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  1. wrm1's Avatar
    Siri was a program Apple bought from a developer...which in many ways copies Microsoft Voice Command from the WinMo days (yeah....I went there. lol). Microsoft copied the notification center from Android (two versions ago). Everyone borrows from everyone, Apple of course usually claims the idea, but, still. It's not a question about borrowing, stealing or ripping off; it's a question of implementation and advancement. Does the latest company advance the idea?

    That said, I wasn't super-impressed with iOS 8 either. lol
    06-03-2014 11:45 PM
  2. wrm1's Avatar
    windows phone 8.1 turned out to be something big and unexpected with many improvements, new features and so on. but there are some features i would like to see in order to keep the hype and momentum of windows phone 8.1 going. we need something or anything we can get that reduce the hype ios 8 is now receiving. imagine on CNN they are talking about feature like actionable notification, family/ room, always on siri like they are the new apples innovation.
    please vote for these features and share with as many people as you can.
    actionable notification, always on cortana, picture password – Feature Suggestions for Windows Phone
    Unless there is a missing plane involved, CNN isn't going to talk about this. lol. Kidding...you make a great point. The key with all of this is hype. Force all Sales staff to live with a Windows phone on 8.1 , after an explanation of the features and benefits, for a month and I think we would see an awful lot more growth. My local t-mobile has two windows phones. The display is behind the registers. There is a wall of Androids, a display of i-stuff...but the 925 and 521 (both amazing phones) are hidden on a wall behind the register. The news gave great reviews and play to 8.1...it's up to the users to keep the hype going.
    06-04-2014 12:24 AM
  3. FinancialP's Avatar
    I don't think some of you get it.

    Yes the features aren't new. Yes the stuff Apple announced has been around a long time.


    However Apple has seemed to remove the hassle and make everything seamless.

    Perfect example the SMS and calls feature. There is absolutely nothing to setup on your ipad or Mac. No extra programs to download and login and sync or create accounts, no searching for bluetooth networks or anything. It just works.

    It's the implementation that matters.
    06-04-2014 12:27 AM
  4. wrm1's Avatar
    (I.E: Swype keyboard [Which we kinda stole from Android third-party keyboard makers],
    Which originally was made for Windows Mobile. Just thought I would point that out. Microsoft had it first on Windows Mobile.
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    06-04-2014 12:38 AM
  5. shauntipson's Avatar
    Interactive Notifications and widget now I like that in windows mobile
    06-04-2014 02:00 AM
  6. Chregu's Avatar
    Unless there is a missing plane involved, CNN isn't going to talk about this. lol. Kidding...you make a great point. The key with all of this is hype. Force all Sales staff to live with a Windows phone on 8.1 , after an explanation of the features and benefits, for a month and I think we would see an awful lot more growth. My local t-mobile has two windows phones. The display is behind the registers. There is a wall of Androids, a display of i-stuff...but the 925 and 521 (both amazing phones) are hidden on a wall behind the register. The news gave great reviews and play to 8.1...it's up to the users to keep the hype going.
    These phones are nice, but they are also pretty outdated and don't run Windows Phone 8.1 unless you go the developer preview route.
    06-04-2014 02:19 AM
  7. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Why did you pick a 27 inch iMac? When you guys bring up price you always pick the most expensive ones but never pick the cheapest ones. If we compare prices. The prices of the iMacs are inline with Windows All in Ones. Not over priced and if they are Windows computers are overpriced too.

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    if my eyes are correct , that surely is overpriced
    rather get a decent laptop/macbook with a good display instead
    06-04-2014 03:39 AM
  8. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Not much of a price difference to call it overpriced.

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    what??
    other than the ipad and apple tv, every other apple product is quite overpriced and has lower specs especially for macs,rather get that dell,chris mentioned, and install elementary os and windows in dual boot

    plus the macbook air 11" is a sweet deal but battery wear issues are present in every laptop/macbook in the market so a laptop with a removable battery is better
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    06-04-2014 03:42 AM
  9. A895's Avatar
    Which originally was made for Windows Mobile. Just thought I would point that out. Microsoft had it first on Windows Mobile.
    Does it matter, majority of this thread is about who had it first.
    06-04-2014 07:45 AM
  10. A895's Avatar
    if my eyes are correct , that surely is overpriced
    rather get a decent laptop/macbook with a good display instead
    I was saying in that post the Windows AIO devices have the same specs as the iMacs so it is a fair comparison. So calling them overpriced is calling all the AIO's overpriced as well.
    06-04-2014 07:46 AM
  11. A895's Avatar
    what??
    other than the ipad and apple tv, every other apple product is quite overpriced and has lower specs especially for macs,rather get that dell,chris mentioned, and install elementary os and windows in dual boot

    plus the macbook air 11" is a sweet deal but battery wear issues are present in every laptop/macbook in the market so a laptop with a removable battery is better
    They are not overpriced, you and others want to believe that it is, but in reality Apple's products are in the same range as any other OS's high end end devices.
    06-04-2014 07:47 AM
  12. Chregu's Avatar
    Does it matter, majority of this thread is about who had it first.
    I think it doesn't matter. Windows Mobile had so many features, so many possibilities. Most of them were cut for Windows Phone 7. It didn't even have copy and paste anymore...

    It doesn't matter who had it first, it matters who has it now and how it's implemented.
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    06-04-2014 07:48 AM
  13. A895's Avatar
    I think it doesn't matter. Windows Mobile had so many features, so many possibilities. Most of them were cut for Windows Phone 7. It didn't even have copy and paste anymore...

