issue and not a windows phone issue, it'll do the same with an iphone or a camera, to avoid this the following should help:
    Steps:
    1. Open Image Capture
    2. Navigate to Device
    3. Click on button in the bottom left hand side (the arrow in the box symbol).
    4. Choose "Open With..."
    5. Select the option.
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    04-21-2014 09:00 PM
  13. Highdefjunkie's Avatar
    If you are that miserable get the iPhone. Dealing with iTunes is a whole nother level of frustration for me.
    04-21-2014 09:01 PM
  14. iyae's Avatar
    I've reset my phone because of this problem a couple of times now, and nothing seems to stick. It fixes the problem for a little while, but then it always resurfaces. And now it's a problem on multiple different SD cards with different capacities. I just do not understand why this keeps happening, and it's unbearably frustrating.

    I'm thinking a major factor is the Mac transfer app. :(
    I don't know much about macs but cant you just drag and drop music onto the phone? Much easier than dealing with an application to transfer music. I gave up on Microsofts sync app for PC because it would always copy music twice.
    04-21-2014 09:02 PM
  15. tapehead's Avatar
    sorry to hear that, my itunes and iphoto don't open when i plug in the phone, I usually open the windows transfer app before I connect the phone, not sure if that makes a difference. The app itself is not the best in terms of user interface (but neither is itunes for iphone sync). iPhoto has a tendency to get trigger happy when any media is connected, you can see a bunch of solutions on discussions.apple.com, that's an iphoto issue and not a windows phone issue, it'll do the same with an iphone or a camera, to avoid this the following should help:
    Steps:
    1. Open Image Capture
    2. Navigate to Device
    3. Click on button in the bottom left hand side (the arrow in the box symbol).
    4. Choose "Open With..."
    5. Select the option.
    I'll definitely give that a try re:iPhoto. And I can believe the issue is with iPhoto. It's such a worthless app, IMO.

    In regards to the iPhone sync, I would do the manual sync I used to do with the iPod. The only thing I worry about really is the Last.FM support. It was easiest on Android, but I hate Google more than anything.
    04-21-2014 09:02 PM
  16. deecoop0351's Avatar
    I just cannot handle the Music situation. Aside from the abysmal state of Xbox Music, I own a Mac, and Microsoft has done an embarrassing job with their Mac support...

    I'm very close to switching to the iPhone 4. Is the 4 obsolete by this point? Because I can get on eBay tonight for under $300 unlocked, and that sounds worth it.
    Go get a iPhone than and stop your crying 😢
    04-21-2014 09:02 PM
  17. borasar's Avatar
    I've reset my phone because of this problem a couple of times now, and nothing seems to stick. It fixes the problem for a little while, but then it always resurfaces. And now it's a problem on multiple different SD cards with different capacities. I just do not understand why this keeps happening, and it's unbearably frustrating.

    I'm thinking a major factor is the Mac transfer app. :(
    I don't have an SD card on my phone, but don't have any issues syncing music with the mac app. Have you considered saving the music on the phone memory and other items on the SD card? that might help
    04-21-2014 09:03 PM
  18. Kaushik Banerjee's Avatar
    I've reset my phone because of this problem a couple of times now, and nothing seems to stick. It fixes the problem for a little while, but then it always resurfaces. And now it's a problem on multiple different SD cards with different capacities. I just do not understand why this keeps happening, and it's unbearably frustrating.

    I'm thinking a major factor is the Mac transfer app. :(
    It can be the problem, check your mac transfer app for updates, it can have bug fixes which might solve your problem. If you have a PC running windows OS try using the windows phone app to transfer media. I know its really frustrating for you, believe me I also had this problem and decided to switch to some other OS. But leaving this problem the basic functions and UI of a windows phone is just awesome. I suggest you check your phone for any updates. And have you upgraded to wp 8.1?
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    04-21-2014 09:04 PM
  19. tapehead's Avatar
    I don't know much about macs but cant you just drag and drop music onto the phone? Much easier than dealing with an application to transfer music. I gave up on Microsofts sync app for PC because it would always copy music twice.
    Nope. Windows Phone devices don't mount in Finder like they do in Windows Explorer. And rather than allowing a built-in MTP plugin on the device, Microsoft opted for one of the WORST apps I've ever had to use. I can't even sync songs individually. I have to sync the entire freaking album, which I don't always want to do.
    04-21-2014 09:04 PM
  20. borasar's Avatar
    I don't know much about macs but cant you just drag and drop music onto the phone? Much easier than dealing with an application to transfer music. I gave up on Microsofts sync app for PC because it would always copy music twice.
    you could do that on a mac as well, but once again i'm not sure what's happening wrong here, but i used both methods and music isn't duplicated
    04-21-2014 09:04 PM
  21. borasar's Avatar
    you can't do it directly, but the app allows you to see the music files instead of just using the itunes sync section of the app
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    04-21-2014 09:06 PM
  22. tapehead's Avatar
    It can be the problem, check your mac transfer app for updates, it can have bug fixes which might solve your problem. If you have a PC running windows OS try using the windows phone app to transfer media. I know its really frustrating for you, believe me I also had this problem and decided to switch to some other OS. But leaving this problem the basic functions and UI of a windows phone is just awesome. I suggest you check your phone for any updates. And have you upgraded to wp 8.1?
    Yup, I've updated to Win 8.1 and then downgraded because the problems there were just more severe. My music wouldn't even load at all due to constant re-caching.

    I do have a Windows PC here, but I will not have one in a few days because I'm moving across the pond in a couple days. Mac and Linux only from in on out.

    I definitely agree WP8 is snappy and easy on the battery, fluid and all around sexy. Tiles are just delicious, and the 3rd party apps from developers like Rudy Huyn are superior to Android equivalents. That said, I use my phone are an powerhouse music-device with Xbox Music (subscription) and the like. It's more mp3 player than not to me. And Microsoft has just made this past year overtly painful with the music syncing.
    04-21-2014 09:07 PM
  23. tapehead's Avatar
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    Whyyyyyyyyy is this happening? :( This never happened on my Zune, iPod, iRiver, Sandisk Sansa Player, Creative Zen, Droid Incredible, Droid Incredible 2, Galaxy Nexus...
    04-21-2014 09:10 PM
  24. Timh143's Avatar
    You can get a Lumia 925 (t-mobile only though) for $100 less than that iphone and would get double the RAM , higher pixel density, much better camera, 1.5ghz processor over 1ghz or 800mhz, much bigger battery, bigger screen, better display, etc. To me it doesn't seem worth it to pay an extra 100-200 for an iphone just to get better mac support, which could end up getting fixed in an update anyway.
    04-21-2014 09:15 PM
  25. tapehead's Avatar
    You can get a Lumia 925 (t-mobile only though) for $100 less than that iphone and would get double the RAM , higher pixel density, much better camera, 1.5ghz processor over 1ghz or 800mhz, much bigger battery, bigger screen, better display, etc. To me it doesn't seem worth it to pay an extra 100-200 for an iphone just to get better mac support, which could end up getting fixed in an update anyway.
    All of that means nothing is music doesn't work. Look at the picture I posted. The possibility that they MIGHT fix Mac support is just not enough at this point. It doesn't help me now when I just want to put on new CDs and can't do it without going through a bottle of aspirin.

    I'm going to keep one of my Windows Phones and track its progress, but I just cannot use it as my daily driver in its current state anymore.

    If the iPhone isn't a good option, I need one that isn't a Windows Phone.
    04-21-2014 09:19 PM
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