06-18-2014 08:36 AM
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  1. Draconica5's Avatar
    Now I want to have macbook and iphone now... :(

    Macbook now can using phone calling, texting, continue typing an unfinished email,... from iphone/ipad.
    Technically... If you're working on macbook and need an iphone/ipad feature, you just use it on macbook!!!
    You don't even need to connect your iphone/ipad to macbook via USB cable...
    OSX now have an Aero-like UI and Widget support. Those features that windows used to have...
    Messenger on OSX now support all skype-like features and even more...

    Meanwhile, my Lumia520 can't do anything with my Surface pro 2...
    And Windows8.1 don't even have a Notification Center!
    Skype can't even show preview of sending photos and I can't even make a group call on WP8.1 !!!!!!!!!

    Microsoft are too slow again!
    Moiz Mian likes this.
    06-02-2014 03:48 PM
  2. meddyrainzo's Avatar
    The gaming comparison isn't as valid. They've been in development long before initial release. Just cause one company brought something later doesn't mean they haven't spent time on it. Windows Phone was a start from scratch. Same as BB10.
    Exactly. And BB10 was released even later than WP, yet it's feature list is almost as huge(picture password, ability to interact with notifications from the lockscreen, actionable notifications, more action center controls etc). I do get where you're coming from though, but some things should have been on WP from the get go
    06-02-2014 03:49 PM
  3. meddyrainzo's Avatar
    Ok checked all features in IOS 8 and still only useful thing are actionable notification. To have Mac integration I would still be missing something even if I buy iPhone, that's Mac ;). Other things are not so interesting.
    Don't get me wrong, it's not bad OS but I also isn't something that would make me pay so much for a phone.
    True, my biggest gripe with iPhones...the price.
    06-02-2014 03:50 PM
  4. LTTG's Avatar
    If only iPhones were a little cheaper...
    MyNL822 likes this.
    06-02-2014 03:52 PM
  5. Jas00555's Avatar
    After watching the entire thing, I've changed from unimpressed to mildly impressed. Its sad that they're just now getting predictive text, but I guess better severely late than never.

    Most of this stuff seems to only work if you have a Mac, except for their Cloud storage, which is also too late to make much of an impact. Actionable notifications and 3rd party keyboards are really the only thing that impresses me.
    SwimSwim likes this.
    06-02-2014 04:01 PM
  6. prasath1234's Avatar
    Ya ios 8 copied android diktat that's why Apple enter into agreement with Google not to sue each other.anyway great thing for Apple users.Apple has nailed it this time.

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    06-02-2014 04:06 PM
  7. Tahiti Bob's Avatar
    Can't wait to have this on my iPad. The reason I didn't get a Surface was the massive iOS ecosystem and I also like to see variety in the devices I use. Having a Windows Phone and a Surface is as boring to me as having an iPhone and an iPad. My future with the iPad is very bright indeed :)
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    06-02-2014 04:09 PM
  8. Blacklac's Avatar
    Don't worry, I'm already aware of the fact that I 'can' buy what I wish. I don't need you telling me that. ;).
    MS was responsible for WM wasn't it? So they do have a lot of experience in the mobile world . Yet WP7 and 8 lacked features expected on a smartphone. You don't have to like it, it is what it is.
    I like WP and will continue to support it, but the truth remains; they are slow compared to the competition. WP8.1 was due last year. If it did come out last year, WP would have definitely been in a better position than it is in today
    Yeah, Microsoft has themselves to blame for not taking the iPhone seriously and continuing WinMo, but that's an old discussion. :p
    meddyrainzo likes this.
    06-02-2014 04:11 PM
  9. kingenu's Avatar
    apple to me could afford not to catch up with android ASAP because they knew people could jail break it, if im missing a feature when i had my iphone, i searched ways of getting it and 90% of the time it was available on cydia, this meant i didn't have to leave the OS to get a feature i needed.
    But with windows phone, i can't do that, i have to move OS if i want that particular feature. im fine with no jailbreaks being aloud and stuff like that on windows phone but in order for me to stay with the OS.
    i need to know that features that are required come as soon as possible. e.g replying from other apps has been avaliable on cydia since ios 3 i think and through bitesms on cydia, on windows phone there is no other way of getting it, so because of that my expectation is now i expect to see it between the first GDR or the second one.
    06-02-2014 04:12 PM
  10. Donny James's Avatar
    Just saw this on wmpoweruser.com

    1) Photos app and iCloud Photo Library: This new iOS 8 feature will allow users to take photos and videos anywhere between iOS devices. There are some really neat photo editing features and the edits will also be updated across devices.