    It doesn't matter who had it first, it matters who has it now and how it's implemented.
    Exactly, Windows Mobile got left in the cold and was supplanted for Windows Phone 7 and from the get go WP7 had less than half of the features of Windows Mobile.
    06-04-2014 07:55 AM
  14. gkrew's Avatar
    I will still put it on my iPad when it becomes available. I'd like to use the new OS for myself
    06-04-2014 08:13 AM
  15. tylerpw's Avatar
    Regardless of where you stand, you have to realize that more users = improvement to WP ecosystem. Your individual fanboy love of the platform won't drive developers to improve the severely lacking app ecosystem. Until WP is perceived to be on par with iOS by the non-techie masses, it won't stand a chance.

    IMO WP is trying really hard to differentiate without making improvements to core features that iOS/Android users have grown accustomed to.

    You can make the argument that Apple isn't doing anything innovative but, who cares if people love their iPhones and feel no need to look elsewhere?
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    06-04-2014 09:53 AM
  16. tylerpw's Avatar
    The fact that I still use my sim-less iPhone via Wi-Fi to be able to use a better functioning version of most apps speaks volumes. That has nothing to do with the OS and everything to do with the trajectory of the 2 platforms. WP needs help, quick.
    06-04-2014 09:58 AM
  17. Chregu's Avatar
    The fact that I still use my sim-less iPhone via Wi-Fi to be able to use a better functioning version of most apps speaks volumes. That has nothing to do with the OS and everything to do with the trajectory of the 2 platforms. WP needs help, quick.
    Does that mean you are using a Windows Phone device as main phone? Why don't you just use your old iPhone then?
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    06-04-2014 10:04 AM
  18. Tony_Offends_U's Avatar
    What is more likely, that people will have a Microsoft computer or Mac?
    Mac are, much like iPhones to expensive. For price of 27" Mac I can buy a comparable Windows PC (including screen and all other things), Lumia 1520 and Windows tablet.
    You can get a core i7, a 1520, and any Windows tablet for the price of a Mac? Do Macs cost $3,500 where you're from?
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    06-04-2014 10:04 AM
  19. tylerpw's Avatar
    Does that mean you are using a Windows Phone device as main phone? Why don't you just use your old iPhone then?
    Because I love Microsoft and the 1020 camera is the GOAT
    06-04-2014 10:14 AM
  20. prasath1234's Avatar
    Apple was far better when steve jobs was there now apple mostly try to make money out of their devices. And as tapehead said its true now there is innovation in any of the OS. They just copy each other ideas.
    Apple just launched iphone 5C 8gb version in India for ₹38000(i.e $600) same as the price tag of lumia 1520 and Samsung galaxy S5.In india still people go for apple cause its an iphone it will make them feel look rich(they think this way)
    Hey I think India everyone has galaxies S4 &S5

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    06-04-2014 10:26 AM
  21. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    They are not overpriced, you and others want to believe that it is, but in reality Apple's products are in the same range as any other OS's high end end devices.
    The issue isn't purely price point, but price point in relation to what you're getting. For example, the iPhone 5S on contract is the same as the Lumia 1520 (both considered flagships) The base iPhone 5 (no Siri) without contract is $549.00 which is the same price as a Lumia 1520 off contract. Now let's look at the phones and what you're getting. Lumia has a bigger and better screen, better battery, better camera, better processor, better audio and microphone (4) and a microSD slot for expandable memory. The issue with Apple products have never been strictly price related as they are price accordingly to the product class, but rather price versus product capability.
    06-04-2014 11:14 AM
  22. prasath1234's Avatar
    Ok Christoper, you got point.

    So IOS 8 isn't bad but is not enough for most of Windows Phone fans, Apple products are overpriced and Microsoft has some work to do.

    Good night guys, or have a nice day (if you are from US).
    Yes Apple iPhone's are for those who spend a fortune atleast in India.so all Apple products users be happy you get all from this ios 8.I agree this is better update than ios 7.enjoy your iPhone's!!!!.

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    06-04-2014 11:22 AM
  23. rdubmu's Avatar
    Can't wait to see what the iPhone 6 brings to iOS 8 hardware wise. I am pretty sure some sort of heart beat monitor either on the home button or in the ear pods, maybe some other enhancements like a bigger screen


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    06-04-2014 11:24 AM
  24. A895's Avatar
    The issue isn't purely price point, but price point in relation to what you're getting. For example, the iPhone 5S on contract is the same as the Lumia 1520 (both considered flagships) The base iPhone 5 (no Siri) without contract is $549.00 which is the same price as a Lumia 1520 off contract. Now let's look at the phones and what you're getting. Lumia has a bigger and better screen, better battery, better camera, better processor, better audio and microphone (4) and a microSD slot for expandable memory. The issue with Apple products have never been strictly price related as they are price accordingly to the product class, but rather price versus product capability.
    No it's perceived value. Regardless of capability an iPhone 5C (the base model and most popular model) is $549 off contract and the Lumia Icon is $549 off contract as well. They are the same price. Whether one device is more value for the money is always up for debate and will always be swayed by personal choice and bias. Also for the 1520 I am seeing it for $584 off contract on AT&T`s website.
    06-04-2014 11:35 AM
  25. Christopher Lindsay's Avatar
    I did not bring up price or who had anything first. I addressed that point because others brought it up. IOS 8 is weak on its own merit. These points don't have to be brought up to prove IOS 8 is weak. IOS 8 is an example of Apple doing what Apple does best when it comes to iPhones since the death of Steve jobs. It offers a few app updates (message, notification center, keyboard) and a gimmick feature (think fingerprint scanner) like calling over Mac. These updates are not significant updates because these updates fixed where Apple was already falling short. The ability to remove yourself from group text comes from the flaws already in group text. Predictive text comes from the slowness of regular texting. My girl has an iPhone 5s and entering any text is a chore whenever I borrow it (Especially when you're used to WordFlow). This really should be called IOS 7.2 not IOS 8.
    06-04-2014 01:43 PM
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