01-04-2015 02:50 AM
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  1. daveb673's Avatar
    How can anyone be jealous of an iPhone. The interface is so.... Windows 3.1 like, what with everything being an icon on the desktop, so to speak. No live tiles, no info at a glance. You have to launch the app to get information.
    Live tiles are so much better. I just can't get past the UI on other platforms. No jealousy here, that's for sure.
    That was my perception after using an iPhone 4S for a while. It did work very well, but seemed like a high-powered Palm Pilot or Tungsten T3. True, if you can think of it, there's probably an app for it in the App Store, but I really wanted to see something more like what WM6.5 provided on the "home" screen and Office compatibility.
    I started with a Handspring Visor Prism in 2002, then an AT&T Tilt 8925 in 2008. Briefly tried a Samsung Captivate Glide (I like real keyboards) but didn't care for Quickoffice or the possibility of malware (perceived anyway), and then went to the 4S for about 2 years. Added a NUU bluetooth keyboard. Upgraded to a 5S for a bit, then went all the way back to an AT&T Tilt2. True, the 5S included Pages and Numbers (Word and Excel type apps), but it felt like some more of the same with a nice fingerprint scanner (it did make the upgrade painless). I didn't care for using Numbers on the iPhone (seems a bit clunky, not as much formula power), and you had to have the latest version of Numbers for Mac (not even Excel for Mac) or it wouldn't sync spreadsheets. Grrrr.
    I wanted to try WP for some time (I'm a ways from upgrade eligible) so I bought a used HTC Titan 2 and found I like the interface. Thanks to the Windows Central Forums, I updated it to WP7.8. The ability to resize the tiles and move things around is far better in my opinion than just seeing a list of apps. Seeing the time, date, email and text counts, and the next calendar appt on the lock screen is useful to me as well. iOS doesn't provide all of that as easily. Now if we could just customize the WP lock screen a little more... (I really haven't looked yet) My main complaint with WP is I can't sync everything to the computer like with WM6.5. Strikes me as odd that MS would drop that.

    True, iPhones seem to be a bit of a status symbol, but they also work well. I too think (just my opinion; keep your arrows in the quiver) they are more for the mainstream user (such as my wife) and not so much for business. I use my phone nearly as a portable computer, editing documents on it routinely and computing various values in spreadsheets. Hence the reason I keep looking for keyboards. I also rely on the calendar quite a bit for reminders and such. Palm and WM6.5 were quite to my liking; it took some doing for me to get the same utility from iOS. Lollipop might provide a good home screen; I'll wait to find out.

    My wife has an iPhone 6+. I answered a call for her today and thought I was holding an iPad to my head. It's pretty big! But, she likes it because the screen is bigger and easier to read. That's also what I like about the Titan2 over the Tilt2. Too bad the Titan 2 won't get WP10.

    What I find a bit surprising is how the iPhone took so much marketshare. As I recall, WM6 was quite popular back in the day, (after Palm) as were Blackberries. Apple was originally making personal music players. Good marketing move on Apple's part. Perhaps the intended product markets are not the same...or the same size?

    As was (kind of) stated a few times already--Find the phone you like. If it's not what everyone else has, so what? In six months, no one will notice. It needs to work for you.

    Windows 10 has the advantage that it comes on every platform from Microsoft and that makes it the biggest platform for apps that there is. This is for developers a reason to develop apps because they can reach more people than on any other platform out there without making different apps for each platform.
    I want to now if they will announce wp 10 to on January 21 and tell when it comes to the current devices.
    Windows 10 is also one of the reasons why my next game console will be the xbox one.
    Didn't realize Win10 was going to form the Windows collective. Interesting. I'm running the Tech Preview of Win 10 right now, and so far I like it. Seems like a thoughtful blend of Win8 and Win7 visually (i.e. the Start Menu is there). Don't know if it supports touch screen, but I suspect it does (my laptop doesn't have that). And it will run in Parallels 8 for Mac, despite info out on the Internet that it doesn't. And I've installed Zune w/o problems, may also try Office 2010.

    For those looking for a flagship WP device, by chance did you look at the HTC One (M8) for Windows? Or was that what you had in mind? If Win 10 fixes Word and Excel (so we can cut/copy/paste/etc), I might get one.
    (Sorry about the LONG post)
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    01-03-2015 09:55 PM
  2. tgp's Avatar
    The NFL adopted the Surface because Microsoft paid them to do so
    Plus the NFL calls them iPads.
    01-03-2015 10:00 PM
  3. Visa Declined's Avatar
    I never said it was a massive change. I said the iPad is being phased out.
    I understand that's what you're saying, and all I have been asking for is some insight as to why you believe this.