    In WP8.1: The Windows Phone Photos app includes not only OneDrive back-up, which synchronizes photos from other Windows and Windows Phones with the same account, but also integrates 3rd party libraries from any developer who cares to code one, including at present Facebook and Twitter.

    2) iMessage: You can now tap to talk and it allows you to share your voice and the same simple gesture also works for sharing videos and photos within Messages. Also, now you can choose to share your current location from within Messages for an hour, a day or longer.

    In WP8.1: There is no built-in messaging app, but you have Microsoft owned Skype, which if course has a much wider reach than iMessage. While the user experience is still lacking, Microsoft is working to improve integration and make it a slicker experience.

    3) HealthKit: This is a brand new feature in iOS8. Health app will gather the information you choose from your various health apps and fitness devices, and provides you with a clear and current overview in one place.

    In WP8.1: There is a new app called Bing Health and Fitness which can provide similar experience. The big difference here is the lack of 3rd party apps support in the Bing app.

    4) Apples QuickType keyboard: QuickType understands the way you communicate, suggesting favorite phrases, so you can write entire sentences with just a few taps.

    In WP8.1: Windows Phone has SmartFlow keyboard which offers this word predictions already. Windows Phone could benefit from supporting 3rd party keyboards however.

    5) Family Sharing: This allows users to communicate and share purchases, photos and calendars within the same household. Family members can browse and download each others iTunes, iBooks or App Store purchases. Up to six members can participate, each with their own Apple ID.

    In WP8.1: Windows Phone has a cool feature called Family Room which does almost most of the above except the iTunes part. Being able to share app store purchases with family members is however a great feature.

    6) iCloud Drive: You can store documents of any type can be safely stored, accessed and edited across your devices. Make edits on one device and the most up-to-date version of your documents will be available across all devices.

    In WP8.1: Windows Phone has OneDrive. OneDrive is much more comprehensive cloud storage solution than iCloud Drive without any doubt.

    7) Enterprise: iOS 8 offers expanded security and management improvements as well as new productivity features, including an expanded level of data protection for key built-in apps.

    In WP8.1: Microsoft has added a huge set of enterprise features that Apple have added in iOS for years. Microsofts Intune service is being updated every few weeks, so Microsoft wont lag much in this space.

    8) Interactive notifications, quick access to key contacts:

    In WP8.1: Microsoft has just added notifications center for the first time in their OS. Im sure Interactive notifications will come only in the next big release. And quick access to contacts is really not a problem as you pin them on your Start screen.

    9) Extended Spotlight capabilities : It give you results beyond whats on your device, including articles from Wikipedia, findings from the news and results from places nearby

    In WP8.1: Cortana and Bing offers much better search experience.

    10) Cand Mac: You can Handoff to start an activity on one device and finish on another, along with Instant Hotspot and the ability to make and receive calls and send SMS and MMS messages from your Mac or iPad.

    In WP8.1: Microsoft is completely absent in this department. Given the fact that both its mobile and desktop OS shares same core, I expected this continuity feature on Windows before iOS/Mac. Kudos to Apple for waking up Microsoft, I hope Microsoft does this continuity thing.

    Comparing The Top 10 Features Of New Apple iOS 8 With Microsoft Windows Phone OS 8.1 | WMPoweruser
    06-02-2014 05:33 PM
  11. osars ehi's Avatar
    windows phone 8.1 turned out to be something big and unexpected with many improvements, new features and so on. but there are some features i would like to see in order to keep the hype and momentum of windows phone 8.1 going. we need something or anything we can get that reduce the hype ios 8 is now receiving. imagine on CNN they are talking about feature like actionable notification, family/ room, always on siri like they are the new apples innovation.
    please vote for these features and share with as many people as you can.
    actionable notification, always on cortana, picture password – Feature Suggestions for Windows Phone
    Wow, WP8.1 already feels outdated.
    The WP team needs to pick things up real fast. No long waits before updates, huge features in GDRs etc. It took a year for apple to accomplish this much (took MS 2 years to go from WP8 to WP8.1). Sad thing is, nothing would change in the WP update process anytime soon
    Donny James likes this.
    06-02-2014 05:44 PM
  12. osars ehi's Avatar
    windows phone 8.1 turned out to be something big and unexpected with many improvements, new features and so on. but there are some features i would like to see in order to keep the hype and momentum of windows phone 8.1 going. we need something or anything we can get that reduce the hype ios 8 is now receiving. imagine on CNN they are talking about feature like actionable notification, family/ room, always on siri like they are the new apples innovation.
    please vote for these features and share with as many people as you can.
    actionable notification, always on cortana, picture password – Feature Suggestions for Windows Phone
    06-02-2014 05:45 PM
  13. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    Apple is implementing some of the best features of its competitors. Definitely a smart move on their part, giving people fewer reasons to leave and more reasons to pick up a Mac in addition to an iPhone.

    I still prefer Microsoft's approach to things, however. I'm willing to be patient with Windows Phone.

    Posted from my BlackBerry Z30 via Tapatalk
    06-02-2014 05:58 PM
  14. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    Yet with all this overkill, metrics indicate that iOS will loose market share to WP. Productivity and enginuity aren't Apples problems, it's affordability, and it's in markets like Asia and Europe. iOS8 is a pleasant update, but I think WP knew that it would be, so while iOS8 for develpers will drop later this month, WP8.1 which is pretty much still in developers preview will get updates like today. Expect another update, this one fairly big to come either right after or right before the official upgrade is made available. Now they have seen what iOS8 is about, they can tweek 8.1 a little and still have it appear as the official OS update, right as the 930 and W8 get released, not to mention Lenovo and other OEMs later in the year. All is all it works out well for both enterprises, since we know it's all going to culminate around the holidays on what's the best bang for your buck. That's a battle iOS is loosing now.
    06-02-2014 06:14 PM
  15. Reflexx's Avatar
    Yet with all this overkill, metrics indicate that iOS will loose market share to WP. Productivity and enginuity aren't Apples problems, it's affordability, and it's in markets like Asia and Europe. iOS8 is a pleasant update, but I think WP knew that it would be, so while iOS8 for develpers will drop later this month, WP8.1 which is pretty much still in developers preview will get updates like today. Expect another update, this one fairly big to come either right after or right before the official upgrade is made available. Now they have seen what iOS8 is about, they can tweek 8.1 a little and still have it appear as the official OS update, right as the 930 and W8 get released, not to mention Lenovo and other OEMs later in the year. All is all it works out well for both enterprises, since we know it's all going to culminate around the holidays on what's the best bang for your buck. That's a battle iOS is loosing now.

    I'm not sure if that's all the big a problem for iOS because I think they are consciously choosing not to compete in that area. It's not a battle that they are trying to win.

    Apple is near their saturation point, but they continue to make a lot of money because their customers are loyal and will continue to repurchase Apple products.

    I don't really see Apple as WP's big competitor. We're really competing with Android.
    06-02-2014 06:37 PM
  16. d_abbatelli's Avatar
    Now I want to have macbook and iphone now... :(

    Macbook now can using phone calling, texting, continue typing an unfinished email,... from iphone/ipad.
    Technically... If you're working on macbook and need an iphone/ipad feature, you just use it on macbook!!!
    You don't even need to connect your iphone/ipad to macbook via USB cable...
    OSX now have an Aero-like UI and Widget support. Those features that windows used to have...
    Messenger on OSX now support all skype-like features and even more...

    Meanwhile, my Lumia520 can't do anything with my Surface pro 2...
    And Windows8.1 don't even have a Notification Center!
    Skype can't even show preview of sending photos and I can't even make a group call on WP8.1 !!!!!!!!!

    Microsoft are too slow again!
    This.

    I'm sorry, but this is what I would call the "three screens" vision. iPhone, iPad, Mac perfectly integrated.
    Meanwhile, top of the integration reached by WP is what... Project your screen?
    Sorry, but while MS announces, Apple delivers...
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    06-02-2014 08:22 PM
  17. SwimSwim's Avatar
    Oh my bad, I misread that. I liked the new messaging app, the actionable notifications, the ability to listen to voice messages by just placing the phone on your ear(I guess it's still part of the first 2 points), the integration with MAC is amazing...
    I saw many similarities with the current Messaging app on WP8.1 and the new Messaging app on iOS 8. Only real new features I see are the new photos flyover thingy and the raising to the ear to listen to voice messages.