    You say that the airline and NFL deals are an indicator that the iPad is losing out in the enterprise/corporate sector to the Surface. I don't think the deals that Microsoft made with those companies completely validate your claim. The Surface is finding great success now, but lets be realistic here and not jump the gun.

    I would personally love to see the Surface kicking the iPad's ****, especially since Tim Cook made fun of the Surface on stage at WWDC, he deserves to eat some crow over that.

    You go out of your way to argue with me at every turn. Reply if you want, I couldn't give a fat baby's azz. I'm out.
    This is unfortunate, and quite honestly, an unexpected reaction from you.
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    01-03-2015 10:52 PM
  4. tortex73's Avatar
    For those looking for a flagship WP device, by chance did you look at the HTC One (M8) for Windows? Or was that what you had in mind? If Win 10 fixes Word and Excel (so we can cut/copy/paste/etc), I might get one.
    (Sorry about the LONG post)
    I'm not a fan of the physical design of the M8. I had the android one for a couple days, but returned it because I didn't like how tall it was and how much bezel it had. I really love Nokia's design and build quality, and would really like to have a flagship Lumia. The 830 was a gorgeous phone but Nokia cut the wrong corners and it felt incredibly under powered. I really like the 930, but unfortunately it's not compatible with AT&T's LTE network so it'll only get HSPA+, which is a deal breaker for me. Since I have never owned a windows phone before (aside from my very brief stint with the 830), I want my first WP experience to be a proper one, with a no compromise device. Hopefully Microsoft will release one this year.
    01-03-2015 11:33 PM
  5. petersun21's Avatar
    I have an unlocked 64GB iPhone 6 plus and an unlocked AT&T 1520. I am still debating which one to sell. I have used HTC titan, Lumia 920, Lumia 1020, Lumia Icon, Lumia 1520. The only windows phone I missed is the 1020.

    First of all, I cannot tolerate the resuming screen. If there is an app open, unlock your phone will take you an resuming screen. I assume that Microsoft has heard of the problem a lot. Microsoft's inability to fix it says a lot about the platform.

    Second, the camera speed. It is unbearable. It takes too long to take a picture and it takes too long to load a picture after taking it/

    Third, picture quality is not as good as iPhone 6 plus. I was telling my daughter about how good cameras on lumia phones. My daughter challenged me to take a picture of a plant under a table lamp. iPhone picture is just like me looking at the plant. It cannot be said about lumia 1520.

    Forth, home screen or start screen. WP start screen is so crowded. It does not look pretty.

    Fifth, the app gap. I use google voice a lot. It is not available on wp. If Microsoft apps are better on other platforms than on windows phone.

    Music control. how simple it is to control music playing on an iPhone. You have to restart music app to gain control back..

    If anyone says that iPhone design is ugly, he/she is living in another world
    01-04-2015 02:11 AM
  6. tortex73's Avatar
    I have an unlocked 64GB iPhone 6 plus and an unlocked AT&T 1520. I am still debating which one to sell. I have used HTC titan, Lumia 920, Lumia 1020, Lumia Icon, Lumia 1520. The only windows phone I missed is the 1020.

    First of all, I cannot tolerate the resuming screen. If there is an app open, unlock your phone will take you an resuming screen. I assume that Microsoft has heard of the problem a lot. Microsoft's inability to fix it says a lot about the platform.

    Second, the camera speed. It is unbearable. It takes too long to take a picture and it takes too long to load a picture after taking it/

    Third, picture quality is not as good as iPhone 6 plus. I was telling my daughter about how good cameras on lumia phones. My daughter challenged me to take a picture of a plant under a table lamp. iPhone picture is just like me looking at the plant. It cannot be said about lumia 1520.

    Forth, home screen or start screen. WP start screen is so crowded. It does not look pretty.

    Fifth, the app gap. I use google voice a lot. It is not available on wp. If Microsoft apps are better on other platforms than on windows phone.

    Music control. how simple it is to control music playing on an iPhone. You have to restart music app to gain control back..

    If anyone says that iPhone design is ugly, he/she is living in another world
    I'd keep the iPhone, without a doubt. It's an amazing phone. People love to talk crap about the iPhone and iOS, but I agree with you that they must be living in another word. And this is coming from an Android user.
    techiez and etad putta like this.
    01-04-2015 02:26 AM
  7. snowmutt's Avatar
    This thread has run it's course. I do think most of the posts have been kept fairly civil, and I thank everyone for that. But there are plenty of "iOS VS. WP" threads, and I am sure we will have others. We are just repeating ourselves on this one right now.

    I will say I enjoyed the back and forth on this thread.
    01-04-2015 02:50 AM
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