    As for the Mac integration: While I agree it's awesome, hasn't this been all but confirmed to be coming with Windows 9/Threshold in 2015? Same with actionable notifications (they were rumored for WP 8.1, but weren't completed in time for release). April 2015, for that matter, so only a few months after iOS 8 goes live. Yes, I realize a few months is eons in the tech world, but not too bad either.

    So yeah, I agree that iOS 8 adds some cool new features, but I wouldn't say WP8.1 or Windows 8.1 are obsolete. Missing a feature or two? Definitely. Is it nearly as bad as it was prior to WP8.1? Far from it. Especially when one takes into account that iOS 8 takes many pointers from Android and WP8.1, meaning Apple has reached a point where they're no longer innovators: They're merely playing catch-up.
    06-02-2014 08:25 PM
  18. MyNL822's Avatar
    I like the actionable notifications. I would say I want it for windows phone, but then all the fanboys would argue with me about how I don't need it because we don't need things from other devices. (I do need it). Btw, iPhone 4 got dropped now, not supported for IOS 8.
    06-02-2014 08:29 PM
  19. SwimSwim's Avatar
    Yea that...and they added an always on feature for Siri, just say hey Siri and she listens just like Google now
    Only when plugged in. Useful, yes, but not a major game changer. Also: Always listening Google Now is only on certain Android handsets with compatible hardware. I believe that Joe Belfiore even said they hoped to bring this always-listening functionality to compatible-chipsets in a future OS update.
    06-02-2014 08:29 PM
  20. bilzkh's Avatar
    iOS 8 is impressive, the ball is in Microsoft's court, are they obsessively serious about Windows Phone? With Nutella in charge, I'm not so sure, but we'll have to wait and see. Given that Myerson is in charge, it's possible that Threshold will bring in a lot of "bleeding edge" features to the Microsoft mobile landscape, especially if rumours around Goldfinger are of any indication.
    Iki Taba likes this.
    06-02-2014 08:31 PM
  21. SwimSwim's Avatar
    Its sad that they're just now getting predictive text, but I guess better severely late than never.
    You're in the Microsoft encampment: You should be more than used to this by now. ;P
    06-02-2014 08:32 PM
  22. Iki Taba's Avatar
    iOS 8 is impressive, the ball is in Microsoft's court, are they obsessively serious about Windows Phone? With Nutella in charge, I'm not so sure, but we'll have to wait and see. Given that Myerson is in charge, it's possible that Threshold will bring in a lot of "bleeding edge" features to the Microsoft mobile landscape, especially if rumours around Goldfinger are of any indication.
    LOL Nutella, now I'm gonna finally remember his name.
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    06-02-2014 08:35 PM
  23. squire777's Avatar
    The chicken littles are out... I guess another company must have released something new.
    06-02-2014 08:37 PM
  24. SwimSwim's Avatar
    iOS 8 is impressive, the ball is in Microsoft's court, are they obsessively serious about Windows Phone? With Nutella in charge, I'm not so sure, but we'll have to wait and see. Given that Myerson is in charge, it's possible that Threshold will bring in a lot of "bleeding edge" features to the Microsoft mobile landscape, especially if rumours around Goldfinger are of any indication.
    And I think that's the plan. One must keep in mind that several features announced in iOS 8 today were in early builds of 8.1, and a few even made it as far as the SDK before they officially announced 8.1 and had to cut a few features due to time constraints.

    I hope they'll come with GDR updates, and they'll definitely be ready by the next major OS update "Threshold" in 2015. I know it's painful to wait, but Microsoft is finally getting things together and gaining momentum. They're on their toes now more than ever before.
    Blacklac and Mahdi Ghiasi like this.
    06-02-2014 08:42 PM
  25. TaichiSurface's Avatar
    iOS does indeed take lots of hints from WP8.1...like incorporating Shazam into Siri, Swiftkey, Swype is also going to be available in iOS 8 etc....i'm sure there are a lot more. WP8.1 is a great effort by MS but Apple reacts really fast...Hopefully MS will be able to bring new stuff with Update 1, 2 etc.
    06-02-2014 11:49 PM
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